{"id":97905,"date":"2022-12-15T14:15:21","date_gmt":"2022-12-15T21:15:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=97905"},"modified":"2022-12-16T20:32:40","modified_gmt":"2022-12-17T03:32:40","slug":"are-logic-and-mathematics-purely-rational-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2022\/12\/are-logic-and-mathematics-purely-rational-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Are logic and mathematics purely rational? (2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26114\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26114\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Redrosedust_wright_f2000.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-26114\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Redrosedust_wright_f2000.jpg\" alt=\"A photo of the Rosette Nebula\" width=\"597\" height=\"419\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26114\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Rosette Nebula (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, I posted a brief preliminary note inspired by and drawing upon Michael Guillen\u2019s <em>Believing is Seeing: A Physicist Explains How Science Shattered His Atheism and Revealed the Necessity of Faith<\/em> (Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale Refresh, 2021).\u00a0 It concerned the modern collapse of confidence in the \u201ccertainty\u201d of mathematics and logic, which have surely seemed the most certain of all human intellectual pursuits.\u00a0 But I didn\u2019t finish my note, and so I continue it here.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This is Michael Guillen himself speaking, summarizing the implications of Kurt G\u00f6del\u2019s famous (infamous?) \u201cincompleteness theorem,\u201d which was mentioned in yesterday\u2019s blog entry:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Whenever you try thinking logically about a complicated subject, one of two things will always happen:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Possibility #1:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ll say and believe something that\u2019s genuinely true, but you\u2019ll never be able to <em>prove<\/em> it.\u00a0 No matter how hard you try, logic will fail you because logic is not powerful enough to do the job.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">The late Swiss-American logician Verena Huber-Dyson put it this way:\u00a0 \u201cThere is more to <em>truth<\/em> than can be caught by <em>proof.<\/em>\u201d\u00a0 I prefer simply saying, <em>Truth is bigger than proof<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Possibility #2:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ll <em>prove<\/em> something is true using seemingly air-tight logic; but in fact, it\u2019s not so.\u00a0 Even though your logic seems rigorous, it isn\u2019t; it\u2019s riddled with stealthy paradoxes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">As Morris Kline, the renowned American mathematician, wrote in his textbook <em>Mathematics for the Nonmathematician<\/em>, \u201cLogic is the art of going wrong with confidence.\u201d\u00a0 (112)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bertrand Russell had spotted a lethal logical error in the first pages of Gottlob Frege\u2019s massive <em>Grundgesetze der Arithmetik<\/em> and, now, Kurt G\u00f6del had identified an even more fundamental error, not only in Bertrand Russell\u2019s (and Alfred North Whitehead\u2019s) similarly ambitious <em>Principia Mathematica<\/em> but at the foundation of mathematics and logic themselves.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wanted certainty in the kind of way in which people want religious faith,\u201d the vocally and famously atheistic Russell mourned late in his life in <em>Portraits from Memory<\/em>.\u00a0 \u201cI thought that certainty is more likely to be found in mathematics than elsewhere.\u00a0 But . . . after some twenty years of very arduous toil, I came to the conclusion that there was nothing more that <em>I<\/em> could do in the way of making mathematical knowledge indubitable.\u201d\u00a0 (113)<\/p>\n<p>What are the implications?\u00a0 Guillen mentions three:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kurt G\u00f6del\u2019s work seriously undermines attempts to find an overarching \u201ctheory of everything\u201d \u2014 for example, the \u201cgrand unified theory\u201d that would pull together a single coherent explanation of the four fundamental forces of nature (gravity, electromagnetism, the \u201cstrong force,\u201d and the \u201cweak force\u201d), that would reconcile relativity with quantum theory \u2014 that some have described as the \u201choly grail\u201d of physics.\u00a0 Albert Einstein devoted his last years to a pursuit of such a \u201ctheory of everything,\u201d but he failed in frustration.\u00a0 G\u00f6del\u2019s incompleteness theorem suggests that, if logic lacks the power to describe arithmetic, it may also not possess the power to exhaustively and self-consistently describe the entire universe.<\/li>\n<li>G\u00f6del\u2019s theorem easily allows for the possibility that the proposition \u201cGod exists\u201d might be both true and, at the same time, impossible to prove by logic alone.\u00a0 (\u201cTruth is bigger than proof.\u201d)\u00a0 If logic can\u2019t finally account for arithmetic, the ultimate question of God may well elude it as well.<\/li>\n<li>Mathematics itself, once thought the most certain of human disciplines, requires faith in axioms that are not only unproven but, ultimately, unprovable.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Guillen closes this portion of his discussion by citing John Barrow, an eminent mathematician at the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom, from his book <em>The Artful Universe<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">If a \u2018religion\u2019 is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable statements, then G\u00f6del taught us that mathematics is not only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.