{"id":95268,"date":"2022-06-02T16:37:07","date_gmt":"2022-06-02T22:37:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=95268"},"modified":"2022-06-03T15:38:23","modified_gmt":"2022-06-03T21:38:23","slug":"in-the-footsteps-of-roland-and-charlemagne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2022\/06\/in-the-footsteps-of-roland-and-charlemagne.html","title":{"rendered":"In the footsteps of Roland and Charlemagne"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_95270\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-95270\" style=\"width: 512px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/06\/682px-Bordeaux-Quinconces-Carnaval-2011-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-95270\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/06\/682px-Bordeaux-Quinconces-Carnaval-2011-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Near where our boat sitsw.\" width=\"512\" height=\"768\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-95270\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bordeaux (France), place des Quinconces et Monument aux Girondins<br>(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here are two new items from the webpage of the Interpreter Foundation:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-may-8-2022\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Interpreter Radio Show \u2014 May 8, 2022<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In this episode of the Interpreter Radio Show, Terry Hutchinson and John Gee first discuss processes vs. results and how that distinction relates to our spiritual journey. Later, they talk about Emmeline B. Wells, a prominent figure in the Church of Jesus Christ\u2019s latest volume, <i>Saints, Volume 3: Boldly, Nobly, and Independent, 1893-1955<\/i>.\u00a0 The second portion of the show is given over to a roundtable discussing the upcoming Come Follow Me lesson #25 (1 Samuel 8\u201310, 13, 15\u201318). The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640.\u00a0 Or, as an alternative, you can listen live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-may-15-2022\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Interpreter Radio Show \u2014 May 15, 2022<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In this installment of the Interpreter Radio Show, Bruce Webster and Mike Parker and Kris Frederickson discuss the miniseries <i>Under the Banner of Heaven<\/i> and how to raise our children in the age of social media.\u00a0 The first portion of the show, however, is a roundtable discussing the upcoming Come Follow Me lesson #26 (2 Samuel 5\u20137; 11\u201312; 1 Kings 3; 8; 11). The weekly\u00a0 Interpreter Radio Show can be heard live each and every Sunday evening from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640.\u00a0 If, though, that option doesn\u2019t work for you, you can hear it live on the Internet via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Given my current location, today seems an entirely appropriate time to share a link to this article:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/2022\/5\/30\/23100416\/the-new-prohibitionists-alcohol-health-benefits-sober-living\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe new prohibitionists: Many scientists are rethinking the alleged health benefits of alcohol\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div id=\"content-area\" class=\"clearfix\">\n<div id=\"left-area\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>And, in other science news:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/how-science-has-won-the-abortion-debate-and-why-democrats-choose-to-ignore-it?cid=rp&amp;fbclid=IwAR0flzUvDZI768aXyiJwj_1hIedj2ARkqrRsd2KlJdpFrsjIEAevR2nZXu4&amp;mid=f&amp;xid=0&amp;utm_content=creative01140_subscriptions&amp;utm_medium=paid&amp;utm_source=facebook&amp;utm_campaign=rp_roe\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow Science Has Won The Abortion Debate (And Why Democrats Choose To Ignore It)\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This next item isn\u2019t really about science, but it <em>is<\/em> about abortion, and so I justify its placement on the basis of Wittgenstein\u2019s notion of \u201cfamily resemblance\u201d or \u201cfamily likeness\u201d (<em>Familien\u00e4hnlichehkeit<\/em>):<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/debunking-the-ten-most-common-pro-abortion-arguments?cid=rp&amp;fbclid=IwAR0IdTODVzfLR8DoFE5a5LNd-jwSZRPFIPGJvgVxjjQ_IR0ZMC8IMMtIHiM&amp;mid=f&amp;xid=0&amp;utm_content=creative01141_subscriptions&amp;utm_medium=paid&amp;utm_source=facebook&amp;utm_campaign=rp_roe\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cDebunking The Ten Most Common Pro-Abortion Arguments\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #333399;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Some of you might find this of interest:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/878021\/a-simple-line-from-number-six-brought-religion-to-battlestar-galactica\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cA Simple Line From Number Six Brought Religion To Battlestar Galactica\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_95273\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-95273\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/06\/Chateau_de_Roquetaillade-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-95273\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2022\/06\/Chateau_de_Roquetaillade-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"448\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-95273\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Ch\u00e2teau de Roquetaillade, in Maz\u00e8res, Gironde, France<br>(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #333399;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Our boat is docked directly adjacent to a park on the bank of the Garonne River, and I look out from my veranda at the Place des Quinconces and the Monument aux Girondins, which are not far to my left.\u00a0 (See the image at the top of this blog entry.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This afternoon, we joined a tour out to the Ch\u00e2teau de Roquetaillade, a castle in Maz\u00e8res that, like Bourdeaux itself, is located in the French <em>d\u00e9partement<\/em> of Gironde.