{"id":12954,"date":"2017-08-16T14:04:31","date_gmt":"2017-08-16T18:04:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=12954"},"modified":"2017-08-16T14:07:47","modified_gmt":"2017-08-16T18:07:47","slug":"us-weird-catholic-apologists-real-jobs-oughtta-get","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/08\/us-weird-catholic-apologists-real-jobs-oughtta-get.html","title":{"rendered":"Us Weird Catholic Apologists &#038; the &#8220;Real Jobs&#8221; We Oughtta Get!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-12955 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2017\/08\/AssemblyLine.jpg\" alt=\"AssemblyLine\" width=\"680\" height=\"600\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Workers on the first moving assembly line put together magnetos and flywheels for 1913 Ford autos in Highland Park, Michigan<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Ford_assembly_line_-_1913.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0(3-23-06)<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0This is loosely based on an exchange with a Catholic. The words of the usual criticisms heard in this regard will be in <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p>* * * * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Apologetics shouldn\u2019t be a full-time profession or primary wage-earning income.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Why should the apologetic profession be any different than any other? Does anyone poke their nose into anyone\u00a0else\u2019s\u00a0business, asking what they do for a living, and what they do with all their money? I don\u2019t know what anyone else does, and I really don\u2019t <em>care<\/em>, as long as it is worthy and honorable work (as most work is).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">It\u2019s not a real job. You could do it on the side, though, as a supplement.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">An apologist doesn\u2019t have a \u201creal job\u201d? On what basis does someone come to that conclusion? A \u201creal job,\u201d seems to me, is something someone does (as long as it is not immoral, of course) which brings in recompense, on which they can live. Period. End of sentence. If Scott Hahn or Karl Keating or Pat Madrid or any other apologist (including myself) have important information to offer, in terms of education and helping Catholics better understand and defend (and perhaps also live) their faith, why should they\u00a0not\u00a0do this full-time?<\/p>\n<p>Every <em>other<\/em> profession expects people to work full-time. But suddenly, when it comes to this, it is somehow a bad thing for someone to devote their full attention and energies to it? Why??!! We are simply exercising the gifts and the calling that God gave us. If we do it full-time then we have to make a living somehow. So we write books and give talks. Why anyone would have a problem with that truly mystifies me.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s as if we have to be<em> ashamed<\/em> and <em>embarrassed<\/em> doing what we do, as if it is of<em> little importance<\/em> and only a last resort. I\u2019m not ashamed at all; not in the slightest. But I am ashamed to see that so many Catholics have an irrational, groundless hostility to apologetics. I\u2019ve seen the reasons given for this over and over, but I don\u2019t believe I have ever come across one that made any sense or could hold any water under even mild scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">It\u2019s an ego-driven mentality.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Again, why\u00a0must\u00a0it be \u201cego\u201d and what\u00a0is\u00a0this \u201cmentality,\u201d pray tell? A \u201cmentality\u201d of doing what God calls one to do is a bad thing? A \u201cmentality\u201d of desiring to better equip Catholics with the intellectual aspect of the faith and to help them defend what they believe is a bad thing? A \u201cmentality\u201d that is happy to assist people in becoming convinced of the truth of Catholicism and to enter joyfully into the Church is a bad thing and undoubtedly indicative of a huge ego?<br>\n<span class=\"fullpost\"><br>\nIf a conversion story helps others convert and grow in their faith, and a person is willing to share it over and over, why is that wrong? I really don\u2019t get this. I have a friend, [the late] Alex Jones, who was a pastor (from Detroit, where I am from). He became convinced of Catholicism, and so he lost his job. He had to make a living. This is no small problem for pastors who convert. It so happens he was able to give his conversion story and put it out on tapes, to enable him to bring home the bacon. Now he is a deacon (or soon to be).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Why is this wrong? Some folks act as if it is a Faustian bargain to tell one\u2019s conversion story or (heaven forbid) write a book. I get about $1.75 per book that I sell. So how many books do I have to sell to become greedy?<\/p>\n<p>The Catholic market is very small. The other day I saw three of my books in the Catholic Theology Top 50 at amazon, but I can\u2019t live off the royalties I get for those books. One of them doesn\u2019t even\u00a0pay\u00a0royalties. I received a one-time fee. I didn\u2019t get one red cent for my story in\u00a0<i>Surprised by Truth<\/i>, either. I agreed to it; that was fine (and I got a lot of \u201cname recognition\u201d from it), but I use that as an example to show that one doesn\u2019t get\u00a0rich\u00a0doing apologetics. Some apologists are doing very well (for various reasons), but there are also many who make very little, and work just as hard or even harder.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Catholic apologist speakers make outrageous demands on their fees,\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>How does one determine what is outrageous? Are, e.g., athletes\u2019 salaries are outrageous too? 15 million dollars a year to play a boy\u2019s game? So maybe we should stop watching. But a Catholic sharing their faith and giving testimony making maybe $1000-2000 for a talk is unconscionable and scandalous?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Apologetics only goes so far . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not like it is\u00a0either\/or. Apologetics aims to give people the tools to be confident in what they believe, because they can fully accept it with their mind and rational faculties, as well as with their heart, and in faith. This is invaluable. It prevents people from being vulnerable to spiritual or theological attack and possibly falling away from the faith. After all, where are folks most likely to lose their faith? In college, of course. Part of that is peer pressure and hormones, but it is also in large part because of the unyielding hostile ideas being taught and soaked up like a sponge.<\/p>\n<p>All of us can always grow more in this respect; there is no reason to stop. But different folks like different things. In any event, it isn\u2019t an\u00a0either\/or\u00a0scenario. Apologetics need not be counter at all to spirituality, various devotions, love of the liturgy and the liturgical calendar, reading about saints and miracles, acts of mercy and charity, prayer, fasting, a wholesome family life, etc.