{"id":113801,"date":"2025-11-28T08:59:44","date_gmt":"2025-11-28T15:59:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=113801"},"modified":"2025-11-28T12:03:50","modified_gmt":"2025-11-28T19:03:50","slug":"the-beatles-once-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/11\/the-beatles-once-again.html","title":{"rendered":"The Beatles, once again"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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The album cover for \u201cSgt. Pepper\u2019s Lonely Hearts Club Band,\u201d which I own. (Fair use, I hope)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

A week or so ago, an intrepid critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> announced to a tough audience of similarly hostile critics that members of that Church hate and condemn the Beatles or, anyway, should<\/em> hate and condemn them. \u00a0Inspired by his research, I expressed my own disdain for the Beatles, and my righteous indignation against them, in a post that was rather cryptically titled \u201cOn my apparently deep dislike of the Beatles.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 I\u2019ve decided, though, that I need to examine the matter a bit more fully.<\/p>\n

The first exhibit in this particular critic\u2019s case that Latter-day Saints abhor, or should abhor, the Beatles comes from a passage in a General Conference address from President Thomas S. Monson \u2014 who was, yes, the President of the Church at the time \u2014 in which President Monson \u201ccriticized\u201d their song \u201cAll You Need Is Love.\u201d<\/p>\n

You may or may not have the lyrics to that song at the tip of your tongue, so I\u2019ll post them here:<\/p>\n

\n
Love, love, love
Love, love, love
Love, love, love<\/div>\n
There\u2019s nothing you can do that can\u2019t be done
Nothing you can sing that can\u2019t be sung
Nothing you can say, but you can learn
How to play the game
It\u2019s easy<\/div>\n
Nothing you can make that can\u2019t be made
No one you can save that can\u2019t be saved
Nothing you can do, but you can learn
How to be you in time
It\u2019s easy<\/div>\n
All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need<\/div>\n
Love, love, love
Love, love, love
Love, love, love<\/div>\n
All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need<\/div>\n
Nothing you can know that isn\u2019t known
Nothing you can see that isn\u2019t shown
There\u2019s nowhere you can be that isn\u2019t where
You\u2019re meant to be
It\u2019s easy<\/div>\n
All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need<\/div>\n
All you need is love (all together now!)
All you need is love (everybody!)
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need<\/div>\n
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)<\/div>\n
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)<\/div>\n
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)
(Love is all you need)
Love is all you need (love is all you need)<\/div>\n
Yesterday (love is all you need)
Oh (love is all you need)
(Love is all you need)
(Love is all you need)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And you may or may not recall President Monson\u2019s fierce denunciation of both \u201cAll You Need is Love\u201d and the Beatles. \u00a0So I\u2019ll provide it for you:<\/p>\n

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I recently read in the Wall Street Journal<\/em> an article by Jonathan Sacks, Britain\u2019s chief rabbi. Among other things, he writes: \u201cIn virtually every Western society in the 1960s there was a moral revolution, an abandonment of its entire traditional ethic of self-restraint. All you need, sang the Beatles, is love. The Judeo-Christian moral code was jettisoned. In its place came [the adage]: [Do] whatever works for you.<\/em> The Ten Commandments were rewritten as the Ten Creative Suggestions.\u201d<\/p>\n

Rabbi Sacks goes on to lament:<\/p>\n

\u201cWe have been spending our moral capital with the same reckless abandon that we have been spending our financial capital.\u00a0\u2026<\/p>\n

\u201cThere are large parts of [the world] where religion is a thing of the past and there is no counter-voice to the culture of buy it, spend it, wear it, flaunt it, because you\u2019re worth it. The message is that morality is pass\u00e9, conscience is for wimps, and the single overriding command is \u2018Thou shalt not be found out.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The passage just quoted comes from an address that President Monson delivered at the October 2011 semiannual General Conference of the Church, under the title of \u201cStand in Holy Places.\u201d<\/a><\/div>\n
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You will, I think, notice immediately that President Monson\u2019s denunciation of the Beatles isn\u2019t really very fierce at all, that it isn\u2019t really much of a denunciation, that it isn\u2019t exactly a blanket condemnation of the Beatles (but is only a criticism of an idea contained in a single song of theirs), and, perhaps most saliently, that it isn\u2019t even in President Monson\u2019s own words: \u00a0Instead, it\u2019s a quotation from Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, and specifically from an article of his entitled \u201cReversing the Decay of London Undone\u201d that was published in the Wall Street Journal<\/em> for 20 August 2011.<\/p>\n

So exactly who was Jonathan Sacks? \u00a0Now, I realize that, for some secularist critics like the fellow who raised this issue and like those who received it with agreement and even, in at least one or two cases, with enthusiasm, it\u2019s a settled assumption that the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are closed-minded frontier yokels, fanatics, and rubes who would be expected<\/em> to dislike the Beatles and, for that matter, anything else that\u2019s even slightly inconsistent with their Ozzie-and-Harriet and Smallville-style provincialism. \u00a0But Jonathan Sacks doesn\u2019t seem to have been that sort of a person.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Jonathan Sacks (1948-2020)<\/a> had earned a bachelor\u2019s degree and a a first-class honours master\u2019s degree in philosophy at the University of Cambridge and then, following postgraduate work at New College, Oxford, and King\u2019s College, London, earned a Ph.D. from the University of London. \u00a0Additionally, after studies at the London School of Jewish Studies and London\u2019s Etz Chaim Yeshiva he qualified for rabbinic ordination. \u00a0He also received a doctorate that was bestowed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.<\/p>\n

