{"id":44170,"date":"2017-09-06T13:10:33","date_gmt":"2017-09-06T19:10:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=44170"},"modified":"2017-09-06T13:10:33","modified_gmt":"2017-09-06T19:10:33","slug":"the-beheading-of-shiz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2017\/09\/the-beheading-of-shiz.html","title":{"rendered":"The Beheading of Shiz"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_30247\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-30247\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/01\/hamilton-new-zealand-lds-temple-942155-gallery.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30247\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-30247\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/01\/hamilton-new-zealand-lds-temple-942155-gallery.jpg\" alt=\"New Zealand's temple\" width=\"596\" height=\"397\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-30247\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Hamilton New Zealand Temple (Wikimedia Commons)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A sad Mormon-related story out of New Zealand:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/news\/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11916833\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cKiwi-born mum dies giving birth to triplets\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>***<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A nice essay in <em>Meridian Magazine<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ldsmag.com\/why-the-arguments-of-new-atheism-may-sound-familiar\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhy the Arguments of \u2018New Atheism\u2019 May Sound Familiar\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>***<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think, by the way, that I\u2019ve been pushing <em>Meridian Magazine<\/em> enough:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ldsmag.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/ldsmag.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a treasure trove of interesting reading.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>***<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I doubt that he would like to hear me saying so, but, in this extraordinarily interesting article, evangelical pastor Peter Burfeind gives a very Mormon-sounding answer to the question of the fate of those who didn\u2019t hear the Gospel during their lifetimes:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thefederalist.com\/2017\/09\/01\/heres-answer-rob-bell-wont-give-aaron-rodgers-salvation-people-remote-rainforest\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHere\u2019s The Answer Rob Bell Won\u2019t Give Aaron Rodgers about Salvation for People \u2018in a Remote Rainforest\u2019\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If only he had worked into his discussion some mention of <a href=\"http:\/\/biblehub.com\/1_corinthians\/15-29.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">1 Corinthians 15:29<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s interesting to see some contemporary mainline Christians coming around to something like the theology that undergirds Latter-day Saint temple work for the dead.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sorry, but I mislaid my note. \u00a0Was it Justin Martinez who brought this fascinating item to my attention? \u00a0I really can\u2019t remember. \u00a0And I hate to fail to give proper thanks.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>***<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A few days ago, I came across the crowing of an apostate former Mormon about the idiocy of those who persist in their silly conviction that the Book of Mormon is true and that Joseph Smith was a genuine prophet of God. \u00a0Perhaps his prime example, his Exhibit A, of asinine Latter-day Saint beliefs was the ridiculous story of the death of Shiz at the conclusion of the final battle of the Jaredites:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"p25\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354468\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">25\u00a0<\/span>And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p26\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354469\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">26\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p27\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354470\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">27\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p28\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354471\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">28\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that when\u00a0the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p29\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354472\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">29\u00a0<\/span>Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had\u00a0all\u00a0fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p30\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354473\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">30\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p31\" class=\"verse highlight\" data-aid=\"128354474\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">31\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and\u00a0fell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"p32\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354475\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong><span class=\"verse-number verse\">32\u00a0<\/span>And it came to pass that\u00a0Coriantumr\u00a0fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life. \u00a0(Ether 15)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>How could Shiz, having just been decapitated, raise himself \u201cup on his hands\u201d and \u201cstruggle for breath\u201d? \u00a0Decapitation entails the\u00a0instant cessation of all functions.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I couldn\u2019t help but think of an article published back in the nineties by Dr. Gary Hadfield and mentioned again in this short article from Book of Mormon Central:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org\/content\/how-could-shiz-move-and-breathe-after-being-beheaded\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow Could Shiz Move and Breathe After Being Beheaded?\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 A sad Mormon-related story out of New Zealand: \u00a0 \u201cKiwi-born mum dies giving birth to triplets\u201d \u00a0 *** \u00a0 A nice essay in Meridian Magazine: \u00a0 \u201cWhy the Arguments of \u2018New Atheism\u2019 May Sound Familiar\u201d \u00a0 *** \u00a0 I don\u2019t think, by the way, that I\u2019ve been pushing Meridian Magazine enough: \u00a0 https:\/\/ldsmag.com [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44170","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Beheading of Shiz<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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