{"id":98355,"date":"2023-01-19T20:32:09","date_gmt":"2023-01-20T03:32:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=98355"},"modified":"2023-01-23T16:53:29","modified_gmt":"2023-01-23T23:53:29","slug":"a-moslem-fought-an-infidel-one-day-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2023\/01\/a-moslem-fought-an-infidel-one-day-2.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;A Moslem fought an infidel one day&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_61337\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-61337\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2018\/05\/Giverny_-_panoramio.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-61337\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2018\/05\/Giverny_-_panoramio.jpg\" alt=\"Giverny, with colors!\" width=\"596\" height=\"388\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-61337\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A view of Monet\u2019s garden at Giverny, by Art Anderson (Wikimedia Commons public domain image) Since I have no photographs of Eden or Paradise, this will have to do for now.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>These three pieces have gone up quite recently on the website of the Interpreter Foundation:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/conference-talks-science-and-genesis-a-personal-view\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Conference Talks: \u201cScience and Genesis: A Personal View,\u201d<\/a> originally presented in 2013 by <a href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/author\/jeff\/?journal\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jeffrey M. Bradshaw<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Given their status as targets of humor and caricature, the well-worn stories of Adam, Eve, and Noah are difficult for many people to take seriously. However, we do an injustice both to these marvelous records and to ourselves when we fail to pursue an appreciation of scripture beyond the initial level of cartoon cut-outs inculcated upon the minds of young children. In this chapter, Jeffrey M. Bradshaw shares five personal lessons learned from the Book of Moses and Genesis 1-11.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-new-testament-in-context-lesson-5\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe New Testament in Context Lesson 5: <em>\u201cPrepare Ye the Way of the Lord\u201d\u201d<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In the 18 December 2022 <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> segment of the Interpreter Radio Show,\u00a0 Bruce Webster and Kris Frederickson discussed New Testament lesson 5, covering Matthew 3, Mark 1, and Luke 3.\u00a0 The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640, or you can listen live on the Internet at\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-study-aids-new-testament-2023-lesson-5\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> \u2014 New Testament Study and Teaching Helps: Lesson 5, January 23 \u2014 January 29: Matthew 3; Mark 1; Luke 3 \u2014\u00a0<em>\u201cPrepare Ye the Way of the Lord\u201d<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Once again, as he has so generously done week after week, Jonn Claybaugh provides students and teachers of the Church\u2019s \u201cCome, Follow Me\u201d curriculum with a concise but helpful set of notes.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #003300;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Oh.\u00a0 Now this one really hurts:\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/nl.nytimes.com\/f\/newsletter\/FgMCweCx49NAz0PFzXA2rg~~\/AAAAAQA~\/RgRlrGPeP0ThaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMy8wMS8xOS9hcnRzL211c2ljL2RhdmlkLWNyb3NieS1kZWFkLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9NjAmZW1jPWVkaXRfbmFfMjAyMzAxMTkmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9MCZubD1icmVha2luZy1uZXdzJnJlZj1oZWFkbGluZSZyZWdpX2lkPTIwNDY5MDkxNiZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTEyMjk2OCZ1c2VyX2lkPTk3NzUxOTNhYTlhYzI1NGE5Y2I2ODdkMzdhZDc5YWI3VwNueXRCCmPI3t7JYzZEP_lSHGRhbmllbGNhcmxwZXRlcnNvbkBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">\u201cDavid Crosby, an original member of the Byrds and a founder of Crosby, Stills, Nash &amp; Young, has died. He was 81.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 When I was just a lad, I saw the Byrds in concert at the Long Beach Sports Arena (or whatever it was called).\u00a0 My brother had to drive me and my friend.\u00a0 They followed \u201cPaul Revere and the Raiders,\u201d who had one or two hits at the time, and they were followed by the Rolling Stones, who had just released \u201cSatisfaction\u201d shortly before.\u00a0 (So this must have been 1965.)\u00a0 I was there at least as much for the Byrds as for the Stones.\u00a0 I was a major fan.\u00a0 I may still have the paper that I wrote about \u201cfolk rock\u201d and the Byrds back in seventh or eighth grade, complete with illustrations clipped out of magazines and newspapers and painstakingly affixed with rubber cement.\u00a0 I followed the members of the Byrds after they broke up.\u00a0 They would sometimes perform at the Ice House in Pasadena, where I was a regular.\u00a0 Specifically, I recall hearing Chris Clark several times, as well as David Crosby himself.\u00a0 Once, I met Crosby as he was leaving the club after a performance and we had a brief while he was sitting on his motorcycle.\u00a0 Then he joined up with Crosby, Stills, Nash &amp; Young.\u00a0 Wonderful.\u00a0 These people were heroes of mine.\u00a0 Icons.\u00a0 And, in my memory, they\u2019re still eternally young.\u00a0 Until they\u2019re not.\u00a0 David Crosby.\u00a0 Dead at eighty-one.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31268\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31268\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/02\/800px-Nishapur_Farid_ad-Din_Attar.