{"id":1804,"date":"2004-05-27T11:38:00","date_gmt":"2004-05-27T15:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2004\/05\/the-orthodox-vs-the-heterodox-luther.html"},"modified":"2019-07-23T17:41:51","modified_gmt":"2019-07-23T21:41:51","slug":"orthodox-vs-heterodox-luther","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2004\/05\/orthodox-vs-heterodox-luther.html","title":{"rendered":"The Orthodox Traditionalist vs. the Heterodox Luther"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-8312 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2004\/05\/Luther-12.jpg\" alt=\"Luther-12\" width=\"411\" height=\"600\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Martin Luther, 31 December 1525 (age 42), by Lucas Cranach the Elder<\/span>\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Katharina_von_Bora#\/media\/File:Martin-Luther-1526-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">***<br>\n<span style=\"color: red; font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">[Note: this was written in 1992. I\u2019ve learned tons of things about Martin Luther since that time; even in just the last few years, as I continue to do further research and reading. In several cases, I have changed my opinion on particular elements of his beliefs and behavior. Thus, I wouldn\u2019t express several things in this article the way I did then, and I\u2019ve discovered one definite inaccuracy; see the next note below. I have kept this article online, listed on my \u201cResume\u201d because it was my first published article. But I don\u2019t list it on my Luther web page, due to its outdated nature and relative lack of documentation. At the time I wrote it (before I was even online), I didn\u2019t have nearly the resources available to me that I now have]<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Martin Luther has, of course, been traditionally regarded as either a \u201cReformer of the True Church,\u201d or the \u201cUltimate Heresiarch,\u201d depending on one\u2019s religious affiliation. Ironically, the first description of Luther seems to have taken hold among Catholics as well as Protestants in the current climate of ecumenism.<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Arguably, however, the real Luther is far more fascinating and complex than his detractors or hagiographers have generally realized. There exists in \u201cthe Father of the Reformation\u201d a curious mix of orthodoxy and heterodoxy which are part and parcel of his tempestuous and radically subjective temperament (a psychological trait acknowledged by serious biographers on all sides). It is worthwhile exploring this habit of both simultaneous contradiction and vacillation \u2014 a tendency easily documented from his own words \u2014 in attempting to understand this most controversial figure. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">A striking example of Luther\u2019s \u201cdoublespeak\u201d occurs in a sequence of four letters \u2013 \u2013 all, incidentally, written after the posting of the <i>Ninety-Five Theses <\/i>(October 31, 1517): <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Most Holy Father, prostrate at the feet of your Holiness, I offer myself with all that I am and have . . . I will acknowledge thy voice as the voice of Christ.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Letter to Pope Leo X, May 30, 1518)<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The true Antichrist, according to Paul, reigns in the Roman Court: I think I am able to prove that he [the Pope] is now worse than the Turks.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Letter to Wenceslaus Link, December 11, 1518)<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">I never approved of a schism, nor will I approve of it for all eternity . . . That the Roman Church is more honored by God than all others is not to be doubted . . . It is not by separating from the Church that we can make her better.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Letter to Pope Leo X, January 6, 1519)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: blue; font-family: inherit;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">[This was mistaken documentation on my part. Luther indeed did write (or say) all these words, but they actually derive from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">two <\/span>sources, and neither is a letter to Pope Leo X from this date. The first clause came from the Leipzig Disputation with Johann Eck in July 1519; the rest is from a tract called <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">An Instruction on Certain Articles<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: red;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">, which dates from late February 1519. For much more on these four Luther utterances and related issues, see my<\/span> <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/11\/luthers-fascinating-correspondence-from-1518-to-1520.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">paper about Luther\u2019s views on the papacy from 1518 to 1520<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">]<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">I do not know whether the Pope is Antichrist himself, or his Apostle: so miserably is Christ (that is, truth) corrupted and crucified by him in the decrees.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Letter to Georg Spalatin, March 13, 1519)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">The most charitable and unassuming description of such clear equivocation might be \u201cfrequent profound mood changes!