{"id":33020,"date":"2016-04-25T10:42:54","date_gmt":"2016-04-25T16:42:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=33020"},"modified":"2016-04-25T10:42:54","modified_gmt":"2016-04-25T16:42:54","slug":"did-you-ever-play-a-game-called-marco-polo-heres-another-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2016\/04\/did-you-ever-play-a-game-called-marco-polo-heres-another-one.html","title":{"rendered":"Did you ever play a game called &#8220;Marco Polo&#8221;?  Here&#8217;s another one."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_33021\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-33021\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/800px-Marco_Polo_traveling.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-33021\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-33021\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/800px-Marco_Polo_traveling.jpg\" alt=\"Marco Polo in a boat\" width=\"596\" height=\"374\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-33021\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A fourteenth-century illustration of Marco Polo traveling<br>(Wikimedia Commons)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t deny for a moment that there are major problems in the Islamic world today, and that a great deal of evil has been and is being committed by Muslims in the name of Islam.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t appreciate being told, as I routinely am in emails and elsewhere, that I\u2019m whitewashing the Islamic world, that I\u2019m defending ISIS, that I see no problem with Muslims beheading Christians, and so forth.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Such statements are either ignorant or they\u2019re lies. \u00a0I\u2019ve been denouncing Islamist violence very publicly, for years.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>What I do deny is that all Muslims are evil, that every Muslim wishes to kill Christians and establish a theocratic dictatorship, and that Islam, as such, is irredeemably evil and has never contributed anything of value to humanity. \u00a0I\u2019ve read a bit about Islam, I\u2019ve actually met several Muslims, and, although I can\u2019t say that I\u2019ve read as many anti-Islamic websites as some of my critics have, I\u2019ve come to understand a few things about the faith, its adherents, and their history.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I find myself between those, mostly on the Left, who either argue that there are no real problems in the world of Islam or that, if there are, they\u2019re all the fault of the West, and those who want claim that Islam is irretrievably evil and that all Muslims are our enemies.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I believe that\u00a0circulating baseless anti-Islamic propaganda simply inflames things and terrifies people. \u00a0It helps neither in understanding the real problems nor \u2014 largely for that reason \u2014 in thinking about ways to solve them.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk\/another-fake-anti-islam-quote-from-the-far-right\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Here\u2019s an item<\/a> about one popular anti-Islamic quotation that\u2019s made the rounds on the internet:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"TCwpslbjch\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk\/another-fake-anti-islam-quote-from-the-far-right\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Another fake anti-Islam quote from the far right<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cAnother fake anti-Islam quote from the far right\u201d \u2014 Islamophobia Watch\" src=\"https:\/\/www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk\/another-fake-anti-islam-quote-from-the-far-right\/embed\/#?secret=QENm2MgAZ5#?secret=TCwpslbjch\" data-secret=\"TCwpslbjch\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>One\u00a0irony is that, while I oppose such malevolent fakery, I myself am on what is commonly called (by some people on the Left) the Far Right. \u00a0So please don\u2019t write to me to accuse me of being a typical bleeding-heart academic Leftist. \u00a0Such nonsense grew tiresome many years ago.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Which reminds me of a story:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Many years ago, during the first Gulf War, I found myself on a radio call-in show in Salt Lake City. \u00a0At the very, very end, one last caller phoned in, asking my opinion of the idea of using nuclear weapons against Baghdad and Basra.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I responded, first of all, by pointing out that there seemed no military reason to do so. \u00a0Our troops were advancing against virtually no resistance, like a hot knife through melted butter. \u00a0Moreover, I said, neither Basra nor Baghdad was actually involved in the fighting. \u00a0To attack them, pointlessly, with nuclear weapons \u2014 weapons that hadn\u2019t been used since the end of the Second World War \u2014 would be to incinerate\u00a0several million unarmed civilian noncombatants. \u00a0I observed that, in doing so, we would definitely and forever be giving up the moral high ground in the conflict, and I said that I myself would be on the streets demonstrating against any U.S. administration that committed such an act.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s spineless liberals like you that cost us the war in Vietnam!\u201d the man yelled into his phone before slamming it down.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I couldn\u2019t wait to get to my office the next day, to tell my genuinely leftist academic colleagues\u00a0\u2014 who saw me, not entirely inaccurately, as somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun \u2014 that I\u2019d been called a \u201cspineless\u201d liberal for not immediately embracing the idea of needlessly murdering roughly ten million defenseless men, women, and children.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I guess I\u2019m just a wimp.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Amman, Jordan<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 I don\u2019t deny for a moment that there are major problems in the Islamic world today, and that a great deal of evil has been and is being committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. \u00a0 I don\u2019t appreciate being told, as I routinely am in emails and elsewhere, that I\u2019m whitewashing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33020","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Did you ever play a game called &quot;Marco Polo&quot;? 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