{"id":92831,"date":"2021-09-28T21:58:57","date_gmt":"2021-09-29T03:58:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=92831"},"modified":"2021-09-28T22:11:03","modified_gmt":"2021-09-29T04:11:03","slug":"and-that-is-dying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2021\/09\/and-that-is-dying.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;And that is dying&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_41861\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-41861\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/05\/800px-Creation_of_Adam.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-41861\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/05\/800px-Creation_of_Adam.jpg\" alt=\"Michelangelos's God and Adam\" width=\"596\" height=\"268\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-41861\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Creation of Adam<br>(A Wikimedia Commons public domain image of a detail from Michelangelo\u2019s Sistine Ceiling in the Vatican)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I call your attention to a pair of newly posted items on the website of the Interpreter Foundation:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-audio-roundtable-come-follow-me-doctrine-and-covenants-lesson-41\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Audio Roundtable: <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> Doctrine and Covenants Lesson 41: <em>\u201cI Will Order All Things for Your Good\u201d: <\/em>D&amp;C 111-114<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Interpreter Radio Roundtable for <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em>\u00a0Doctrine and Covenants Lesson 41,\u00a0<em>\u201cI Will Order All Things for Your Good,\u201d<\/em> on D&amp;C 111-114, was, in one important regard, quite simple:\u00a0 The sole panelist was Martin Tanner. The \u201croundtable \u201cwas extracted from the 29 August 2021 broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show. The complete broadcast, gloriously liberated from commercial and other interruptions, may be heard at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-August-29-2021\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-August-29-2021\/<\/a>. The Interpreter Radio Show can be listened to on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640, or, as an alternative, you can listen live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Jonn Claybaugh has kindly provided yet another short help for teachers and students in the Church:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-study-aids-doctrine-covenants-2021-lesson-41\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> \u2014 D&amp;C Study and Teaching Helps: Lesson 41, October 4-October 10: D&amp;C 111-114 \u2014\u00a0<em>\u201cI Will Order All Things for Your Good\u201d<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Some of you may find this piece of interest.\u00a0 It\u2019s by the prominent Evangelical Protestant philosopher William Lane Craig:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/article\/2021\/10\/the-historical-adam\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe Historical Adam\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The effort to extricate endangered people from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan just became a bit more personal for me.\u00a0 Someone who is deeply involved in it asked whether I might be able to help (in a minor and quite unheroic way).\u00a0 If I can help, I will.\u00a0 Otherwise, horrors.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In a distinct case, it\u2019s far more personal and intense for a BYU acquaintance of mine:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/utah\/2021\/9\/13\/22666803\/plan-is-to-get-them-out-afghanistan-inside-a-byu-professors-push-to-help-a-family-flee-taliban\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018The plan is to get them out of Afghanistan\u2019: Inside a BYU professor\u2019s push to help a family escape the Taliban\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Quite understandably, in view of the current uncertainty about COVID-19, several people decided to opt out of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cruiselady.com\/tours\/ultimate-egypt-2020\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">our upcoming special Interpreter Foundation tour of Egypt in November<\/a>.\u00a0 I can\u2019t really blame them.\u00a0 But we\u2019re still going.\u00a0 (Get vaccinated!)\u00a0 And that leaves several places on the tour open.\u00a0 The most crucial and time-sensitive issue at the present moment is that of the cruise ship that we\u2019ll be using on the Nile River between Aswan and Luxor.\u00a0 Our Egyptian associate says that he will keep our hold on several cabins open for the next two days, but that he will then let them go to others. If you had been thinking of going with us to Egypt, or if you know anyone who was or who is still thinking of going, this is the last chance to sign up.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re interested, you should contact <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cruiselady.com\/contact\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cruise Lady: Latter-day Adventures<\/a> as soon as possible or have your interested friends or relatives do so.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We had an exceptionally good meal tonight with good friends, in an exceptionally pleasant outdoor environment.\u00a0 I\u2019ll identify the restaurant, since some might find that helpful and since a very small group of others will nearly explode with vocal and angry bitterness at the very thought.\u00a0 Their angry personal bitterness seems to gratify them and to give their lives at least some transient sense of purpose.\u00a0 In other words, my writing briefly about a good meal at a good restaurant is a <em>twofer<\/em>.\u00a0 It pleases both friends and enemies:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/farmhouse.rogersgardens.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Farmhouse at Roger\u2019s Gardens<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We spent some time walking along the seashore this morning and then, this evening, we watched the sunset from Balboa Island.\u00a0 There are more ships out on the water than I\u2019m used to seeing here.