{"id":69457,"date":"2019-01-21T18:30:02","date_gmt":"2019-01-22T01:30:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=69457"},"modified":"2019-01-27T20:34:08","modified_gmt":"2019-01-28T03:34:08","slug":"conceivably-he-could-get-along-without-his-head","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/01\/conceivably-he-could-get-along-without-his-head.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Conceivably he could get along without his head&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_69460\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-69460\" style=\"width: 577px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/01\/Statue_of_Averroes_in_C%C3%B3rdoba_Spain.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-69460\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/01\/Statue_of_Averroes_in_C%C3%B3rdoba_Spain.jpg\" alt=\"Statue of the guy that did the Great Commentary\" width=\"577\" height=\"769\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-69460\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A statue of the great twelfth-century Andalusian Arab philosopher, jurist, and Aristotle commentator Ibn Rushd (Averro\u00ebs) in C\u00f3rdoba, Spain \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve never previously read Lenn Evan Goodman,\u00a0<em>Ibn Tufayl\u2019s\u00a0<\/em>Hayy ibn Yaqzan<em>: A Philosophical Tale\u00a0<\/em>(Chicago and London: The University of Chicago Press, 2009), including its translation of the remarkable twelfth-century Andalusian Arabic text that is at its heart. \u00a0In fact, it\u2019s been a fair amount of time since I last read <em>Hayy ibn Yaqzan<\/em> at all, and I\u2019m noticing quite a few things in rereading it now that I hadn\u2019t noticed before, or don\u2019t recall having noticed.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll share a small item that\u2019s related to a controversial passage in the Book of Mormon. \u00a0First the Book of Mormon, from Ether 15:30-32:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"p30\" class=\"verse\" data-aid=\"128354473\"><span style=\"color: #993300;\">And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz. \u00a0And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and\u00a0fell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died. \u00a0And it came to pass that\u00a0Coriantumr\u00a0fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Many have mocked that account, claiming it to be impossible.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The most interesting Latter-day Saint response to the controversy has been that of Dr. M. Gary Hadfield,\u00a0a professor of neuropathology in Virginia:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org\/knowhy\/how-could-shiz-move-and-breathe-after-being-beheaded\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow Could Shiz Move and Breathe After Being Beheaded?\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Reading in <em>Hayy ibn Yaqzan<\/em> today, though, I was struck by a passage in which the eponymous hero of the tale, trying to understand the death of the doe who, in the story, has raised him from infancy alone on a desert island, reasons his way to the indispensability of a beating heart. \u00a0Here is part of his thought process:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\">He could restrict the action of his other organs \u2014 hands, feet, eyes, nose, and ears; he could lose these parts and conceivably get along without them. \u00a0Conceivably he could get along without his head. \u00a0(112)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Curiously, ancient scientists and philosophers often failed to recognize the function of the brain. \u00a0For instance, Aristotle (384-322 BC)\u00a0thought that the heart was the seat of intelligence \u2014 an idea that Ibn Tufayl appeared to share \u2014 while the\u00a0brain\u00a0was merely a mechanism for cooling the blood.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In his footnote to the passage from Ibn Tufayl quoted above, Professor Goodman, the translator and commentator, offers the following, though unfortunately without supplying references:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\">Alexander of Aphrodisias knew that an organism might survive (for a short time!) without its head. \u00a0Ibn Rushd writes \u2018I myself have seen a ram with head cut off run this way and that again and again.'\u201d \u00a0(195, note 100)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #993300;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>New, on <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the website of the Interpreter Foundation<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-has-anyone-seen-god\/?fbclid=IwAR1gusDc4xhH2LtUrPljxjRxMiOH9Z5xQ4lh6vJDEaywCcZVn7an6TMnb1M\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHas Anyone Seen God?\u201d \u00a0A Video Supplement for\u00a0<em>Come, Follow Me<\/em>\u00a0Lesson 4:\u00a0<em>We Have Found the Messiah<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>From Ireland\u2019s remarkably prolific Latter-day Saint writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mormoninterpreter.com\/author\/robertb\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Robert Boylan<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/scripturalmormonism.blogspot.com\/2019\/01\/where-i-agree-100-with-john-dehlin.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-item-type=\"post\" data-id=\"6244233770361100996\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cWhere I agree 100% with John Dehlin\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/scripturalmormonism.blogspot.com\/2019\/01\/truth-and-method-reflections-on-dan.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-item-type=\"post\" data-id=\"5777606537192803935\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cTruth and Method: Reflections on Dan Vogel\u2019s Approach to the Book of Mormon\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Some will enjoy this account:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldsliving.com\/How-an-Atheist-Came-Back-to-the-Church-and-Found-Peace-Despite-Doubt\/s\/90112\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow an Atheist Came Back to the Church and Found Peace Despite Doubt\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>More news from the grounds of the Rome Italy Temple:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldsliving.com\/What-Religious-Leaders-and-Others-Are-Saying-After-Touring-the-Rome-Italy-Temple\/s\/90118?utm_source=ldsliving&amp;utm_medium=email%22\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhat Religious Leaders and Others Are Saying After Touring the Rome Italy Temple\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thechurchnews.com\/global\/2019-01-14\/from-copenhagen-to-rome-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-italy-visitors-center-christus-statue-48753\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cA look at how the Christus and 12 Apostle statues went from Copenhagen to the Rome Italy Temple grounds\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993300;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Whether you missed Sunday night\u2019s striking lunar eclipse or not, I think there\u2019s a reasonably good chance that you\u2019ll enjoy these images:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2019\/01\/21\/health\/super-blood-wolf-moon-sightings-scli-intl\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cStargazers share images of the super blood wolf moon\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldsliving.com\/Stunning-Blood-Moon-Temple-Photos\/s\/87609\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c9 Stunning Blood Moon Temple Photos\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 I\u2019ve never previously read Lenn Evan Goodman,\u00a0Ibn Tufayl\u2019s\u00a0Hayy ibn Yaqzan: A Philosophical Tale\u00a0(Chicago and London: The University of Chicago 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