\u00a0 (114)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Guillen then goes on to discuss \u201cfaith in axioms.\u201d\u00a0 He notes that Aristotle\u2019s logic and Euclid\u2019s geometry, two of the greatest intellectual achievements of the ancient world, achievements that are still rightly influential even today, rest on axioms that can reasonably be rejected.<\/p>\n<p>That is why, today, there are non-Aristotelian logics such as \u201cthree-valued logic\u201d (in which <em>x<\/em> can be true or false or unknown) and \u201cfour-valued logic\u201d (in which <em>x<\/em> can be true, or false, or true <em>and<\/em> false, or unknown), and so-called \u201cfuzzy logic\u201d (with an infinite number of truth values).\u00a0 (Despite its silly name, \u201cfuzzy logic\u201d has practical, real-world applications, even in such familiar things as antilock brakes.)<\/p>\n<p>And that is why there are non-Euclidian geometries (e.g., spherical geometries, hyperbolic geometries, and the Riemannian geometries used in Einstein\u2019s theory of general relativity).<\/p>\n<p>But there is yet another paradox.\u00a0 Even though logic and mathematics rest on unavoidably uncertain foundations, they remain spectacularly successful in describing the physical world.\u00a0 This astonished Albert Einstein:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">How can it be that mathematics, being after all a product of human thought which is independent of experience, is so admirably appropriate to the objects of reality?\u00a0 (117)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And, in 1960, a Hungarian-American mathematician and physicist by the name of Eugene Wigner (who would himself win a Nobel Prize shortly thereafter) published a justly famous essay in which he argued that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">the enormous usefulness of mathematics in the natural sciences is something bordering on the mysterious and . . . there is no rational explanation for it.\u00a0 (117)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Still, there is the question of uncertainty in mathematics and logic.\u00a0 So far as I\u2019m aware, proofs are still at the heart of high school geometry classes.\u00a0 In high-level professional mathematics, though, such short and simple and definitive demonstrations are largely gone.\u00a0 Here\u2019s what John Horgan had to say back in October 1993, in an article in <em>Scientific American<\/em> entitled \u201cThe Death of Proof: Computers are transforming the way mathematicians discover, prove and communicate ideas, but is there a place for absolute certainty in this brave new world?\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">For millennia, mathematicians have measured progress in terms of what they can demonstrate through proofs \u2014 that is, a series of logical steps leading from a set of axioms to an irrefutable conclusion.\u00a0 Now the doubts riddling modern human thought have finally infected mathematics.\u00a0 (118)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Back to Michael Guillen:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201cI think that we\u2019re now inescapably in an age where the large statements of mathematics are so complex that we may never know for sure whether they\u2019re true or false,\u201d says Keith Devlin, a British mathematician at Stanford University.\u00a0 \u201cThat puts us in the same boat as all the other scientists.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">As of this writing, the longest mathematical proof in history was produced in 2016 by three humans and a supercomputer that resides in an 11,000-square-foot building at the University of Texas at Austin.\u00a0 The supercomputer, Stampede, is an electronic behemoth that feeds on three megawatts of electric power.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Stampede, et al.\u2019s record-setting proof is <em>200 terrabytes long<\/em>.\u00a0 That\u2019s the digital equivalent of the entire US Library of Congress.\u00a0 It would take ten billion years (nearly the age of the universe) simply to read it \u2014 and even longer to validate each step.\u00a0 (119)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What seems to be shown by all of this is that. if we wish to fully understand the physical universe at the macrocosmic and microcosmic levels, we must embrace logic and mathematics . . .\u00a0 \u00a0but that logic and mathematics can deliver neither an exhaustive and self-consistent account of themselves nor, therefore, of the cosmos overall.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The summary above \u2014 a first pass on the topic for a larger future project \u2014 is based upon pages 112-119 of Guillen, <em>Believing is Seeing<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>P.S.\u00a0 In response to yesterday\u2019s blog entry, the computer scientist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ringger\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eric Ringger<\/a> kindly called my attention to a very interesting 34-minute video entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMath\u2019s Fundamental Flaw.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Yesterday, I posted a brief preliminary note inspired by and drawing upon Michael Guillen\u2019s Believing is Seeing: A Physicist Explains How Science Shattered His Atheism and Revealed the Necessity of Faith (Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale Refresh, 2021).\u00a0 It concerned the modern collapse of confidence in the \u201ccertainty\u201d of mathematics and logic, which have 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