{"id":68055,"date":"2018-12-06T19:58:10","date_gmt":"2018-12-07T02:58:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=68055"},"modified":"2018-12-06T20:34:04","modified_gmt":"2018-12-07T03:34:04","slug":"more-on-counseling-resources-at-byu-in-light-of-the-recent-suicide-there","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2018\/12\/more-on-counseling-resources-at-byu-in-light-of-the-recent-suicide-there.html","title":{"rendered":"More on counseling resources at BYU, in light of the recent suicide there"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_37094\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37094\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/Campus-panoramic_1600-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-37094\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/Campus-panoramic_1600-1.jpg\" alt=\"BYU by night\" width=\"596\" height=\"155\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-37094\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Provo, Utah, campus of Brigham Young University by night<br>(Image from the BYU website)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Brigham Young University and its sponsor, the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a>, are taking heavy fire right now for their alleged lack of care for members and students who suffer from mental illness or emotional problems. \u00a0As I said in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2018\/12\/reactions-to-a-tragedy.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">an earlier post on this topic<\/a>, it\u2019s being alleged, in at least some quarters, that the Church (and, therefore, its flagship university) are concerned only about money, not about people, which lack of concern has allegedly led BYU to give only skimpy attention to mental health and counseling resources.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The title of an article in the <em>Salt Lake Tribune<\/em> about the suicide, this week, of a young BYU coed certainly can be read as adding fuel to that fire:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sltrib.com\/news\/2018\/12\/05\/after-public-suicide\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018No one can really get the help they need\u2019: BYU students are questioning wait times at their campus counseling center after a public suicide\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a passage from that article:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>BYU has 29 counselors and four interns to serve a campus of more than 33,000. According to the most accepted recommendations, that\u2019s hitting the minimum of what a school should have.<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Those figures work out, putting both fulltime counselors and interns into the pool, to one counselor per 1000 students. \u00a0That ratio can be made to sound not only inadequate but, in the right hands, absolutely terrible and callous.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>How does it compare to the ratio of mental health support personal in the United States to the general population?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It seems that, in 2011, there were <a href=\"https:\/\/psychcentral.com\/lib\/mental-health-professionals-us-statistics\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">552,000 mental health professionals practicing in the United States<\/a>, which, that year, had a total population of approximately 311.6 million. \u00a0That yields a ratio of approximately one mental health professional for every 565 individuals in America, a figure that is much better \u2014 on superficial inspection, anyway \u2014 than BYU\u2019s proportion of one counselor to every 1000 students.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>However, it\u2019s difficult \u2014 for me, at least \u2014 to know how to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges in this matter.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Of those 552,000 mental health professionals across America in 2011, 152,000 were clinical and counseling psychologists. \u00a0There were 34,400 psychiatrists and 27,300 marriage and family therapists. \u00a0Mental health and substance abuse social workers numbered 138,700. \u00a0Mental health counselors were almost as numerous, at 113,300, while substance abuse counselors numbered 86,100.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>How do those categories map onto BYU\u2019s Counseling and Psychological Services (CAPS)? \u00a0Is CAPS involved in all of those areas?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, the United States population of\u00a0311.6 million in 2011 included all age groups, while BYU\u2019s student population is heavily dominated by the age cohort ranging from, say, 17-30. \u00a0Which may make things at BYU look worse still.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>However . . . \u00a0BYU\u2019s Counseling and Psychological Services staff isn\u2019t \u2014 by far \u2014 the only source of mental health assistance in Provo\/Orem or Utah Valley or along the Wasatch Front, let alone in the various hometowns from which BYU\u2019s population comes. \u00a0It\u2019s just one of a number of them. \u00a0And I\u2019m sure that more than a few students who make use of such services do so off campus, at home, and etc. \u00a0There are independent providers of mental health support and major hospitals in Utah Valley, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/providentliving.lds.org\/lds-family-services\/counseling-services?lang=eng\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the counseling offered by LDS Family Services.<\/a>\u00a0 Indeed, there is at least one member of the faculty of the BYU Department of Psychology who, I happen to know, offers counseling on a part-time basis and yet who, so far as I\u2019m aware, is not counted among BYU\u2019s staff of fulltime counselors. \u00a0And, although I realize that many will sniff at this, there is \u2014 obviously for less extreme mental\/emotional problems \u2014 a very extensive network of nonprofessional counseling and sheer human contact in the bishops and ministering brothers and sisters of the Church. \u00a0It\u2019s relatively difficult to be completely alone as a Latter-day Saint. \u00a0And those bishops can and do \u2014 I did \u2014 put people in touch with professional counseling when it seems warranted.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>None of this is to say that the current situation can\u2019t be improved \u2014 although I don\u2019t know, and I suspect that few if any others know, whether counseling could have prevented this week\u2019s suicide at BYU. \u00a0(Suicides occur even deep inside mental health facilities, for example.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Those who seek to exploit this tragic death as a weapon against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and against Brigham Young University, who want to use it to paint the Church and the University as indifferent to the welfare of members and students, should be aware of the factual context \u2014 although I\u2019m not sure that they\u2019ll care. \u00a0Continuing with the <em>Tribune<\/em> article:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>Others in Utah fare worse.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>Neighboring Utah Valley University in Orem has seven counselors and more than 35,000 students. The University of Utah has 14.25 counselors for 33,000 students (about the same population as BYU). Students at Utah State University voted last year to raise student fees to hire another therapist. They now have 8.5 counselors for 16,000 students.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It would be interesting to see what the figures are at other colleges and universities in the United States and Canada.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Brigham Young University and its sponsor, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, are taking heavy fire right now for their alleged lack of care for members and students who suffer from mental illness or emotional problems. \u00a0As I said in an earlier post on this topic, it\u2019s being alleged, in at [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-68055","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>More on counseling resources at BYU, in light of the recent suicide there<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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