{"id":113747,"date":"2025-11-24T19:53:13","date_gmt":"2025-11-25T02:53:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=113747"},"modified":"2025-11-25T11:43:12","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T18:43:12","slug":"on-my-apparently-deep-dislike-of-the-beatles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/11\/on-my-apparently-deep-dislike-of-the-beatles.html","title":{"rendered":"On my apparently deep dislike of the Beatles"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_113753\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-113753\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/11\/NippertStadium.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-113753\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/11\/NippertStadium.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"448\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-113753\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Covered with glory: Nippert Stadium at the University of Cincinnati (Wikimedia Commons public domain photo)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here is a quartet of follow-up articles regarding the topic of yesterday\u2019s blog entry, which was entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/11\/bigots-in-the-bleachers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cBigots in the Bleachers\u201d<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Deseret News<\/em>: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/sports\/2025\/11\/24\/cincinnati-athletic-director-apologizes-byu-offensive-chants-2025\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cCincinnati athletic director apologizes for profane chants directed toward BYU: The chants took place this past weekend during BYU football\u2019s visit to Cincinnati\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><em>Deseret News<\/em>: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/opinion\/2025\/11\/24\/byu-explicit-chants\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cPerspective: What more can universities do to prevent explicit chants at BYU games? Lessons from previous instances to date could help other universities ward off this derogatory pattern\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><em>Cincinnati Enquirer<\/em>: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cincinnati.com\/story\/sports\/college\/university-of-cincinnati\/2025\/11\/24\/will-big-12-fine-uc-after-anti-mormon-chant-at-byu-football-game\/87445784007\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWill UC be fined? AD apologizes after anti-Mormon chant at BYU game\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 (compare similar article in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/sports\/ncaaf\/big12\/2025\/11\/24\/cincinnati-apologizes-to-byu-cougars-football-fans-for-anti-mormon-chant-potential-big-12-fine\/87449304007\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>USA Today<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>WCPO: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wcpo.com\/sports\/college-sports\/university-of-cincinnati-sports\/viral-videos-show-university-of-cincinnati-students-anti-mormon-chants-during-byu-game\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cUniversity of Cincinnati AD apologizes for anti-Mormon chants during BYU game\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure id=\"attachment_113750\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-113750\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/11\/The_Beatles_performing_at_The_Ed_Sullivan_Show_cropped_2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-113750\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/11\/The_Beatles_performing_at_The_Ed_Sullivan_Show_cropped_2.jpg\" alt=\"They were really young.\" width=\"597\" height=\"407\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-113750\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Beatles, performing on \u201cThe Ed Sullivan Show\u201d on 9 February 1964. (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I\u2019ve just learned from a pair of anonymous critics online that I hate, despise, condemn, and fear the Beatles. \u00a0Or, at least, that, as a Latter-day Saint, I <em>should<\/em> hate, despise, condemn and fear the Beatles. \u00a0Or, anyhow, something along those lines. \u00a0(We\u2019re not exactly talking about Immanuel Kant here, where precise understanding of every subtle nuance is vitally important.)<\/p>\n<p>My righteous disdain for the Beatles comes as stunning news to me. \u00a0I\u2019ve been a really enthusiastic Beatles fan since first seeing them in their second appearance on <em>The Ed Sullivan Show<\/em>. \u00a0That was on 16 February 1964. \u00a0(Yes, I\u2019m that old.) \u00a0I had somehow missed their first appearance, on 9 February 1964, but I made absolutely sure that I caught their third, which had been taped on 9 February for broadcast on 23 February. \u00a0My favorite of the four was, and remained, John Lennon.<\/p>\n<p>After that, I bought their albums, bought books of their songs, got a guitar (the first of several) and learned to play their music, and waited impatiently for each new release. \u00a0I was heartsick when they broke up in 1969-1970, and I still remember receiving the horrifying news of John Lennon\u2019s death (while I was living in Egypt in 1980). \u00a0I took it rather personally. \u00a0I felt as if my youth had been, to some degree, anyway, torn from me.<\/p>\n<p>One of my regrets is that I never saw the Beatles live, in person. \u00a0I saw The Rolling Stones and the Byrds and Cream and B. B. King and Iron Butterfly and Neal Young and others, but, somehow, never the Beatles. \u00a0Here\u2019s some slight compensation: \u00a0Several years ago, visiting with my nephew in Southern California, I met a member of his ward who, at that time anyway, was playing with a Beatles tribute band at one of the major hotels in Las Vegas. \u00a0We were driving back to Utah in a few days, and he comped us some tickets for his show there. \u00a0It was, note for note and costume change for costume change, extraordinarily true to the real thing through all of the Beatles\u2019 history \u2014 and, if I may say so myself, I know the songs quite well. \u00a0So I thought that maybe I hadn\u2019t altogether missed out, after all.