At the time of his article in the Wall Street Journal, <\/em>Dr. Sacks\u00a0was the chief rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the British Commonwealth. \u00a0After retiring as chief rabbi, he served as Ingeborg and Ira Rennert Global Distinguished Professor of Judaic Thought at New York University, as Kressel and Ephrat Family University Professor of Jewish Thought at Yeshiva University, and as Professor of Law, Ethics, and the Bible at King\u2019s College London. \u00a0The author of more than forty books, he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 2005 and, in 2009, having been made a life peer, he took a seat in the British House of Lords as Baron Sacks of Aldgate.<\/p>\n

Not, I would argue, your typical, run-of-the-mill backwoods bumpkin.<\/p>\n

Now let\u2019s look very cursorily at what Rabbi Dr. Sacks actually said, and what President Monson quoted from him. \u00a0Is love really all you need? \u00a0It\u2019s enormously important, yes. \u00a0No question about that. \u00a0But might self-discipline, responsibility, fidelity, common sense, good judgment, altruism, honesty, self-sacrifice, and several other such values contribute at least a little smidgin to individual and societal flourishing and happiness?<\/p>\n

President Monson\u2019s quotation from Rabbi Sacks seems to me a pretty weak reed upon which to base a claim that Latter-day Saints condemn, or should condemn, the Beatles in toto<\/em>.<\/p>\n

A \"bed-in\". sdfkskfjofjoifsoifs<\/a>
John Lennon and Yoko Ono in bed at the Hilton Hotel in Amsterdam in 1969 (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Fortunately, though, our critic has a much more damning quote that he can deploy. \u00a0It comes from remarks that Elder David B. Haight, then of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, delivered to the Annual Meeting of the Utah Association of Women on 24 April 1981. \u00a0Although I expect that many of you have that particular talk committed to memory and that at least some of you may have actually had it bound with your copy of the scriptures, I\u2019ll supply the relevant passage to you. \u00a0In his speech to the assembled women, Elder Haight said that<\/p>\n

Many of today\u2019s problems can be traced to the music of the Beatles in the early 1960s. I witnessed the early developing of protests on college campuses, protests against the Vietnam War, with protestors using Beatle-type music to express their feelings against our government, against our military, and against authority in general.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I hope that it won\u2019t shock you to learn that I don\u2019t entirely share Elder Haight\u2019s view. \u00a0However, I take his point, and I take it seriously. \u00a0The moral influence of the Beatles wasn\u2019t entirely positive. \u00a0Their prominent experimentation with psychedelic and other drugs, for example, had a decidedly negative impact. \u00a0The \u201cYouth Rebellion\u201d of the 1960s, in which they were extraordinarily prominent participants and role models, wasn\u2019t an unambiguous step forward for Western Civilization. \u00a0And, to the extent that rock culture (along with the Pill and a host of other things) contributed to a loosening of standards of sexual morality, it\u2019s scarcely surprising that Church leaders might occasionally have been unenthusiastic about it.<\/p>\n

But Elder Haight\u2019s nearly half-century old comment to a Utah women\u2019s group does indeed represent a pretty strong (albeit rather brief and apparently not-often-repeated) negative judgment on the influence of the Beatles.<\/p>\n

And here is how, as expressed by second critic at the same online site to which I\u2019ve been referring, the Latter-day Saints are to be condemned on the basis of President Monson\u2019s and Elder Haight\u2019s remarks:<\/p>\n

We Latter-day Saints, so the second critic contends, claim to \u00a0have actual prophets like Isaiah and Paul walking the earth today. Their voices are literally the voice of God himself on this earth. \u00a0And David B. Haight was one of them. \u00a0Thus, if Elder Haight declares the Beatles to be at the root of many if not most of the ills of society, it\u2019s no different than if God himself had come down in a cloud of glory and thundered that forth. \u00a0And if we don\u2019t accept it as the authoritative Word of God to us, essentially as scripture, that simply demonstrates that we really don\u2019t believe our purported \u201cprophets\u201d to really be prophets. \u00a0We don\u2019t take them seriously.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m sometimes astonished, truthfully, by how many of our ex-LDS critics, including the secularizing ones, appear to be failed fundamentalists.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t believe that I ever belonged to a church in which even our canonized scripture was held to be inerrant, let alone that modern apostles enjoy inerrancy in every comment they utter. \u00a0(Such infallibility isn\u2019t even ascribed to Catholic popes<\/em>, who are thought to be infallible only when speaking ex cathedra <\/em>on matters of faith or morals.) \u00a0Nor do I believe that I ever belonged to a church in which it was taught that every isolated remark of every individual ordained apostle is to be received as binding scripture. \u00a0Apparently, though, these critics did.<\/p>\n

Do I take what individual apostles say very seriously? \u00a0Indeed, I do. \u00a0And I certainly agree that the products of popular culture are not without (sometimes troubling) moral implications. \u00a0There are some television shows and films and songs and art works that are simply incompatible with a seriously Latter-day Saint moral framework. \u00a0(And I\u2019m not referring here only to sexual morality, although that\u2019s a really obvious area of concern.) \u00a0We need to be discerning and selective in our consumption of what our current society offers to us. \u00a0In that sense, I have no problem at all with what Rabbi Sacks said, as quoted by President Monson. \u00a0And I take Elder Haight\u2019s reservation about the Beatles as worthy of serious consideration. \u00a0Great though they were, John, Paul, George, and Ringo aren\u2019t and never were beyond criticism.<\/p>\n

Posted from Park City, Utah<\/p>\n

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