{"id":21911,"date":"2015-07-04T01:47:38","date_gmt":"2015-07-04T07:47:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=21911"},"modified":"2015-07-04T01:47:38","modified_gmt":"2015-07-04T07:47:38","slug":"personal-encounters-with-elder-packer-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2015\/07\/personal-encounters-with-elder-packer-part-1.html","title":{"rendered":"Personal encounters with Elder Packer (Part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_21912\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21912\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/07\/Zurich_LDS_Church_stake_center.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-21912\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/07\/Zurich_LDS_Church_stake_center-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Where I translated for Elder Packer\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21912\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Z\u00fcrich stake center<br>(Click to enlarge. Click again to enlarge further.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The first time I met Boyd K. Packer was sometime in the first part of 1974, when he came to Z\u00fcrich for a stake conference. \u00a0He had been an apostle for about four years by that point.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Upon arrival, he took a tour of the mission home at Pilatusstrasse 11.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I had a fairly large basement office. \u00a0On one wall, it had a bulletin board. \u00a0 I was standing in the room across a large table from that bulletin board when he came in to look around. \u00a0Suddenly, I recalled that, in the lower right corner of\u00a0the bulletin board, I had posted not only a portrait of Jesus but a small photograph of the then-reigning pope, Paul VI. \u00a0I decided, at that very moment, that it would be advisable\u00a0to move around the room and place myself in front of that photograph.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But I wasn\u2019t fast enough.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He looked at the bulletin board. \u00a0He walked closer to it. \u00a0He bent over and looked right at the photograph of Pope Paul VI. \u00a0Then he turned around and said, very quietly, \u201cI bet you wish you\u2019d taken that down yesterday, don\u2019t you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That evening, the mission home staff had dinner with Elder Packer\u00a0along with <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Edwin_Q._Cannon\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">my mission president <\/a>and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Janath_R._Cannon\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his wife<\/a> in their living quarters.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>While the dinner was still being prepared, we sat in the living room and spoke with him. \u00a0When the president came out to tell us that dinner was ready, he asked\u00a0Elder Packer, \u201cAre you getting to know the elders?\u201d \u00a0\u201cI know them better than they think I do,\u201d Elder Packer responded.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>During the meal,\u00a0sitting at the table, my mission president, who was extremely kind and quite funny, made a crack about my precociously receding hairline. \u00a0I don\u2019t remember what it was, but it didn\u2019t hurt my feelings. \u00a0I\u2019m not very sensitive on this issue. \u00a0We all laughed, and then I realized that Elder Packer <em>wasn\u2019t<\/em> laughing. \u00a0We all calmed down, and then he said, very quietly, \u201cWhen <em>I<\/em> was a mission president, we didn\u2019t <em>permit<\/em> humor at the expense of the missionaries.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It was, frankly, a bit embarrassing. \u00a0I hadn\u2019t been embarrassed by the joke, but I was a bit embarrassed for my mission president.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Years later, though, I either read or heard about an interview with Elder Packer in which, asked about his childhood and what he had wanted to be when he grew up, he replied that he had wanted to be <em>good<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I believe it, and I believe that that\u2019s a key to understanding him. \u00a0He was really serious about being <em>good<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>For stake conference that weekend, I was assigned to translate\u00a0all of the German talks into English for Elder Packer. \u00a0(He had an earpiece, and I spoke into a microphone.) \u00a0I can\u2019t quite remember\u00a0how many sessions there were, but I think there was a Saturday session, followed by two Sunday sessions. \u00a0Anyway, it was exhausting. \u00a0I recall, toward the end, being so tired that I simply paraphrased rather than translated. \u00a0I\u2019ve had enormous respect for simultaneous translators ever since.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from San Diego, California<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 The first time I met Boyd K. 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