\u201d <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Some of Luther\u2019s most shocking opinions are regarding celibacy, chastity, and marriage. One might expect from Luther a certain disdain of Tradition, but not such a wanton disrespect of the moral teachings of the Bible. The most famous sexual scandal of the Protestant Revolt was the bigamy of the Prince (\u201cLandgrave\u201d) Philip of Hesse. Philip was married, but continually engaged in adultery, and petitioned Luther for permission to take another wife. Although bigamy was punishable by death in German law, Philip Melanchthon, Luther\u2019s right-hand man and successor, wrote a document sanctioning bigamy, signed by Luther and six other \u201creformers,\u201d including Martin Bucer. It reads in part: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">We declare under an oath that it ought to be done secretly . . . It is nothing unusual for princes to have concubines . . . and this modest way of living would please more than adultery.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Document dated December 10, 1539 \/ <i>Luther\u2019s Letters<\/i>, De Wette \u2014 Seidemann, Berlin, 1828, vol. 6, 255-265)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">The secret soon became public, whereupon Melanchthon \u201csickened almost to death with remorse.\u201d Luther, unabashed, acted as if he was totally unaware of the illegal and immoral transaction, and confided to friends: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">A secret yes must remain a public no and vice versa.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(De Wette, vol. 6, 263)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">and: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">What would it matter if, for the sake of greater good and of the Christian Church, one were to tell a good, downright lie?\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Lenz, <\/span><i style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Luther\u2019s Letters<\/i><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">, Leipzig, 1891, vol. 1, 382)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">Luther believed that polygamy was sanctioned in Scripture:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(De Wette, vol. 2, 459)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">On the contrary, Jesus Christ (Matt 19:6-9) and St. Paul (Rom 7:3; I Cor 7:2; Eph 5:32-33) presupposed monogamy as normative for the Christian. <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Celibacy was also supposedly impossible, an idea fraught with many dangers and implications: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Chastity is not in our power. All are created for marriage. God does not permit that one be alone.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(De Wette, vol. 2, 637 ff.)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">This is expressly denied by Our Lord (Matt 19:12). According to Luther, both men and women are utterly unable to abstain from sex, and indeed, <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Libidinousness cannot be cured by anything, not even by marriage; for the greater part of the married live in adultery.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(<\/span><i style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Luther\u2019s Works<\/i><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">, Erlangen, 1868, \u201cOpp. Exeg. Lat.,\u201d I, 212)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">Despite all this (many similarly shocking utterances could be brought forth on a variety of topics), Luther\u2019s softer and more reflective side can be surprisingly orthodox and even tender, especially when he teaches on the Blessed Virgin Mary. He believed in the Immaculate Conception, Mary\u2019s perpetual virginity,and in the usage of the title <i>Mother of God<\/i> (in the latter two beliefs he is joined by Calvin, Zwingli, and other Protestants). Luther\u2019s own words: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">Christ . . . was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him . . . \u2018brothers\u2019 really means \u2018cousins\u2019 here, for Holy Writ and the Jews always call cousins brothers.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<i>Sermons on John<\/i>, chapters 1-4, 1537-39)<\/span> <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">God says . . . :\u2019Mary\u2019s Son is My only Son.\u2019 Thus Mary is the Mother of God.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(<\/span><i style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Ibid.<\/i><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">)<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The infusion of Mary\u2019s soul was effected without original sin . . . From the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Sermon: \u201cOn the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God,\u201d 1527)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">The eminent Lutheran theologian Arthur Carl Piepkorn (1907-73), of Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, after years of study, confirmed Luther\u2019s unswerving acceptance of the Immaculate Conception until his death. <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Luther uttered many praises of Our Lady in several contexts: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us . . . There where He is, we ought also to be and all that He has ought to be ours, and His Mother is also our Mother.