{"id":11624,"date":"2017-05-08T15:44:10","date_gmt":"2017-05-08T19:44:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=11624"},"modified":"2017-05-08T15:45:55","modified_gmt":"2017-05-08T19:45:55","slug":"debate-pro-life-republican-party-leadership","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/05\/debate-pro-life-republican-party-leadership.html","title":{"rendered":"Debate: How Pro-Life is the Republican Party (Esp. the Leadership)?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11625 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2017\/05\/Embryo9-10weeks-201x300.jpg\" alt=\"Embryo9-10weeks\" width=\"201\" height=\"300\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Embryo: 9-10 weeks. Photograph by \u201clunar caustic\u201d (12-20-07)<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/lunarcaustic\/2128618333\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Flickr <\/a>\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC BY-SA 2.0<\/a> license]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Someone put up\u00a0a meme that read: \u201cDems: Worshiping Moloch While Pretending Not to Worship Mammon \/ GOP: Worshiping Mammon While Pretending Not to Worship Moloch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s silly to claim that the GOP is pretending to be pro-life, seeing that it\u00a0has brought about numerous restrictions on abortion at the state level, thus leading to saving tens of thousands of babies. And how and why could that happen if the GOP as a whole and many individual Republicans aren\u2019t serious about abortion?<\/p>\n<p><span data-ft='{\"tn\":\"K\"}'><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">I would hardly call the saving of tens of thousands of lives merely \u201ctossing bones\u201d (as one critic put it). The party is everyone in it, not just the leadership.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>See:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mercatornet.com\/articles\/view\/tweaking_the_law_works\/12564\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tweaking the law works: Patient, incremental change in US abortion laws really does save lives. Thousands of them<\/a> (James S. Cole, <em>Mercatornet<\/em>, 8-5-13)<\/p>\n<p>Excerpt: \u201cSuch efforts have saved many hundreds of thousands of lives over the years, including not just unborn infants\u2019 lives but women\u2019s lives as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The President is the leader of the national GOP, and he is getting rave reviews from the National Right to Life Committee, for his first 100 days:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2017\/04\/28\/president-donald-trump-gets-an-a-on-pro-life-issues-during-his-first-100-days-in-office\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">President Donald Trump Gets an A+ on Pro-Life Issues During His First 100 Days in Office<\/a> (Steven Ertelt, <em>LifeNews<\/em>, 4-28-17)<\/p>\n<p>Pro-life leaders have been almost ecstatically praising the President\u2019s actions regarding the pro-life cause:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www1.cbn.com\/cbnnews\/politics\/2017\/april\/100-days-of-unexpected-victories-how-trumps-been-a-game-changer-for-pro-life-movement\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">100 Days of Unexpected Victories: How Trump\u2019s Been a Game Changer for Pro-Life Movement<\/a> (Paul Strand, <em>CBN News<\/em>, 4-29-17)<\/p>\n<p>A person claimed that Chris Christie only recently became an avowed pro-lifer (for mere political expediency). In fact, Christie has been <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ontheissues.org\/2016\/Chris_Christie_Abortion.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">pro-life since the late 1990s <\/a>(hardly a recent about-face). As I\u2019ve noted many times, Ronald Reagan signed into law an abortion bill in California that eventually allowed 200,000 abortion murders. That was just 13 years before he won the presidency (with his VP switching just before assuming office). Both Reagan and elder Bush had good pro-life records after their change of opinion.\u00a0With Christie, we\u2019re talking about his changing about twenty years ago.<\/p>\n<p>People can change their minds. In my own life I have had at least four major conversions:<\/p>\n<p><span data-ft='{\"tn\":\"K\"}'><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">1) From nominal Methodism and devotee of occultism to evangelicalism (1977).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>2) From very socially liberal political liberal to conservative (1980).<\/p>\n<p>3) From pro-choice to pro-life (1982).<\/p>\n<p>4) From evangelical to Catholic (1990).<\/p>\n<p>5) I also consciously became a distributist in the last few years, though arguably I have been one for a long, long time. I just figured out that I was, as a result of long talks in person with Rod Bennett. :-)<\/p>\n<p><span data-ft='{\"tn\":\"K\"}'><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">It appears that many who are pro-life do not <strong><em>want\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>to believe that great pro-life things are happening. That\u2019s a curious attitude, but I understand where it comes from, because I\u2019ve observed t<\/span><\/span><span data-offset-key=\"9ei8l-0-0\"><span data-text=\"true\">he fashionable rhetoric of the so-called \u201c<em>New<\/em> Pro-Life Movement\u201d and the\u00a0tired third-party \u201cTweedle Dee \/ Tweedle Dum\u201d polemics. They simply do not stand up to the facts of the matter as regards recent pro-life gains. It\u2019s wrong for a pro-lifer to resent or flat-out <em>deny<\/em> pro-life progress\u00a0that has saved many thousands of lives, because he or she\u00a0may personally detest President\u00a0Trump and\/or may have dissed the Republican Party in order to pursue some irrelevant, meaningless third-party cause.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a very odd and morally dubious variation of sour grapes. Time was, when all pro-lifers stood together and rejoiced at lives being saved, regardless of what politician or what political party may have played a role in bringing it about. The devil has been very successful in his dirty work of dividing pro-lifers. But despite useful idiots in our camp (whose rhetoric is scarcely distinguishable from pro-abort talking-points), lives are still being\u00a0saved . . .<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cgjnk\" data-offset-key=\"8ob58-0-0\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cgjnk\" data-offset-key=\"amdru-0-0\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"cgjnk\" data-offset-key=\"49k9b-0-0\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Embryo: 9-10 weeks. Photograph by \u201clunar caustic\u201d (12-20-07) [Flickr \/ CC BY-SA 2.0 license] ***** Someone put up\u00a0a meme that read: \u201cDems: Worshiping Moloch While Pretending Not to Worship Mammon \/ GOP: Worshiping Mammon While Pretending Not to Worship Moloch.\u201d ***** It\u2019s silly to claim that the GOP is pretending to be pro-life, seeing that 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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