{"id":72907,"date":"2019-04-14T21:14:37","date_gmt":"2019-04-15T03:14:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=72907"},"modified":"2019-04-18T22:30:56","modified_gmt":"2019-04-19T04:30:56","slug":"new-testament-notes-211-213","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/04\/new-testament-notes-211-213.html","title":{"rendered":"New Testament Notes 211-213"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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\"Flores<\/a>
Rafael Flores (d. 1886), \u201cDante y Virgilio visitando el Infierno\u201d
(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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Luke 13:22-30<\/a><\/p>\n

Compare Matthew 7:13-14, 8:10-12; 19:30; 22-23; 25:10-12, 41<\/p>\n

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I lean toward universalism. \u00a0Not quite all the way, but close. \u00a0And not in doctrine \u2014 I don\u2019t teach it \u2014 but in hope.<\/p>\n

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I don\u2019t know how things will ultimately end up. \u00a0I hope that damnation for almost all will be temporary. \u00a0A learning experience.<\/p>\n

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I\u2019ve always been fond of a comment by Pope St. John Paul II. \u00a0When asked once whether a Christian must believe in Hell, he responded, \u201cYes, but we can hope that it will be empty.\u201d<\/p>\n

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As I say, I hope for universal salvation in the end. \u00a0But I wouldn\u2019t advise counting on it. \u00a0The scriptures offer no real hope on this score, though they don\u2019t altogether rule it out, as I read them. \u00a0And the verses cited above are among the powerful reasons one might cite for not counting on it.<\/p>\n

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\"Driving<\/a>
An even more spectacular case:\u00a0\u201cChrist cleansing the Temple\u201d
Ambrogio Bon, late 17th-century\u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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Luke 13:31-33<\/a><\/p>\n

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It\u2019s scarcely the only example, but this brief passage demonstrates beyond question that the Lord himself was capable of using irony (\u201cit cannot be that a prophet should perish away from Jerusalem\u201d) and negative description (\u201cthat fox\u201d) in speaking about those who opposed him. \u00a0He wasn\u2019t bland. \u00a0He wasn\u2019t always inoffensive. \u00a0He wasn\u2019t the weak \u201cconsumptive schoolgirl\u201d of some Victorian art that so repulsed the young C. S. Lewis and helped to ease his slide into atheism.<\/p>\n

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\"Shiva<\/a>
Andrew Shiva \/ Wikipedia \/ CC BY-SA 4.0
Jerusalem\u2019s Temple Mount, on the Arab side of the Old City today, is known in Arabic as \u201cal-Haram al-Sharif,\u201d \u201cThe Noble Sanctuary.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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Luke 13:34-35<\/a><\/p>\n

Compare Matthew 23:37-39<\/p>\n

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At John 14:7-9, Jesus is speaking with his apostles:<\/p>\n

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If ye had\u00a0known\u00a0me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the\u00a0Father; and how sayest thou\u00a0then,\u00a0<\/span>Shew us the Father?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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One of the ways in which the Son manifests the Father is in revealing his compassion: \u00a0The Father is not the Unmoved Mover of Aristotle, nor the passionless (impassible) Deity of certain strands of Aristotle-driven classical Christian theology. \u00a0And Jesus manifests him to us.<\/p>\n

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See \u201cReconsidering the emotions of God.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n

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Posted from San Diego, California<\/p>\n

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