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Sermon, Christmas, 1529)<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Sermon, September 1, 1522)<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Sermon, Christmas, 1531)<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Whoever possesses a good faith, says the <i>Hail Mary<\/i> without danger.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Sermon, March 11, 1523)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">Luther\u2019s view of the Eucharist was also, in many ways, orthodox (he believed the bread and wine remained after the consecration [<i>consubstantiation<\/i>] and denied the Sacrifice of the Mass). Here there is irony and inconsistency in Luther\u2019s reasoning as well. He based his conclusion not only on Christ\u2019s clear words at the Last Supper, but also on Church Tradition (!), writing to Melanchthon: \u201cIt was very dangerous to assume that the Church which had existed for so many centuries . . . should not have taught the true doctrine of the Sacraments.\u201d Luther deemed more radical Protestants such as Zwingli and Oecolampadius as \u201cdamned . . . out of the Church . . . offspring of hell . . . heretics,\u201d largely based on their symbolic views of the Eucharist. <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Furthermore, we know Luther allowed those who still believed in Transubstantiation to join his party in 1543, only three years before he died (<i>Letter to the Evangelicals at Venice<\/i>, June 13, 1543). Writing about the Elevation of the Host in 1544, Luther stated: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">If Christ is truly present in the Bread, why should He not be treated with the utmost respect and even be adored?\u201d Joachim, a friend, added: \u201cWe saw how Luther bowed low at the Elevation with great devotion and reverently worshiped Christ.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Mathesius, <\/span><i style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Table Talk<\/i><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">, Leipzig, 1903, 341)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">In 1545 he described the Eucharist as the \u201cadorable Sacrament,\u201d which caused Calvin to accuse him of \u201craising up an idol in God\u2019s temple,\u201d and of being \u201chalf-papist.\u201d Luther, in later years, lamented often about the actual course of his \u201cReformation\u201d in Germany, thus perhaps revealing a sense of failure and guilt: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Who would have wanted to begin preaching, had we known beforehand that so much disaster, riotousness, scandal, sacrilege, ingratitude [i.e., towards himself], and wickedness were to follow. But now . . . we have to pay for it.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(<\/span><i style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Works<\/i><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">, Erlangen, 50,74; in 1538)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">I have well nigh given up all hope for Germany, for . . . wickedness and roguery are reigning everywhere . . . and added to all else contempt of the Word.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">(Letter to Anton Lauterbach, November 1541)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: inherit; color: #000000;\">Even so, despite frequent bouts of self-condemnation, he did not renounce his supposed absolute certainty concerning the \u201cGospel\u201d which he felt he had restored from the ashes. <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Perhaps the ultimate tragic contradiction in Luther is his simultaneous assertion of private judgment over against Church Tradition, and denial of the same right to his fellow Protestant sectarians, consigning all of them to damnation for not accepting his \u201cclear\u201d dogmatic statements of the truths of Christianity. In so doing, he had absurdly evolved full circle from \u201cHere I stand \u2013 \u2013 I can do no other\u201d to \u201cThis I declare \u2013 \u2013 you can believe no other,\u201d and made himself an intolerant autocrat unequaled by any other major and important figure in Church history (with the possible exception of Calvin). He sanctioned censorship of non-Lutheran works, forcible suppression of the Mass, and capital punishment for wide-ranging theological errors determined by his magisterium of one (e.g., the Anabaptists). <\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Whatever one thinks of Martin Luther, however, he possessed beyond doubt one of the most interesting personalities in history, providing a lifetime of challenge for any theologically-minded amateur psychologist.<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\">* * * * *<\/span><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span> <span style=\"color: #cc33cc; font-family: inherit;\">Two explanatory notes (in <span style=\"color: blue;\">blue<\/span> and brackets) added on 14 June 2008.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meta Description:\u00a0Introduction to Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism, from a Catholic perspective.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meta Keywords:\u00a0Martin Luther, Luther, Protestant Reformation, founder of Protestantism<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Martin Luther, 31 December 1525 (age 42), by Lucas Cranach the Elder\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0Wikimedia Commons] *** [Note: this was written in 1992. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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