{"id":72733,"date":"2019-04-10T09:46:44","date_gmt":"2019-04-10T15:46:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=72733"},"modified":"2019-04-10T09:46:44","modified_gmt":"2019-04-10T15:46:44","slug":"the-mormon-as-magus-part-three","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The Mormon as Magus,&#8221; Part Three"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_38953\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-38953\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/12\/palmyra-temple-lds-901867-gallery.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-38953\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/12\/palmyra-temple-lds-901867-gallery.jpg\" alt=\"The Palmyra Temple in New York State\" width=\"596\" height=\"397\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-38953\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Today, the Palmyra New York Temple stands not far from the Hill Cumorah and the Sacred Grove (LDS.org)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn\u2019s <em>Early <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormonism<\/a> and the Magic World View<\/em> that my friend, former missionary companion, and current BYU department colleague, Stephen D. Ricks, and I published in the January 1988 issue of <em>Sunstone<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Quinn\u2019s attempted rehabilitation of the salamander is, in fact, extremely puzzling. Although there are no authentic documents explicitly linking Joseph Smith or early Mormonism to the figure of a salamander, he spends several pages (pp. 129-133) showing how perfectly proper it would be if it were there. We are sympathetic with his desire to substitute its neutral-to-positive image for the negative and sinister image of the toad, but there is simply no evidence for it in the documents. Had Mark Hofmann not planted the idea in Mormon minds, would anyone ever have thought of it? Further, it needs to be pointed out that exhaustive studies of the treasure digging motif in American folklore have failed to turn up any trace of a salamander in connection with treasure digging.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Despite our manifold reservations, we\u00a0must say that Quinn\u2019s book is important and, in many ways, brilliant. No one interested in Mormon origins can overlook it. Furthermore, its implications for traditional views of the Restoration are by no means entirely negative. His recognition of the centrality of heavenly ascent in both the temple endowment and the ancient mysteries, and of the chasm between the Masonic and Mormon rituals revealed by its absence from the former, is a point which cannot be stressed too strongly. And Quinn offers a wealth of evidence which would seem to show that, at the very times when Joseph and his associates claim something very special was going on, something quite unusual really was. Unfortunately, in his attempt to view much of Mormonism from a \u201cmagical\u201d perspective \u2014 an enterprise in which he realized there were dangers of overemphasis (p. xx) \u2014 he has probably gone too far.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Occasionally, \u201cdiscovered\u201d or \u201crediscovered\u201d dements of <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormon history<\/a> have precipitated calls by historians and others to reassess the whole of early Mormon history in the light of that element. In the late sixties, work on the Council of Fifty resulted in such a call from certain quarters. Significantly, Michad Quinn was among those who showed that such revisionist history would produce more distortion than genuine insight. Some may similarly see the alleged \u201cmagic\u201d and \u201coccult\u201d elements in Joseph Smith\u2019s background as requiring a reassessment of LDS history. However, if <em>Early Mormonism and the Magic World View<\/em> is an example of such revisionist history, the hypothesis may already have reached \u2014 or exceeded \u2014 the limits of its usefulness.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Incidentally: \u00a0For a review, published in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mormoninterpreter.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<\/em><\/a>, of D. Michael Quinn\u2019s latest book, see Larry T. Wimmer, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mormoninterpreter.com\/through-a-glass-darkly-examining-church-finances\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThrough a Glass Darkly: Examining Church Finances.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn\u2019s Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary companion, and current BYU department colleague, Stephen D. Ricks, and I published in the January 1988 issue of Sunstone: \u00a0 Quinn\u2019s attempted rehabilitation of the salamander is, in fact, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-72733","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;The Mormon as Magus,&quot; Part Three<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn&#039;s Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"&quot;The Mormon as Magus,&quot; Part Three\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn&#039;s Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Sic et Non\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/12\/palmyra-temple-lds-901867-gallery.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Dan Peterson\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Dan Peterson\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html\",\"name\":\"\\\"The Mormon as Magus,\\\" Part Three\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/77113e9b09701bd1599fa272c4f65045\"},\"description\":\"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn's Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"&#8220;The Mormon as Magus,&#8221; Part Three\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/\",\"name\":\"Sic et Non\",\"description\":\"\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/77113e9b09701bd1599fa272c4f65045\",\"name\":\"Dan Peterson\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5ed1a72d26805e35a503e3167599df7c?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5ed1a72d26805e35a503e3167599df7c?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Dan Peterson\"},\"description\":\"\\\"Life was very unsatisfying until I discovered Dan's blog, which gave me a reason to live.\\\" (gemli, 7 November 2019)\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/author\/danpeterson\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"\"The Mormon as Magus,\" Part Three","description":"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn's Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"\"The Mormon as Magus,\" Part Three","og_description":"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn's Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html","og_site_name":"Sic et Non","article_published_time":"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/12\/palmyra-temple-lds-901867-gallery.jpg"}],"author":"Dan Peterson","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Dan Peterson","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html","name":"\"The Mormon as Magus,\" Part Three","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#website"},"datePublished":"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00","dateModified":"2019-04-10T15:46:44+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/77113e9b09701bd1599fa272c4f65045"},"description":"&nbsp; &nbsp; The third and final portion of a review of D. Michael Quinn's Early Mormonism and the Magic World View that my friend, former missionary","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/the-mormon-as-magus-part-three.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"&#8220;The Mormon as Magus,&#8221; Part Three"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/","name":"Sic et Non","description":"","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/77113e9b09701bd1599fa272c4f65045","name":"Dan Peterson","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5ed1a72d26805e35a503e3167599df7c?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5ed1a72d26805e35a503e3167599df7c?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Dan Peterson"},"description":"\"Life was very unsatisfying until I discovered Dan's blog, which gave me a reason to live.\" (gemli, 7 November 2019)","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/author\/danpeterson"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72733","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1019"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=72733"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72733\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=72733"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=72733"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=72733"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}