{"id":94112,"date":"2022-02-05T15:12:06","date_gmt":"2022-02-05T22:12:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=94112"},"modified":"2022-02-09T13:12:21","modified_gmt":"2022-02-09T20:12:21","slug":"progress-science-and-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2022\/02\/progress-science-and-religion.html","title":{"rendered":"Progress, Science, and Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_94115\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-94115\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/02\/A730446.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-94115\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/02\/A730446.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"330\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-94115\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Our friend Russell Richins took this photograph off the coast of the Big Island of Hawaii a few days ago. I asked him to send it to me so that I could claim that I had taken it. In the end, though, even I have some minimal and vaguely remembered standards of integrity. So, yes, he took it \u2014 but, well, umm, I taught him how to use a camera. Yeah. That\u2019s it.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If you would like to watch the two-hour video of a <em>Witnesses<\/em>-related event that occurred in Provo, Utah, back on 14 October 2021 without needing to get through Deseret Book\u2019s paywall, you can do so here.\u00a0 The completion of the video and its full going-public were slowed by a nearly tragic external factor that has now, thankfully, been largely overcome:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><a style=\"color: #333399;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ocKUzLOOfsM&amp;list=PLRMn4gyXMWLsQAUwwPvowzyMCsDGEiF_4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cDeseret Book\u2019s \u201cWhat is My Witness\u201d Event\u201d<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">The Interpreter Foundation is pleased to share here a video of an event that Deseret Book and Excel Entertainment sponsored in Provo on 14 October 2021. The event celebrated the release of the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s dramatic film, <em>Witnesses<\/em>, on DVD and via streaming. Most though not quite all of the program was occupied by a conversation onstage led by Tammy Uzelac Hall, who hosts the <em>Sunday on Monday<\/em> podcast for LDS Living. The participants in the conversation, which often responded to clips of specific scenes from the film, were Camrey Bagley Fox (who played Emma Smith), Mark Goodman (the director of <em>Witnesses<\/em>), Lincoln Hoppe (Martin Harris), Daniel Peterson (executive producer), Russell Richins (producer), Caleb Spivak (Oliver Cowdery), and Paul Wuthrich (Joseph Smith Jr.). Also featured on the program were the Truman Brothers, members of the Nashville Tribute Band, who performed four songs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Were you aware that the Interpreter Foundation <em>has<\/em> a YouTube channel?\u00a0 Well, we <em>do<\/em>.\u00a0 And you might find some <em>other<\/em> things on it that will interest you:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/theinterpreterfoundation\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/theinterpreterfoundation<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of the <em>Witnesses <\/em>film, its producer, Russ Richins, has been on vacation over here in Hawaii with his wife.\u00a0 (He took the photograph that I\u2019ve shared above.)\u00a0 We met up with them last night at a restaurant here in Ko Olina.\u00a0 There are very few things in this life that are better than good conversation with good friends over good food.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Critics of religious faith often like to compare it, unfavorably, to science. Science, they say, has cured polio and malaria, sent humans to the moon, created powerful computers, and plumbed the secrets of distant stars and galaxies. Religion has done none of these things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">However, this is a profoundly misguided argument. For one thing, it suggests that only such accomplishments as these have value. Most thinking people, though, would disagree. No sonnet has ever built a bridge. No symphony has ever cured a cancer. Acts of charitable self-sacrifice or selfless caring don\u2019t solve problems in quantum physics. Are such things therefore useless? Very few people would say so: Sonnets and symphonies and kind deeds \u2014 and sculptures, paintings, walks in the woods, and moments spent watching sunsets over the ocean \u2014 have unique and irreplaceable values of their own.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Moreover, the skeptics\u2019 argument seemingly recognizes only fields where tangible progress can be demonstrated. But many important areas of human effort don\u2019t move forward in obvious ways. In literature, for instance, it would be absurd to argue that Henry Morton Robinson\u2019s <em>The Cardinal<\/em>, the best-selling American novel of 1950, is a greater book than Dante\u2019s <em>Divine Comedy<\/em> simply because, at its publication, more than six centuries of literary \u201cprogress\u201d had occurred since Dante\u2019s death. Nineteenth-century chemistry textbooks are obsolete, of course, but the music of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven certainly isn\u2019t. Twenty-first-century literature hasn\u2019t rendered Shakespeare, Goethe, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky irrelevant. John Tavener and Arvo P\u00e4rt haven\u2019t relegated Haydn, Brahms, and Vivaldi to the musical dumpster.