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-31268\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/02\/800px-Nishapur_Farid_ad-Din_Attar.jpg\" alt=\"Qabr \u2018Attar\" width=\"596\" height=\"382\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31268\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The mausoleum of Farid al-Din Attar in Nishapur, Iran<br>(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/Deification%20in%20the%20'Conference%20of%20the%20Birds'\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Farid al-Din Attar<\/a>, who died in the early thirteenth century, is one of the greatest of all Muslim mystics. \u00a0His most famous work is a lengthy allegorical poem entitled <em>Mantiq al-Tayr<\/em>, which is typically rendered in English as <em>The Conference of the Birds<\/em> or <em>The Parliament of the Birds<\/em>. \u00a0It\u2019s full of little sermonettes and stories and exhortations, subordinate to the overall plot of the story that it relates. \u00a0Here is one of them, as\u00a0translated by\u00a0<span class=\"author notFaded\" data-width=\"\">Afkham Darbandi\u00a0and Dick Davis:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">A Moslem fought an infidel one day<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">And as they fought requested time to pray.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">He prayed and fought again \u2013 the infidel<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Then asked for time to say his prayers as well;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">He went aside to find a cleaner place<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">And therefore his idol bowed his face.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The Moslem, when he saw him kneel and bow,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Said: \u201cVictory is mine if I strike now.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">But as he raised his sword for that last stroke,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">A warning voice from highest heaven spoke:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">\u201cO vicious wretch \u2013 from head to foot deceit \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">What promises are these, you faithless cheat?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">His blade was sheathed when you asked him for time;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">For you to strike him now would be a crime \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Have you not read in Our Koran the verse<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">\u2018Fulfill your promises\u2019?\u00a0 And will you curse<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The word you gave?\u00a0 The infidel was true;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">He kept his promises, and so should you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">You offer evil in return for good \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">With others act as to yourself you would!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The infidel kept faith with you, and where<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Is your fidelity, for all your prayer?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">You are a Moslem, but false piety<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Is less than this poor pagan\u2019s loyalty.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The Moslem heard this speech and went apart;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Sweat poured from him, remorse accused his heart.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The pagan saw him as if spell-bound stand,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Tears in his eyes, his sword still in his hand,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">And asked: \u201cWhy do you weep?\u201d\u00a0 The man replied:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">\u201cMy shame is not a matter I can hide\u201d \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">He told him of the voice that he had heard<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Reproaching him when he would break his word,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">And ending said: \u201cMy tears anticipate<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">The fury of your vengeance and your hate.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">But when the infidel had heard this tale,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">His eyes were filled with tears, his face turned pale \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">\u201cGod censures you for your disloyalty<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">And guards the life of His sworn enemy \u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Can I continue to be faithless now?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">I\u2019ll burn my gods, to Allah I will bow,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Expound His law!\u00a0 Too long my heart has lain<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003300;\">In darkness bound by superstition\u2019s chain.\u201d\u00a0 (137-138)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #003300;\">***<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Finally, though, here are three deliciously offensive links that I\u2019ve retrieved, for your indignation and terror, from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u00a9:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/church-celebrates-10-year-collaboration-with-unicef\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cChurch Celebrates 10-Year Collaboration With UNICEF:\u00a0UNICEF USA leaders tour Church humanitarian sites in Salt Lake City\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/sisters-browning-and-yee-minister-in-st-louis-in-celebration-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-day\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cSisters Browning and Yee Minister in St. Louis in Celebration of Martin Luther King Jr. Day:\u00a0Thousands of families receive groceries during a drive-thru food drive\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.barrons.com\/articles\/life-expectancy-drugs-alcohol-religion-deaths-of-despair-51674059739\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cRise in Middle-Aged White \u2018Deaths of Despair\u2019 May Be Fueled by Loss of Religion, New Research Paper Argues\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 These three pieces have gone up quite recently on the website of the Interpreter Foundation: \u00a0 Conference Talks: \u201cScience and Genesis: A Personal View,\u201d originally presented in 2013 by Jeffrey M. 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