{"id":33399,"date":"2016-05-11T15:06:13","date_gmt":"2016-05-11T21:06:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=33399"},"modified":"2016-05-11T15:06:13","modified_gmt":"2016-05-11T21:06:13","slug":"science-as-a-kind-of-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2016\/05\/science-as-a-kind-of-religion.html","title":{"rendered":"Science as a kind of religion?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_33400\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-33400\" style=\"width: 547px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/05\/559px-The_spectacular_star-forming_Carina_Nebula_imaged_by_the_VLT_Survey_Telescope.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-33400\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-33400\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/05\/559px-The_spectacular_star-forming_Carina_Nebula_imaged_by_the_VLT_Survey_Telescope.jpg\" alt=\"Nebula Carina, as seen from Chile\" width=\"547\" height=\"587\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-33400\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Carina Nebula, in an image from the ESO Paranal Observatory in Chile<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt is no more heretical to say the Universe displays purpose, as [Sir Fred] Hoyle has done, than to say that it is pointless, as Steven Weinberg has done. \u00a0Both statements are metaphysical and outside science. \u00a0Yet it seems that scientists are permitted by their own colleagues to say metaphysical things about lack of purpose and not the reverse. \u00a0This suggests to me that science, in allowing this metaphysical notion, sees itself as religion and presumably as an atheistic religion (if you can have such a thing).\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Michael Shallis, \u201cIn the eye of a storm,\u201d\u00a0<em>New Scientist<\/em>,\u00a0101 (1393): 42\u201343 (19 January 1984)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Venice, Italy<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u201cIt is no more heretical to say the Universe displays purpose, as [Sir Fred] Hoyle has done, than to say that it is pointless, as Steven Weinberg has done. \u00a0Both statements are metaphysical and outside science. \u00a0Yet it seems that scientists are permitted by their own colleagues to say metaphysical things about lack [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33399","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Science as a kind of religion?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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