{"id":76965,"date":"2019-08-10T23:15:45","date_gmt":"2019-08-11T05:15:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=76965"},"modified":"2019-08-10T23:24:27","modified_gmt":"2019-08-11T05:24:27","slug":"trouble-arises-when-either-science-or-religion-claims-universal-jurisdiction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2019\/08\/trouble-arises-when-either-science-or-religion-claims-universal-jurisdiction.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Trouble arises when either science or religion claims universal jurisdiction&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_33516\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-33516\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/05\/800px-Jupiter_new_hubble_view_above_pole.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-33516\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/05\/800px-Jupiter_new_hubble_view_above_pole.png\" alt=\"Jupiter, as seen by the Hubble telescope\" width=\"597\" height=\"440\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-33516\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Hubble Space Telescope image of the planet Jupiter<br>(National Aeronautics and Space Administration public domain photograph)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodnewsnetwork.org\/optimistic-people-sleep-better-and-longer\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cOptimistic People Shown to Sleep Better and Longer\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>No <em>wonder<\/em> that I\u2019m sleeping better and better these days!<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #9e4509;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a trio of rather jovial science stories:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/science\/archive\/2019\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-seemed-to-be-unraveling\/595756\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cJupiter\u2019s Great Red Spot Is Behaving Strangely: For a time, it looked as though the planet\u2019s defining feature might be on the verge of extinction.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"td-container td-post-header\">\n<div class=\"td-post-header-holder\">\n<div class=\"td-parallax-header\">\n<header class=\"td-post-title\">\n<div class=\"td-module-meta-info\">\n<div class=\"td-post-author-name\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2019\/08\/07\/world\/jupiter-saturn-moon-sky-scn-trnd\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cJupiter, Saturn and the moon to line up in night sky this week\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"td-read-down\">\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/something-big-just-slammed-into-jupiter-1837095949\" data-id=\"\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cSomething Big Just Slammed Into Jupiter\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #9e4509;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And now a bit more astronomical news:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2019\/08\/07\/world\/ancient-galaxies-discovery-scn\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cAstronomers uncover \u2018invisible\u2019 massive ancient galaxies\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencenews.org\/article\/giant-active-galaxies-early-universe-may-have-finally-been-found?tgt=nr\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cGiant, active galaxies from the early universe may have finally been found: The behemoths date to within 2 billion years after the Big Bang\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2019\/08\/07\/world\/seagull-nebula-scn-trnd\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cTelescope captures cosmic Seagull Nebula in flight\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencenews.org\/article\/3-d-map-stars-reveals-milky-way-warped-shape?tgt=nr\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cA 3-D map of stars reveals the Milky Way\u2019s warped shape: Scientists used thousands of stars called Cepheids to trace the galaxy\u2019s structure\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencenews.org\/article\/stars-may-keep-spinning-fast-long-old-age?tgt=nr\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cStars may keep spinning fast, long into old age: The idea that older stars continually slow their rotation may be wrong\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencenews.org\/article\/exploding-stars-scattered-traces-iron-over-antarctic-snow?tgt=nr\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cExploding stars scattered traces of iron over Antarctic snow: Unlike previous similar detections, the interstellar material dribbled down on Earth recently\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #9e4509;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But perhaps it\u2019s time to come back down to earth a bit:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2019\/08\/07\/world\/earth-magnetic-field-reversal-scn\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cEarth\u2019s roaming magnetic poles create longer periods of instability, study says\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #9e4509;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I offer here a more complete version of a quotation from the eminent Anglo-American mathematician and mathematical physicist Freeman Dyson, of the Institute for Advance Study at Princeton, than I gave the other day:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #9e4509;\"><strong>Science and religion are two windows that people look through, trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand why we are here. \u00a0The two windows give different views, but they look out at the same universe. \u00a0Both views are one-sided, neither is complete. \u00a0Both leave out essential features of the real world. \u00a0And both are worthy of respect. . . . \u00a0 Trouble arises when either science or religion claims universal jurisdiction, when either religious dogma or scientific dogma claims to be infallible. \u00a0Religious creationists and scientific materialists are equally dogmatic and insensitive. \u00a0By their arrogance they bring both science and religion into disrepute. \u00a0The media exaggerate their numbers and importance. \u00a0The media rarely mention the fact that the great majority of religious people belong to moderate denominations that treat science with respect, or the fact that the great majority of scientists treat religion with respect so long as religion does not claim jurisdiction over scientific questions.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u201cOptimistic People Shown to Sleep Better and Longer\u201d \u00a0 No wonder that I\u2019m sleeping better and better these days! \u00a0 *** \u00a0 Here\u2019s a trio of rather jovial science stories: \u00a0 \u201cJupiter\u2019s Great Red Spot Is Behaving Strangely: For a time, it looked as though the planet\u2019s defining feature might be on the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-76965","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;Trouble arises when either science or religion claims universal jurisdiction&quot;<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Optimistic People Shown to Sleep Better and Longer&quot; &nbsp; No wonder that I&#039;m sleeping better and better these days! &nbsp; *** &nbsp;\" 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