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I borrow an illustration from Vatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno\u2019s excellent keynote address to the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s\u00a0<a class=\"sense-link decorated-link\" style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mormoninterpreter.com\/brother-guy-consolmagno-sj-keynote-address-astronomy-god-and-the-search-for-elegance\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-contentid=\"520255\">2016 Science and <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormonism<\/a> Symposium<\/a>: Specialists in astronomy today seldom, if ever, read the works of Ptolemy, Copernicus, and Kepler because, in their technical areas, those pivotal works of Western science have been superseded, replaced. But Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Kant, and Kierkegaard haven\u2019t been replaced or superseded. Their writings are still alive, still richly challenging, and deeply relevant for contemporary reflection on philosophy, literary criticism, and ethics. Charles Darwin, Isaac Newton, Rene Descartes, and David Hume are all enormously important figures in Western intellectual history. But Descartes and Hume continue to be active presences in ongoing debates, whereas \u2014 historically significant as they are \u2014 Darwin and Newton play little if any role in current programs of scientific research.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Furthermore, the skeptics\u2019 argument neglects obvious and fundamental differences between the objects of religious faith and those of scientific inquiry. For instance, science focuses on things that can, at least in principle, be counted and measured; religious faith, like philosophy, historiography, and ethical reflection, does not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ah, the critics will respond, but that\u2019s because the objects of science are real while those of faith are imaginary. And perhaps those critics are willing to say that philosophy, history, and ethics focus on illusions, as well \u2014 though most people, when pressed, would hesitate to say that the distinction between good and evil is mere subjective fantasy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But it could just as easily be \u2014 and arguably is \u2014 the case that the tools of science simply aren\u2019t suited to the treatment of philosophical, ethical, and religious matters. A screwdriver isn\u2019t well-adapted for pounding nails, either, but that fact scarcely means that pounding nails is worthless. A net with a 6-inch mesh is well-fitted for catching tuna, but smaller fish, plankton, and krill will elude it. An odometer will measure quite accurately how far you\u2019ve traveled, but an odometer is utterly worthless for identifying your location or telling you which direction you\u2019re headed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In a 1615 letter to the Grand Duchess Christina of Tuscany, the great Italian Renaissance scientist Galileo Galilei cited a quip that he said he had heard \u201cfrom an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree\u201d (but who remains unidentified): \u201cThe intention of the Holy Spirit is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heavens go.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ideally, science can tell you how to achieve a goal. But it can\u2019t begin to tell you which goals you should pursue. Ethical decisions can\u2019t be determined by weight or by counting electrons. Worldviews aren\u2019t found, as such, in geological strata or quasars or the vascular structure of flowering plants. And science produces bombs and surgical equipment, astronomical telescopes and missile submarine periscopes, pharmaceuticals and poisons, with equal efficiency.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Science is an enormously powerful instrument that has made impressive advances, but part of its effectiveness stems from its deliberately narrow focus. Many of life\u2019s most important issues are flatly beyond its range.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Ko Olina, Oahu, Hawaii<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 *** \u00a0 If you would like to watch the two-hour video of a Witnesses-related event that occurred in Provo, Utah, back on 14 October 2021 without needing to get through Deseret Book\u2019s paywall, you can do so here.\u00a0 The completion of the video and its full going-public were slowed by a nearly tragic [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[909,27893,3706,1230,743,243],"class_list":["post-94112","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-faith","tag-guy-consolmagno","tag-progress","tag-reason","tag-religion","tag-science"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Progress, Science, and Religion<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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