<\/p>\n<p>No one said apologetics was the be-all and end-all. In fact, I challenge anyone to find even <em>one\u00a0<\/em>real apologist (published, credentialed) who ever stated such a foolish thing. It\u2019s elementary, after all, for anyone to figure out that \u201capologetics isn\u2019t everything.\u201d I often find that people argue things because of projection, based on their own odyssey, thinking that everyone\u00a0else needs to learn the same lessons that\u00a0they\u00a0did. Just speculation, . . .<\/p>\n<p>A healthy religious view does need an accompanying apologetics, because that provides the crucial rationale for\u00a0why\u00a0the thing is believed, and the basis for it to speak truth to culture, so that the Church can build it up and bring about spiritual revival.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Evangelization is greater than apologetics.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t feel a need to classify everything, better or worse. All these things are important aspects of the Catholic faith, and interconnected. I do both of these. It just depends on the situation.<\/p>\n<p>In order to effectively evangelize today, however, more times than not one will need to be pretty well acquainted with apologetics, because it\u2019ll be necessary with the first \u201chard question\u201d one is asked. Not everyone will jump for joy at having heard the Catholic message, and embrace it, no questions asked. They will want answers to many questions. That\u2019s where we come in. Apologetics precedes conversion many times.<\/p>\n<p>I know relatively little about the lecture-circuit because I don\u2019t do speaking, but I did do some research a while back after anti-Catholic Eric Svendsen made the charge that we Catholic apologists are so greedy because we charge speaking fees, whereas he does that for free. Of course, he didn\u2019t mention the fact (that he had stated elsewhere) that he was so independently wealthy that he could easily fork out $100,000 for a silly challenge he made to Catholics one time. So I made a comparison of speaking fees. It was most enlightening.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If proper catechesis was being done, apologists would not be so popular.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Probably so (as a matter of overlap in causality), yet this exhibits a confusion of category. Catechesis teaches the \u201cwhat\u201d of faith; apologetics deals with \u201cwhy\u00a0we believe\u00a0what\u00a0we believe\u201d. So it doesn\u2019t follow that apologetics would be less needed as good catechetics increased, any more than we should eat less apples in direct proportion to how many more oranges we eat.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If parents were doing a better job teaching the faith, we wouldn\u2019t need as many apologists, either.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This doesn\u2019t follow. Not every parent can teach decent apologetic skills (and my wife home-schools our four children). It is a specialized field. Therefore, most obviously it is good to have people who specialize in it, so that they can share what they have learned with others, saving them the trouble of doing it.<\/p>\n<p>So, for example, anyone could go to a free paper of mine on the Internet (I have posted over 2100), and find some elaborate information that could literally save them hours of research. This very day I spent about four hours writing two pages on the deuterocanon for my next book. It\u2019s packed with information, itself drawn from several papers of mine that, combined, would represent probably 40-50 hours of work.<\/p>\n<p>When someone reads this and takes in the information, they are better equipped in that regard. My 50 hours of labor can save them a bunch of time. Division of labor . . . this is how the world works. Now the trick is to obtain the time to spend 50 hours studying the issue of the deuterocanon.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a news flash for critics of apologists!: it takes <strong><em>time<\/em><\/strong>. And it does even for one like myself who is known (in some circles, notoriously so) for being prolific and a very fast writer. And time is money. The time I spend doing that takes away time I could be at some other job making money. If folks think an apologist is doing helpful work, then they think it is worth it to support him financially, so he can devote himself more so to the important work. But our \u201cproduct\u201d has no monetary value; it has only spiritual value. Our society doesn\u2019t value things other than products and wealth-producing techniques, and so the type of work I do is not considered \u201creal\u201d work. Hence, many pick up that secular mentality, saying we should get a \u201creal job.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I could have done anything I wanted in my life. I had a 3.5 GPA in college. I could have learned anything and gone into any number of lucrative fields. But I chose to do this because I felt God\u2019s calling to do so (way back in 1981). It\u2019s a sacrifice, and there are many trials and tribulations. Most folks have never seen one-tenth of the lies and smears and epithets I put up with from critics. This isn\u2019t easy work. Not everyone can do it. So it is beyond silly to see people making an argument that we do this for greed and fame and pride purposes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/08\/michael-voris-applied-for-job-of-host.html\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Voris\u2019 Critique of Catholic Answers Salaries<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/09\/thoughts-on-how-much-money-apologists.html\" target=\"_blank\">How Much Money Should Apologists Make?: Our Society\u2019s Low Estimate of the Worth of Spiritual and Theological Work\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/09\/are-so-called-establishment-apologists.html\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Voris vs. \u201cFinancially Compromised\u201d Apologists<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/10\/on-apologists-income-high-low-my-case.html\" target=\"_blank\">On Apologists\u2019 Income: \u201cHigh\u201d and Low (My Case)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/06\/on-catholic-answers-cruises-and-the-inevitability-of-capitalistic-business-models-in-catholic-non-profit-lay-apostolates-and-apologetics.html\" target=\"_blank\">On Catholic Answers Cruises \/ Apologetics &amp; \u201cBusiness\u201d<\/a><br>\n*****<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Workers on the first moving assembly line put together magnetos and flywheels for 1913 Ford autos in Highland Park, Michigan [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons] ***** \u00a0(3-23-06) *** \u00a0This is loosely based on an exchange with a Catholic. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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