\u00a0 The first fortification on the site, of which only ruins now survive, was constructed by the Emperor Charlemagne, who built it while he was on his way to battle the invading Muslims or Saracens in the Pyrenees with his faithful retainer Roland (the hero of both the anonymous eleventh-century <em>Chanson de Roland<\/em>\u00a0[the \u201cSong of Roland\u201d], the oldest surviving work of French literature and France\u2019s national epic, and Ludovico Ariosto\u2019s sixteenth-century Italian epic poem <em>Orlando Furioso<\/em> [literally, something like \u201cRaging Roland]).<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Then Cardinal Gaillard de la Mothe came along.\u00a0 He was the nephew of Clement V, who reigned from June 1305 to his death in June 1314.\u00a0 It was Clement V who suppressed the Knights Templar and who, notoriously, moved the seat of the papacy to Avignon in today\u2019s France, where it remained from 1309 to 1376 \u2014 and even longer, if one counts a later series of \u201canti-popes.\u201d\u00a0 In 1306, flush with cash as a close relative of the reigning pope, Cardinal de la Mothe built a second fortress directly adjacent to Charlemagne\u2019s original with the permission of the English King Edward I, who controlled the area at the time.\u00a0 This second fortress is <i>le Ch\u00e2teau Neuf<\/i>, the \u201cnew castle,\u201d which is the structure on which we focused today.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The family that currently lives in the Ch\u00e2teau de Roquetaillade has occupied it for seven hundred years.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I <em>love<\/em> history!<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>***<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I glanced a bit today at the Wikipedia article on Bordeaux, and particularly at the article\u2019s list of prominent people who have historically been associated with the city.\u00a0 I halfway expected to find the great French Catholic convert and philosopher Jacques Maritain, who wrote a book at the age of eighty-five that he titled, referring to himself, <em>The Peasant of the Garonne<\/em>.\u00a0 But I didn\u2019t.\u00a0 It turns out that he was born in Paris.\u00a0 Nonetheless, the list of those who come from Bordeaux proper is still rather impressive, including such figures as<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the dramatist Jean Anouilh (1910-1987)<\/li>\n<li>Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122\u20131204), the duchess of Aquitaine (1137-1204), queen of France (1137-1152, as the wife Louis VII), and queen of England (1154-1189, as the wife of King Henry II), who was memorably portrayed by Katharine Hepburn (the third of her four Best Actress Oscars) in the 1968 film\u00a0<i>The Lion in Winter<\/i>, alongside the great Peter O\u2019Toole as Henry II. And Glenn Close played her in a\u00a02003 television film version, alongside\u00a0Patrick Stewart as King Henry.<\/li>\n<li>the sociologist and theologian Jacques Ellul (1912-1994)<\/li>\n<li>the winner of the 1952 Nobel Prize for Literature, Fran\u00e7ois Mauriac (1885\u20131970)<\/li>\n<li>the great essayist\u00a0Michel de Montaigne (1533\u20131592)<\/li>\n<li>the political philosopher\u00a0Montesquieu (1689\u20131755), who powerfully influenced the American Founders<\/li>\n<li>King Richard II of England (1367\u20131400)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Included on the list, too, was this, which both surprised and pleased me:\u00a0 \u201c<a title=\"G\u00e9rald Causs\u00e9\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/G%C3%A9rald_Causs%C3%A9\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">G\u00e9rald Causs\u00e9<\/a>, Presiding Bishop of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #333399;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I close with three quite irrelevant but (to me) interesting quotations from Brent L. Top, <em>What\u2019s On the Other Side? What the Gospel Teaches Us about the Spirit World<\/em> (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2012).\u00a0 I read it quite some time ago, but think that some of you, too, will enjoy them:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>I have a father, brothers, children, and friends who have gone to the world of spirits. \u00a0They are only absent for a moment. \u00a0They are in the spirit, and we shall soon meet again. . . . \u00a0When we depart [from this life], we shall hail our mothers, fathers, friends, and all whom we love, who have fallen asleep in Jesus. . . . \u00a0It will be an eternity of felicity.<\/strong> \u00a0(Joseph Smith, cited on pages 42-43)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>We have more friends behind the vail than on this side, and they will hail us more joyfully than you were ever welcomed by your parents and friends in this world; and you will rejoice more when you meet them than you ever rejoiced to see a friend in this life.<\/strong> \u00a0(Brigham Young, cited on page 43)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>What is more desirable than that we should meet with our fathers and our mothers, with our brethren and our sisters, with our wives and our children, with our beloved associates and kindred in the spirit world, knowing each other, identifying each other . . . by the associations that familiarize each to the other in mortal life? \u00a0What do you want better than that? \u00a0What is there for any religion superior to that? \u00a0I know of nothing.<\/strong> \u00a0(Joseph F. Smith, cited on page 43)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from the bank of the Garonne River in Bordeaux, France<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 *** \u00a0 Here are two new items from the webpage of the Interpreter Foundation: \u00a0 Interpreter Radio Show \u2014 May 8, 2022 In this episode of the Interpreter Radio Show, Terry Hutchinson and John Gee first discuss processes vs. results and how that distinction relates to our spiritual journey. 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