{"id":94557,"date":"2022-03-18T17:21:21","date_gmt":"2022-03-18T23:21:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=94557"},"modified":"2022-03-19T21:04:33","modified_gmt":"2022-03-20T03:04:33","slug":"94557","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2022\/03\/94557.html","title":{"rendered":"\u201cThe Wind and the Fire to Be My Chariot\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_37720\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37720\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/11\/An_Introduction_to_the_Book_of_Abraham.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37720\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/11\/An_Introduction_to_the_Book_of_Abraham.jpg\" alt=\"John Gee's new book's cover\" width=\"500\" height=\"754\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-37720\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The cover of a book written by Professor Gee for a popular audience (Image from Amazon.com)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/the-wind-and-the-fire-to-be-my-chariot-the-anachronism-that-wasnt\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u201cThe Wind and the Fire to Be My Chariot\u201d: The Anachronism that Wasn\u2019t\u201d<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em><strong>Abstract:<\/strong>\u00a0In the Book of Abraham, God tells Abraham in Haran, \u201cI cause the wind and the fire to be my chariot\u201d (Abraham 2:7). While this initially might appear to be an anachronism, as the chariot is normally thought to have been introduced later, archaeological finds of chariots at the site of Harran predate Abraham by hundreds of years.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-not-actually-anachronistic-chariots\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cInterpreting\u00a0<em>Interpreter<\/em>: Not-Actually-Anachronistic Chariots\u201d<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">This post is a summary of the article \u201c\u2018The Wind and the Fire to Be My Chariot\u2019: The Anachronism that Wasn\u2019t\u201d by John Gee in Volume 50 of\u00a0<em>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">The full article can be read at\u00a0<a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/the-wind-and-the-fire-to-be-my-chariot-the-anachronism-that-wasnt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/the-wind-and-the-fire-to-be-my-chariot-the-anachronism-that-wasnt\/<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">An introduction to the Interpreting\u00a0<em>Interpreter<\/em>\u00a0series is available at\u00a0<a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-on-abstracting-thought\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-on-abstracting-thought\/<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201cThe Takeaway: Gee details an item that critics might look to as an anachronism\u2013in this case, a reference to chariots in the Book of Abraham\u2013and demonstrates how the issue disappears upon a closer reading of both the text and the historical record.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">A passage from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keithward.org.uk\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"s1\">Keith Ward<\/span><\/a>, <i>Why There Almost Certainly Is a God: Doubting Dawkins<\/i> (Oxford: Lion, 2008), 22-23:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">[T]he existence of conscious minds introduces a new form of non-scientific explanations for why things happen as they do. \u00a0Scientific explanation, in general, works by referring to some initial state (a \u2019cause\u2019) and a general mathematically describable law. \u00a0That law predicts what regularly follows from the initial state, and it does so without any reference to purpose, value or consciousness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">But there is another sort of explanation. \u00a0The Oxford philosopher Richard Swinburne (Dawkins wrongly calls him a theologian, probably because he disagrees with him so much) calls it \u2018personal explanation\u2019. \u00a0It only comes into effect when persons, or conscious minds, exist. \u00a0Then it explains some of the things that persons do in terms of knowledge, desire, intention and enjoyment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">If you want to explain how it is that I am writing these words, you could do so by showing that I am aware of some possible future states (I can stay in bed, have a coffee, or write these words), I evaluate one of them as desirable (I want to finish this book), I set in motion a causal process to bring about what I desire (I get out of bed), and finally I enjoy what I am doing, because it is what I wanted and desired to do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">This is personal explanation. \u00a0It is a perfectly satisfactory form of explanation, and it does not seem to be reducible to scientific explanation. \u00a0If it is, no one has yet plausibly suggested any idea of how to reduce it. \u00a0How can my talk of knowledge, desires, intentions and awareness translate into statements of physics that only refer to physical states and general laws of their behaviour?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">I conclude, like most philosophers, that if conscious knowledge, desire, intention and enjoyment exist, then personal explanation is a sort of explanation that we need, one that is truly explanatory, that is quite different from scientific (purely physical) explanation, and that is not reducible to or translatable into scientific explanation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">I do not think Dawkins agrees with this. \u00a0I was flattered to find myself mentioned in his book, but puzzled when he said, \u2018Like Swinburne, Ward mistakes what it means to explain something.\u2019 \u00a0However, Swinburne and I are not making a mistake. \u00a0We are claiming that there is more than one sort of explanation for why things happen as they do. \u00a0Scientific explanation in terms of physical causes and general laws is one sort of explanation. \u00a0Personal explanation in terms of desires and intentions is another.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">A note from George Johnson, <i>Miss Leavitt\u2019s Stars: The Untold Story of the Woman Who Discovered How to Measure the Universe<\/i> (New York and London: W. W. Norton and Company, 2005), 7-8:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">[A]stronomers can say with some confidence that our own galaxy, the Milky Way, is more than 100,000 light-years from end to end and that Andromeda, the galaxy across the street, is 2 million light-years away. \u00a0These and several other galaxies form our \u201cLocal Group.\u201d \u00a0The neighborhood. \u00a0Just across town are other conglomerations of galaxies like the Sculptor group and the Maffei group, nearly 10 million light-years in distance. \u00a0A little farther are the Virgo and Fornax clusters, lying some 50 million light-years from the Milky Way. \u00a0Even if these were miles, the numbers would be staggering. \u00a0A single light-year is almost 6 trillion miles.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">We still haven\u2019t left our hometown \u201csupercluster,\u201d a galaxy of galaxies a full 200 million light-years across. \u00a0Beyond it lie more superclusters, stretching to the edge of the visible universe, 10 billion or so light-years from home.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Faced with so grandiose a vision, it is a little surprising to learn that as recently as the 1920s many astronomers thought the Milky Way <i>was<\/i> the universe. \u00a0Whether there was anything beyond it was a matter of scholarly debate. \u00a0What are now taken to be vast galaxies similar to our own were dismissed as small nearby gas clouds, insignificant smudges of light.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I\u2019ve shared a number of such passages here in an attempt to help readers \u2014 and, emphatically, to help myself \u2014 grasp to at least some small and insignificant degree the unimaginable vastness of the cosmos.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201cThe most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead \u2014his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms\u2014this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.\u201d \u00a0(Albert Einstein)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201cThe heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.\u201d \u00a0(Psalm 19:1)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Such thoughts, it seems to me, are especially appropriate for the approaching Sabbath.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from St. George, Utah<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 *** \u00a0 \u201c\u201cThe Wind and the Fire to Be My Chariot\u201d: The Anachronism that Wasn\u2019t\u201d Abstract:\u00a0In the Book of Abraham, God tells Abraham in Haran, \u201cI cause the wind and the fire to be my chariot\u201d (Abraham 2:7). 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