{"id":71956,"date":"2019-03-24T14:18:03","date_gmt":"2019-03-24T20:18:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=71956"},"modified":"2019-03-24T14:18:03","modified_gmt":"2019-03-24T20:18:03","slug":"no-the-death-experience-was-very-different-to-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/03\/no-the-death-experience-was-very-different-to-that.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;No, the death experience was very different to that.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_71959\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-71959\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/03\/Main_entrance_to_University_of_Wales_Swansea_seen_from_Mumbles_Road_-_geograph.org_.uk_-_275168.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-71959\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/03\/Main_entrance_to_University_of_Wales_Swansea_seen_from_Mumbles_Road_-_geograph.org_.uk_-_275168.jpg\" alt=\"University of Wales, Swansea\" width=\"596\" height=\"447\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-71959\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The main entrance to the University of Swansea in Wales, where Dr. Penny Sartori teaches.<br>(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Over the years, I\u2019ve read a great deal about so-called \u201cnear-death experiences\u201d (NDEs), which I find both fascinating and, on the whole, believable. \u00a0One of the books that I\u2019ve read is by Dr. Penny Sartori. \u00a0While working\u00a0as a nurse<span class=\"C-2\">\u00a0in a British hospital for twenty-one\u00a0years (seventeen of\u00a0them in intensive care), she became concerned about modern medical treatment of dying patients and began research that would eventually earn her a Ph.D. \u00a0In the course of her studies, she became intrigued by NDEs, beginning as a cynic but soon leaving her cynicism behind. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a passage from Penny Sartori,\u00a0<em>The Wisdom of Near-Death Experiences: How Understanding NDEs Can Help Us Live More Fully<\/em>\u00a0(London: Watkins Publishing, 2014), 130-131:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The patient in question was in a deeply unconscious state in which he was unresponsive to either verbal stimuli or painful stimuli. \u00a0She was the nurse looking after him when the incident occurred (in November 1999) and she was present during the entire sequence of events. \u00a0During the summer of 2013, she interviewed him again:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1d6308;\">Oh yes, I still remember it. \u00a0It\u2019s just as clear, I can see it in my mind very vividly. \u00a0The first bit I remember is sitting in the chair. \u00a0The next thing I was floating upwards to the top of the room. \u00a0I looked down and I could see my body on the bed. \u00a0It was lovely, so peaceful and no pain at all. \u00a0All my pain had gone. . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1d6308;\">Then I felt someone touching my eye, I looked down and saw my body and the doctor and I could see you, Penny. \u00a0The doctor said something about my eye. \u00a0Then after that you put that pink lollipop thing in my mouth to clean it. \u00a0That other girl was there, too, she was hiding outside the curtains, she was worried about me and kept looking to see how I was.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1d6308;\">Then I heard someone say, \u2018He\u2019s got to go back.\u2019 . . . \u00a0But I wanted to stay there, it was so nice. \u00a0I was having a nice time. \u00a0And then I was floating backwards and went back into my body. \u00a0Oh and the pain when I got into my body was terrible, it was awful. \u00a0I\u2019ll always remember that. . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1d6308;\">It was very clear, not like those hallucinations I had when I was on morphine. \u00a0Those hallucinations were terrible. \u00a0I can\u2019t remember them so clearly now but I remember the room was spinning and spiders were running up and down the walls and it felt like the bed was moving and going through walls. \u00a0No, the death experience was very different to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And then Dr. Sartori herself comments on page 132:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1d6308;\">This case was most interesting as he correctly identified which doctor had examined him, he correctly described the actions of the nurse and the physiotherapist that had occurred while he was unconscious. \u00a0Everything that he reported actually did occur and he reported it with accuracy \u2014 I know because I was present for the whole duration but it wasn\u2019t until he regained consciousness that I realized he had been experiencing an NDE and OBE at the time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Over the years, I\u2019ve read a great deal about so-called \u201cnear-death experiences\u201d (NDEs), which I find both fascinating and, on the whole, believable. \u00a0One of the books that I\u2019ve read is by Dr. Penny Sartori. \u00a0While working\u00a0as a nurse\u00a0in a British hospital for twenty-one\u00a0years (seventeen of\u00a0them in intensive care), she became concerned about 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