{"id":44172,"date":"2017-09-06T15:16:04","date_gmt":"2017-09-06T21:16:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=44172"},"modified":"2017-09-06T15:16:04","modified_gmt":"2017-09-06T21:16:04","slug":"previously-unknown-comment-joseph-smith-religious-liberty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2017\/09\/previously-unknown-comment-joseph-smith-religious-liberty.html","title":{"rendered":"A previously unknown comment from Joseph Smith on religious liberty"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_40173\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-40173\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/02\/nauvoo-temple-ruins-lithograph-212425-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-40173\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-40173\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/02\/nauvoo-temple-ruins-lithograph-212425-2-1024x739.jpg\" alt=\"Piercy in Nauvoo, with ruins\" width=\"596\" height=\"430\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-40173\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cThe Nauvoo Temple in Ruins\u201d (1853), by Frederick Piercy \u00a0(Wikimedia CC\u00a0public domain)<br>The Latter-day Saints had been driven from Nauvoo just six years before, after the murder of Joseph Smith.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been reading the new book edited by Matthew J. Grow and R. Eric Smith, <em>The Council of Fifty: What the Records Reveal about Mormon History<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s extremely interesting, to me at least, and there\u2019s much to say about it.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The most recent chapter that I\u2019ve read is Gerrit J. Dirkmaat\u2019s \u201cLost Teachings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and Other Church Leaders.\u201d \u00a0Professor Dirkmaat is a scholar whose work I\u2019ve very much enjoyed and have often recommended. \u00a0(See, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deseretnews.com\/article\/865631371\/From-Darkness-unto-Light-takes-a-fresh-look-at-recovery-publication-of-the-Book-of-Mormon.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018From Darkness unto Light\u2019 takes a fresh look at recovery, publication of the Book of Mormon.\u201d<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I think that I\u2019ll share a few passages, cited by Dr. Dirkmaat, from a rather emotional sermon that the Prophet Joseph Smith delivered on 11 April 1844, about two and a half months before his murder at the hands of an anti-Mormon mob.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the course of it, writes Professor Dirkmaat, \u201cPoignantly, and perhaps with a notion that his own death was approaching, Joseph extolled the virtues of friendship and ominously confided, \u2018The only thing I am afraid of is, that I will not live long enough to enjoy the society of these my friends as long as I want to.'\u201d \u00a0William Clayton, the scribe for the sermon, not only took down the Prophet\u2019s words but \u201cattempted to convey the passion with which Joseph spoke, concluding the account by explaining, \u2018While the president was speaking on these subjects he felt animated and used a 24 inch gauge or rule pretty freely till finally he broke it in two in the middle.'\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here is a\u00a0passage from that sermon, the text of which has not been available until very recently. \u00a0Original spelling has been retained:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cFor the benifit of mankind and succeeding generations he [Joseph Smith] wished it to be recorded that there are men admitted members of this honorable council, who are not members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, neither profess any creed or religious sentiment whatever, to show that in the organization of this kingdom men are not consulted as to their religious opinions or notions in any shape or form whatever and that we act upon the broad and liberal principal that all men have equal rights, and ought to be respected, and that every man has a privilege in this organization [the Council of Fifty] of choosing for himself voluntarily his God, and what he pleases for his religion.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>More to come.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 I\u2019ve been reading the new book edited by Matthew J. Grow and R. Eric Smith, The Council of Fifty: What the Records Reveal about Mormon History. \u00a0 It\u2019s extremely interesting, to me at least, and there\u2019s much to say about it. \u00a0 The most recent chapter that I\u2019ve read is Gerrit J. Dirkmaat\u2019s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44172","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>A previously unknown comment from Joseph Smith on religious liberty<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ve been reading the new book edited by Matthew J. Grow and R. 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