{"id":75279,"date":"2019-06-22T20:25:44","date_gmt":"2019-06-23T02:25:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=75279"},"modified":"2019-06-22T20:25:44","modified_gmt":"2019-06-23T02:25:44","slug":"hope-for-the-eternities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/06\/hope-for-the-eternities.html","title":{"rendered":"Hope for the eternities"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_75282\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-75282\" style=\"width: 564px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/06\/rendering-arequipa-peru-temple-1721330-gallery.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-75282\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/06\/rendering-arequipa-peru-temple-1721330-gallery.jpg\" alt=\"It will be Peru's third temple\" width=\"564\" height=\"447\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-75282\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The initial architect\u2019s rendering of the Arequipa Peru Temple, which is nearing dedication.<br>(LDS Media Library)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Several times, here and elsewhere, I\u2019ve cited a quip from the late Pope St. John Paul II, whom I greatly admired and to whom I was once was fairly close during a meeting held in Rome\u2019s Basilica of St. Paul-Outside-the-Walls:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>When asked whether a Christian must believe in Hell, he replied that, yes, Christian faith necessitates belief in Hell. \u00a0\u201cBut,\u201d he added, \u201cwe may hope that it will be empty.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve described myself on multiple occasions as a quasi-universalist. \u00a0I won\u2019t make an argument for my position here, but I offer three quotations that I recently ran across.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The first is from Joseph Smith, who is commenting upon the vision\u00a0of the three degrees of glory, a report of which is recorded in Doctrine and Covenants 76, that he and Sidney Rigdon received in 1832:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #085908;\">\u201cNothing could be more pleasing to the Saints upon the order of the kingdom of the Lord, than the light which burst upon the world through the foregoing vision. Every law, every commandment, every promise, every truth, and every point touching the destiny of man, from Genesis to Revelation, where the purity of the scriptures remains unsullied by the folly of men, go to show the perfection of the theory [of different degrees of glory in the future life] and witnesses the fact that that document is a transcript from the records of the eternal world. The sublimity of the ideas; the purity of the language; the scope for action; the continued duration for completion, in order that the heirs of salvation may confess the Lord and bow the knee; the rewards for faithfulness, and the punishment for sins, are so much beyond the narrow-mindedness of men, that every honest man is constrained to exclaim: \u201c<em>It came from God.<\/em>\u201d\u201d (Joseph Smith,\u00a0<em>History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/em>, ed. B. H. Roberts, 2nd ed. rev. (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1957), 1:252\u201353; brackets and emphasis in original.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The second is from Brigham Young, who is describing the reaction of many of the Saints to the revelation when it was first received:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #085908;\">\u201cWhen God revealed to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon that there was a place prepared for all, according to the light they had received and their rejection of evil and practice of good, it was a great trial to many, and some apostatized because God was not going to send to everlasting punishment heathens and infants, but had a place of salvation, in due time, for all, and would bless the honest and virtuous and truthful, whether they ever belonged to any church or not. It was a new doctrine to this generation, and many stumbled at it.\u201d \u00a0(Brigham Young, in\u00a0<em>Journal of Discourses\u00a0<\/em>(London: Latter-day Saints\u2019 Book Depot, 1874\u201386), 16:42.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The third also comes from Brigham Young, who is summarizing what the revelation tells us about the character of God:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #085908;\">\u201cHe is compassionate to all the works of His hands, the plan of His redemption, and salvation, and mercy, is stretched out over all; and His plans are to gather up, and bring together, and save all the inhabitants of the earth, with the exception of those who have received the Holy Ghost, and sinned against it. With this exception, all the world besides shall be saved.\u2014<em>Is not this Universalism? It borders very close upon it.<\/em>\u201d \u00a0(Young, in\u00a0<em>Journal of Discourses<\/em>, 3:92; emphasis added.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Urubamba, Peru<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Several times, here and elsewhere, I\u2019ve cited a quip from the late Pope St. John Paul II, whom I greatly admired and to whom I was once was fairly close during a meeting held in Rome\u2019s Basilica of St. Paul-Outside-the-Walls: \u00a0 When asked whether a Christian must believe in Hell, he replied that, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-75279","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Hope for the eternities<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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