<\/p>\n<p>I regard the Beatles as incomparably the greatest rock group of all time, and I\u2019m happy to report that I\u2019ve managed to pass that judgment on to my second generation. \u00a0In fact, I\u2019m told that my closest resident Third Generation Unit or 3GU (identity withheld to make hostile targeting more difficult) has apparently been asking for Beatles songs this very week, and has been listening to and singing along with them, while riding in a 3GU car booster seat.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s amazing, though, what powerful insights into oneself one can gain from anonymous posters online.<\/p>\n<p>And, while I\u2019m on the subject, I received this in my inbox today, from the <em>New York Times<\/em>: \u00a0\u201cMeet The Beatles, again,\u201d by Ben Sisario.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Good morning. Today, a music reporter revisits the documentary that made him fall in love the Beatles, ahead of the film\u2019s 30th-anniversary rerelease.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I share the first four paragraphs:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In 1987, when I was a budding teenage rock snob, the checkout lane at my local supermarket was crowded with magazines commemorating the Beatles album \u201cSgt. Pepper\u2019s Lonely Hearts Club Band,\u201d still hyped after 20 years. If I didn\u2019t groan, I at least rolled my eyes.<\/p>\n<p>To this Gen X kid, few things were less cool than the Beatles, the musical embodiment of the cultural dominance of my parents\u2019 boomer generation. I preferred the Pixies, Nirvana and whatever else caught my eye on MTV\u2019s \u201c120 Minutes\u201d (though Kurt Cobain\u2019s adoration of John Lennon couldn\u2019t be ignored).<\/p>\n<p>Now I am a Fab Four obsessive, consulting a shelf of Beatles-related reference books while I listen to boxed sets of outtakes.<\/p>\n<p>The turning point for me was \u201cThe Beatles Anthology,\u201d an authorized documentary that was shown over three nights in November 1995. It <a class=\"css-sdwaa1 decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/nl.nytimes.com\/f\/newsletter\/1Po_OGt3VUZukJtin0m4Iw~~\/AAAAARA~\/7gkmoY9ISiT3AozNrahzBrDy7TglUIfsGaLRbKAZEHSSeRboIPCM3OIUwYffH1UVJFIDPTwCQykkK47OKbSUWOt6i9L2iWpsA3hDeS0o8W7SeXu3i84_c8UH3WhOkyVRXbJYU_v7YQ53Diy6TciRMQRx6kmU2929wfx22SEyC_NHwvqUywIVq17o-QFlHavb40nZaISspRc1PHh62eVFEA~~\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">returns to Disney+ this week, in an expanded and technologically sweetened form<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m looking forward to it. \u00a0And, oddly, I\u2019m looking forward to it without even the slightest twinge of guilt.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_37177\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37177\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/Timpanogos.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-37177\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/Timpanogos.jpg\" alt=\"Moulton Timpanogos photo\" width=\"596\" height=\"335\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-37177\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">There are still times when the mountains here take my breath away. Tyler Moulton took this photograph of Mount Timpanogos from the parking lot of a burger joint a few years ago, using his cell phone. I use it on this blog with his permission. Mount Timpanogos overlooks Orem, the town in which I live and in which my friend\u2019s OBE occurred.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I posted <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/11\/bigots-in-the-bleachers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">a brief note<\/a> yesterday about a close friend\u2019s recounting of a recent out-of-body experience. \u00a0I failed to include something that he said, though, that I found quite interesting: \u00a0As he was observing himself on the floor at Costco and then watching the eventually successful effort to revive him, he said that the thought occurred to him, \u201cI\u2019m dying, and it\u2019s really not all that bad!\u201d \u00a0Then, he said, he suddenly found himself back <em>in<\/em> himself, no longer watching things from slightly above and behind.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_41808\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-41808\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/05\/697px-St_Pauls_Cathedral_Choir_looking_east_London_UK_-_Diliff.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-41808\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/05\/697px-St_Pauls_Cathedral_Choir_looking_east_London_UK_-_Diliff.jpg\" alt=\"Iliff school of theology, sort of\" width=\"597\" height=\"658\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-41808\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Inside St. Paul\u2019s Cathedral, in London, looking from the choir toward the high altar.<br>The empty churches of the Anglican communion in England offer a glimpse of the possible (likely?) future of mainstream Protestantism in America if it isn\u2019t reinvigorated. 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License: CC-BY-SA 3.0)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This brief column is worthy of a thoughtful read: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtontimes.com\/news\/2025\/nov\/23\/decline-religion-affects-everything\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe decline of religion affects everything:\u00a0Faith is the glue that holds us together\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Here is a quartet of follow-up articles regarding the topic of yesterday\u2019s blog entry, which was entitled \u201cBigots in the Bleachers\u201d: Deseret News: \u00a0\u201cCincinnati athletic director apologizes for profane chants directed toward BYU: The chants took place this past weekend during BYU football\u2019s visit to Cincinnati\u201d Deseret News: \u00a0\u201cPerspective: What more can universities do [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":113750,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[7293,1149,18116,39425,2905,788],"class_list":["post-113747","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-beatles","tag-byu","tag-chant","tag-cincinnati","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>On my apparently deep dislike of the Beatles<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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