{"id":17151,"date":"2018-03-21T12:05:48","date_gmt":"2018-03-21T16:05:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=17151"},"modified":"2018-03-21T12:05:48","modified_gmt":"2018-03-21T16:05:48","slug":"does-communion-in-one-kind-trivialize-the-sacrament","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/03\/does-communion-in-one-kind-trivialize-the-sacrament.html","title":{"rendered":"Does Communion in One Kind &#8220;Trivialize&#8221; the Sacrament?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-17154 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2018\/03\/Chalice3.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"492\" height=\"768\"><\/p>\n<p>Communion in one kind is not automatically a \u201ctrivialization\u201d (as a Protestant critic charged). The fact remains that given the assumption of bodily Real Presence, Jesus is fully present under<em> either<\/em> form (since He can\u2019t be divided). This is a biblical teaching:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Corinthians 11:27<\/strong> (RSV, as throughout) Whoever, therefore, eats the bread <em><strong>or<\/strong><\/em> drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note the all-important \u201cor.\u201d This shows that Jesus is fully present in <em>either<\/em>. If we profane the consecrated host, we are guilty of the body and blood of Christ. The logic (even the grammatical structure or syntax) is unassailable. Jesus Himself also alludes to <em>one form only<\/em> being salvific:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John 6:33-35<\/strong> For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven, and gives life to the world.\u201d [34] They said to him, \u201cLord, give us this bread always.\u201d [35] Jesus said to them, \u201cI am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John 6:50-51<\/strong> This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. [51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John 6:57-58<\/strong> As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. [58] This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These passages don\u2019t exclude both forms, but they do show that one only is quite sufficient for the purpose of receiving our Lord Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity: a thing directly tied to salvation (John 6). The widespread withdrawal of the cup had nothing to do with a goal of deliberate deprivation, and everything to do with hygienic and reverential considerations. It was much easier for abuse to take place with liquid. It was also more difficult and risk-laden to take the Eucharist to the sick in their homes (as was widely done in the early Church) in liquid form.<\/p>\n<p>When many Protestants later ceased believing in the Real Substantial Presence altogether, such considerations were irrelevant: a little wine (or the unbiblical grape juice, due to the social pressure of the temperance movement) splashes out? So what: it\u2019s only symbolic, anyway. No biggie. But when one believes that it is literally our Lord Jesus, then the utmost care is taken.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, how sacraments or liturgy are conducted in details is a relevant consideration as well. I could just as well argue that the Calvinist tradition trivialized baptism by not routinely using immersion, which seems indicated or some kind of norm, at least in some Bible passages. It was deemed a proper development and not fatal to the essence of baptism, by most Protestants, to allow pouring or even sprinkling. The Baptist would argue, on the other hand, that immersion as well as adult baptism are both central or essential to the rite and sacrament. Most Christians (including the majority of Protestants) disagree.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, those of us who believe in baptismal regeneration (the vast majority of all Christians throughout history) also hold that to deny that result is to violate the very essence of the sacrament: to \u201cgut it\u201d of its power and central purpose. But these are the same kinds of arguments made with regard to Holy Communion: because Rome didn\u2019t allow the cup for many years, somehow it was \u201ctrivializing\u201d the sacrament. It simply doesn\u2019t follow; and the more one understands the reasoning, the less force this objection has.<\/p>\n<p>The only case that has any \u201cteeth\u201d at all here is the complaint about infrequent communion. But the Church in due course changed that. I\u2019m not sure what the earlier rationale was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/bible-on-receiving-one-species-in-communion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Bible on Receiving One Species in Communion<\/a><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>(originally 1-31-12)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> photograph by<\/span>\u00a0<a class=\"hover_opacity decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/en\/users\/SunflowerGUY-3867046\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">SunflowerGUY\u00a0<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(February 2018)<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/en\/chalice-gold-chalice-eucharist-3105741\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/en\/service\/terms\/#usage\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC0 Creative Commons<\/a> license]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Communion in one kind is not automatically a \u201ctrivialization\u201d (as a Protestant critic charged). The fact remains that given the assumption of bodily Real Presence, Jesus is fully present under either form (since He can\u2019t be divided). This is a biblical teaching: 1 Corinthians 11:27 (RSV, as throughout) Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":17154,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[58],"tags":[1679,5130,1952,1950,1949,5127,1948,1607,599,5133,365,364,1604,1605,361,1678,1677,1951,367,2337,516],"class_list":["post-17151","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-eucharist-liturgy","tag-altar-rail","tag-chalice","tag-communion-chalice","tag-communion-cup","tag-communion-elements","tag-communion-in-one-kind","tag-communion-in-one-species","tag-communion-rail","tag-eucharist","tag-eucharistic-cup","tag-holy-communion","tag-holy-eucharist","tag-kneeling","tag-liturgical-posture","tag-liturgy","tag-receiving-in-the-hand","tag-receiving-on-the-tongue","tag-receiving-the-communion-cup","tag-reverence","tag-the-mass","tag-worship"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Does Communion in One Kind &quot;Trivialize&quot; the Sacrament?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Given the assumption of bodily Real Presence, Jesus is fully present under either form in Holy Communion (since He can&#039;t be divided). 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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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