{"id":26759,"date":"2015-09-29T21:48:35","date_gmt":"2015-09-30T03:48:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=26759"},"modified":"2015-09-29T21:48:35","modified_gmt":"2015-09-30T03:48:35","slug":"the-mormon-modesty-wars-no-more-slut-shaming-please","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2015\/09\/the-mormon-modesty-wars-no-more-slut-shaming-please.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The Mormon modesty wars: No more &#8216;slut-shaming,&#8217; please&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26760\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26760\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Flickr_-_Bucajack_-_Hugh_Hefner_and_Playboy_Bunnies_-_TIFF_09.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-26760\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Flickr_-_Bucajack_-_Hugh_Hefner_and_Playboy_Bunnies_-_TIFF_09-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Hugh Hefner and Bunnies\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26760\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The man in the center here, Mr. Hugh Hefner, never received the memo explaining that how women dress has no impact on men. And yet, astoundingly, he\u2019s still managed to make a huge amount of money based on his mistaken notions.<br>(Wikimedia CC photo by Mark Dunne; click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Okay. \u00a0I get the point. \u00a0And I\u2019m not altogether unsympathetic:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/janariess.religionnews.com\/2015\/09\/28\/the-mormon-modesty-wars-are-we-nearing-the-end-of-the-slut-shaming-epidemic\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/janariess.religionnews.com\/2015\/09\/28\/the-mormon-modesty-wars-are-we-nearing-the-end-of-the-slut-shaming-epidemic\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I confess that I haven\u2019t noticed any supposed \u201cepidemic\u201d of \u201cslut-shaming\u201d in <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormonism<\/a>. \u00a0However, I pay little or no attention to the Oscars, the Grammys, the Emmys, <em>People Magazine<\/em>, the <em>National Enquirer<\/em>, and the Kardashians, and I don\u2019t read blogs that focus\u00a0on them. \u00a0So maybe I\u2019ve missed it.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That, though, isn\u2019t my major complaint here:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I think some of what Jana Riess says in this piece is profoundly \u2014 <em>profoundly<\/em> \u2014 unfair.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Elder Callister was absolutely <em>not<\/em> saying that women are completely responsible for the thoughts, behavior, and virtue of men.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He was, I think, simply recognizing the indisputable fact that men can be, and often are, affected by what women wear. \u00a0(If that\u2019s not true, it\u2019s difficult to see a lot of\u00a0sense in many \u201cmen\u2019s magazines,\u201d in much female fashion, in a great deal of advertising, and so forth. \u00a0\u201cSex sells,\u201d goes the familiar adage. \u00a0But what women wear makes no difference? \u00a0Seriously? \u00a0What on earth is <em>Cosmopolitan<\/em> about, in that case?)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Surely there\u2019s a very large and reasonable middle ground between the manifestly absurd claim that what women wear and how they behave has no impact whatever on men, on the one hand, and, on the other, the equally ridiculous notion \u2014 advanced by nobody of whom I\u2019m aware, including Elder Callister \u2014 that women bear complete responsibility for how men think and act.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Yes, males have agency, and they\u2019re\u00a0responsible for how they think and act. \u00a0But we humans interact with each other. \u00a0We affect each other. \u00a0And it\u2019s folly, and sometimes ideologically-<em>driven<\/em> folly, to pretend that we don\u2019t, or to fault those who point that we do.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m frankly impatient with transparently unjust and unreasonable accusations that, for instance, people who prudently suggest that intoxicated single women probably shouldn\u2019t walk down deserted urban alleys in rough neighborhoods at 2 AM are chauvinistically denying women the right to move about freely like men or are blaming rape victims for being assaulted.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The thief who stole the thousand-dollar bill that you left sitting overnight on the roof of your car is, indisputably, guilty of theft and morally responsible for his action. \u00a0But it\u2019s not unreasonable to suggest that leaving thousand-dollar bills out in public spaces overnight\u00a0isn\u2019t especially wise.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Come on. \u00a0This shouldn\u2019t be difficult or controversial.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Victor, New York<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Okay. \u00a0I get the point. \u00a0And I\u2019m not altogether unsympathetic: \u00a0 http:\/\/janariess.religionnews.com\/2015\/09\/28\/the-mormon-modesty-wars-are-we-nearing-the-end-of-the-slut-shaming-epidemic\/ \u00a0 I confess that I haven\u2019t noticed any supposed \u201cepidemic\u201d of \u201cslut-shaming\u201d in Mormonism. \u00a0However, I pay little or no attention to the Oscars, the Grammys, the Emmys, People Magazine, the National Enquirer, and the Kardashians, and I don\u2019t read blogs [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26759","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;The Mormon modesty wars: No more &#039;slut-shaming,&#039; 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