\u00a0 That fact, coupled with the always awe-inspiring descent of the sun into the water \u2014 I was looking for the legendary and elusive <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aaas.org\/catching-elusive-green-flash#:~:text=The%20green%20flash%20is%20a,and%20the%20dispersion%20of%20sunlight.&amp;text=The%20very%20rare%20green%20ray,immediately%20after%20the%20sun%20sets.\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">green flash<\/a>, which I\u2019ve seen several times before, but there was just a little bit too much cloudiness tonight in the very far distance and so I didn\u2019t see it \u2014 reminded me of a famous poem by Henry Van Dyke that is entitled \u201cI Am Standing Upon The Seashore.\u201d\u00a0 Perhaps someone out there will find it particularly helpful because of a current sorrow:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"columns__2\"><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">I am standing upon the seashore.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">A ship at my side spreads her white<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">sails to the morning breeze and starts for the blue ocean.<\/span><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">She is an object of beauty and strength.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">I stand and watch her until at length<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">she hangs like a speck of white cloud<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">just where the sea and sky come<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">to mingle with each other.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">Then, someone at my side says;<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">\u201cThere, she is gone!\u201d\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">\u201cGone where?\u201d<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">Gone from my sight. That is all.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">She is just as large in mast and hull<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">and spar as she was when she left my side<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">and she is just as able to bear her<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">load of living freight to her destined port.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">Her diminished size is in me, not in her.\u00a0<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">And just at the moment when someone<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">at my side says, \u201cThere, she is gone!\u201d<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">There are other eyes watching her coming,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">and other voices ready to take up the glad shout;<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">\u201cHere she comes!\u201d<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">And that is dying.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #6b2247;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And, finally, here are a few items that I\u2019ve drawn from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u00a9:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.acton.org\/archives\/122459-the-impact-of-church-attendance-on-child-development-and-family-life.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe impact of church attendance on child development and family life: Religious attendance is critical not only in the development and raising of children, but for society as a whole.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wltribune.com\/community\/latter-day-saints-hosting-thanksgiving-food-drive-for-salvation-army\/?fbclid=IwAR3CMCmJcihjXdtGc9EX0oHBvgsJFwvPP9zKVSnfZW1amcYt15tB91NWcpM\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cLatter Day Saints hosting Thanksgiving food drive for Salvation Army: Volunteers will be picking up donations Saturday, Sept. 25\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/utah-sees-vax-rate-jump-after-urging-mormon-leaders-conspiracies-may-derail-effort-1628088\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cUtah Sees Vax Rate Jump After Urging of Mormon Leaders, but Conspiracies May Derail Effort\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/beneficiaries-of-church-s-transitional-services-initiative-receive-care-counsel-and-connections-to-rebuild-their-lives\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cBeneficiaries of Church\u2019s Transitional Services Initiative Receive Care, Counsel and Connections to Rebuild their Lives:\u00a0 Each year in Utah, Arizona and Nevada, dozens of Church service missionaries who work for the welfare and self-reliance initiative help thousands of individuals become self-reliant\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/faith\/2021\/9\/27\/22690225\/byu-welcomes-martin-luther-king-iii-race-lds-mormon-civil-rights-black\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow hurricane relief in 2008 led Martin Luther King III to speak at BYU on Tuesday: Martin Luther King III to speak to BYU students about his father\u2019s \u2018beloved community\u2019\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/faith\/2021\/9\/28\/22690260\/martin-luther-king-iii-asks-byu-students-to-rise-up-mormon-later-day-saints-peace-non-violence\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMartin Luther King III asks BYU students to rise up and create his father\u2019s \u2018beloved community\u2019: Martin Luther King Jr.\u2019s oldest son echoed Latter-day Saint themes of charity, service and God\u2019s family during a BYU forum on Tuesday\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.byu.edu\/three-outlets-rank-byu-one-of-the-best-values-in-the-nation\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThree national outlets rank BYU one of the best values in the country: Three Top 10 marks for BYU from Forbes, US News, Princeton Review\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Newport Beach, California<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 *** \u00a0 I call your attention to a pair of newly posted items on the website of the Interpreter Foundation: \u00a0 Audio Roundtable: Come, Follow Me Doctrine and Covenants Lesson 41: \u201cI Will Order All Things for Your Good\u201d: D&amp;C 111-114 The Interpreter Radio Roundtable for Come, Follow Me\u00a0Doctrine and Covenants Lesson 41,\u00a0\u201cI 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