{"id":87983,"date":"2020-09-09T09:31:04","date_gmt":"2020-09-09T15:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=87983"},"modified":"2020-09-09T15:22:48","modified_gmt":"2020-09-09T21:22:48","slug":"revision-4-22-contrasting-islam-and-latter-day-saint-teaching-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2020\/09\/revision-4-22-contrasting-islam-and-latter-day-saint-teaching-part-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Revision 4.22 &#8220;Contrasting Islam and Latter-day Saint Teaching\u201d (Part 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_40675\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-40675\" style=\"width: 361px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/03\/portrait-of-christ-carl-bloch-205065-gallery.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-40675\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/03\/portrait-of-christ-carl-bloch-205065-gallery.jpg\" alt=\"Bloch's Jesus\" width=\"361\" height=\"447\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-40675\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image of Christ from Carl Heinrich Bloch<br>(LDS Media Library)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I have already hinted in this chapter at some of the differences between the Qur\u2019anic version of biblical stories and the earlier Hebrew accounts. It will be recalled that, according to the Qur\u2019an, Abraham and Ishmael came down to west central Arabia and there founded the Meccan Ka\u2019ba, asking that they might be given a posterity that \u201csubmits\u201d to God (i.e., is \u201cMuslim\u201d).<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0 This incident is totally unknown to the Old Testament, but it serves to give ancient Arabia\u2014 which had previously seemed an utter blank spot in the record of God\u2019s dealings with humankind\u2014a part in the divine scheme of world history, a role that extends back even beyond the coming of the Prophet Muhammad. (Some non-Latter-day Saint scholars have claimed that the Book of Mormon served the same purpose for the Americas.) As I have noted, it is intriguing that the Qur\u2019an rarely argues for this visit by Abraham and Ishmael, but simply refers to it as a story already well known to both believers and nonbelievers alike in early Arabia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Far more important is the different view of Jesus taken by the Qur\u2019an. It is not merely the stories about Jesus\u2019 boyhood that are different. Tales about his speaking in the cradle and about his mak\u00ading a bird out of clay and then breathing life into it and watching it fly away are well known from the so-called \u201cinfancy gospels\u201d that circulated in early Christianity.<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[2]<\/a> No, the distinction between Islam and Christianity concerning the place of Jesus is much wider and much more significant than any issue raised by such stories.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">First, Islam denies that Jesus died upon the cross. The Jews are quoted in the Qur\u2019an as saying, \u201c\u2018We slew the Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary, the Messenger of God\u2019\u2014yet they did not slay him, neither cru\u00adcified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them\u2026 And they slew him not of a certainty\u2014no indeed; God raised him up to Him.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[3]<\/a> A similar position, claiming that Jesus did not actually suf\u00adfer under Pontius Pilate but only seemed to do so, is associated in Christian history with a heresy known as \u201cdocetism.\u201d (The name of the movement comes from the Greek verb <em>dokeo, <\/em>meaning \u201cto seem.\u201d) The Christian theological tendency that went under that title argued that Jesus, as God, was too exalted a being to suffer pain and that the real Christ, therefore, must have been removed from the scene before the actual suffering began. Other Christians rejected it as a heresy because there cannot be an atonement if there was no death. But where Christians would regard such an implication as fatal for the docetist view, Muslims would not be troubled at all. Indeed, the Qur\u2019an denies the possibility of intercession by one soul for another.<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[4]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Islam has consistently denied the divinity of Christ. \u201cIf the Lord of Mercy had a son,\u201d Muhammad is commanded to say, \u201cI would be the first to worship him.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[5]<\/a> But this the Qur\u2019an explicitly and repeatedly denies. \u201cHow should He have a son when He had no consort?\u201d it asks.<sup>198<\/sup><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[6]\u00a0<\/a>But this commonsensical question\u2014the same that was often asked by the late Elder LeGrand Richards of the Council of the Twelve\u2014is used not to establish the possibility that God the Father has a wife, but the impossibility of his being a father. \u201cHe (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[7]<\/a> Probably the strongest state\u00adment of this principle occurs toward the end of the Qur\u2019an-which means, most likely, that it came as one of the earliest chapters:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Say: \u201cHe is God, One, <\/strong><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <strong> God, the Everlasting Refuge, <\/strong><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <strong> who has not begotten, and has not been begotten, <\/strong><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <strong> and equal to Him is not any one.\u201d<\/strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[8]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The language of the Qur\u2019an is often quite vigorous on this sub\u00adject. There can be no doubt about its opinion of the importance of the issue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>And they say, \u201cThe All-merciful has taken unto Himself a son.\u201d You have indeed advanced something hideous!<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>The heavens are well-nigh rent of it and the earth split asunder, and<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>the mountains well-nigh fall down crashing<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>for that they have attributed to the All-merciful a son; and it<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>behooves not the All-merciful to take a son.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>None is there in the heavens and earth but he comes to the All-merciful<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>as a servant.<\/strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn5\" name=\"_ftnref5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[9]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Qur\u2019an does not deny the concept of the Virgin Birth; in fact, it speaks emphatically of \u201cMary,\u2026who preserved her chastity and into whose womb We breathed of Our spirit.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn6\" name=\"_ftnref6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[10]<\/a> But this does not make Jesus the son of God, according to Islamic views. Rather, it simply makes Jesus the only human being in history born to only one parent; to use technical language, he represents a case of par\u00adthenogenesis. Jesus has a special place in Islamic thought and in Islamic expectations for the last days. But he is definitely not, according to Islamic doctrine, the Son of God. Indeed, the Qur\u2019an represents him as denying this himself:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Then God will say: \u201cJesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to man\u00adkind: \u2018Worship me and my mother as gods beside God?\u2019\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>\u201cGlory to You,\u201d he will answer, \u201chow could I say that to which I have no right? If I had ever said so, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my mind, but I cannot tell what is in Yours. You alone know what is hidden. I spoke to them of nothing except what You bade me. I said: \u2018Serve God, my Lord and your Lord.\u2019\u201d<\/strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn7\" name=\"_ftnref7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[11]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[1]<\/a> 2:125 -29; 14:35 -37.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[2]<\/a> 3:46; 5:110; 19:29-33; 3:49; 5:110.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[3]<\/a> 4:157 58 (Arberry).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref4\" name=\"_ftn4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[4]<\/a> 2:48; 17:15; 21:28; 35:18; 39:7, 44; 53:38-39.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[5]<\/a> 43:81. <sup>198.<\/sup>6:101. 199\u2032 72:3.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[6]<\/a> 6:101.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[7]<\/a> 72:3.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref4\" name=\"_ftn4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[8]<\/a> This is the entire text of sura 177 of the Qur\u2019an.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref5\" name=\"_ftn5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[9]<\/a> 19:88-93Arberry, compare 2:116; 10:68-69; 17:111; 18:4-5; 19:35; 21:26-29; 23:91; 25:2; 39:4; 43:59.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref6\" name=\"_ftn6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[10]<\/a> 66:12.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref7\" name=\"_ftn7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[11]<\/a> 5:116-17.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 I have already hinted in this chapter at some of the differences between the Qur\u2019anic version of biblical stories and the earlier Hebrew accounts. 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