{"id":18446,"date":"2018-04-23T18:55:30","date_gmt":"2018-04-23T22:55:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=18446"},"modified":"2026-06-06T00:35:24","modified_gmt":"2026-06-06T04:35:24","slug":"todd-bakers-exodus-from-rome-tradition-mary-sola-fide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/04\/todd-bakers-exodus-from-rome-tradition-mary-sola-fide.html","title":{"rendered":"Todd Baker&#8217;s &#8220;Exodus from Rome&#8221; (Tradition, Mary, Sola Fide)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-18449 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2018\/04\/FoxeAnti-Catholic.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"582\" height=\"480\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Exodus-Rome-Biblical-Historical-Catholicism-ebook\/dp\/B07C2BRHX9?tag=davearmstrongbooks-20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Exodus From Rome, Volume 2: A Biblical and Historical Critique of Roman Catholicism<\/em> <\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(The Scofield Institute Press, 8 April 2018), by Todd D. Baker, is the latest of a long line of anti-Catholic critiques of Catholicism (i.e., from the perspective that Catholicism isn\u2019t a species of Christianity, and is a \u201cfalse gospel\u201d). They\u2019re utterly predictable in their lame, oft-refuted \u201carguments.\u201d I\u2019ve dealt with them innumerable times on my<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/anti-catholicism-index-page.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Anti-Catholicism<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> and<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/08\/contra-catholicism-featuring.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">James White<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">web pages. I wouldn\u2019t spend any time on this at all, except that he mentions my name, and I have an \u201cexception\u201d policy of responding to direct arguments against my own writing: even from anti-Catholics.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dr. Todd Baker is president of B\u2019rit Hadashah Ministries and Pastor of Shalom Messianic Congregation in Dallas, Texas. He holds a Bachelor of Science Degree in Biblical Studies, a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Apologetics from Trinity Seminary under the auspices of Liverpool University at Liverpool, England. He is a professor at Scofield Bible Institute and staff theologian and writer for Zola Levitt Ministries. He has appeared on the television program Zola Levitt Presents several times. With his extensive experience in Jewish Evangelism, he conducts Gospel outreaches to Israel several times a year.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dr. Baker\u2019s words, from his book, will be in<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I. Apostolic Tradition and \u201cTraditions of Men\u201d in Scripture, and <em>Sola Scriptura<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[Footnote] <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">23. Dave Armstrong, <em>100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura<\/em> (San Diego, Catholic Answers, 2012); Msgr. George Agius,\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Tradition<\/em>, 11. Armstrong\u2019s ridiculously entitled book purports to give 100 airtight arguments from the Bible against <em>sola scriptura<\/em>\u00a0(the belief Scripture alone is the final and ultimate authority for the Christian). Upon a closer reading of his text the savvy, intelligent\u00a0Bible discerner will see that all of Armstrong\u2019s arguments are basically riddled with half-truths, straw-man arguments, and begging\u00a0the question premises\u2014all of which have been thoroughly answered and refuted, in one form or another, by Bible believing\u00a0apologists. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That may or may not <em>possibly<\/em> be true of my book and my arguments, of course, but by the same token, this description (as Dr. Baker certainly knows) is not a rational argument. It\u2019s merely a hostile description. In order to demonstrate the merit of<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/100-biblical-arguments-against-sola-scriptura\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the arguments I make in my book<\/a>,<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> they would have to actually be <em>interacted<\/em> with, and attempted refutations made. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But anti-Catholics would rather crawl over broken glass on their bare knees for a mile than ever do <em>that<\/em>! It\u2019s much easier to mock and dismiss with a few childish lines. I\u2019ve written more about <em>sola Scriptura<\/em> than about any other topic (in my 27 years of Catholic apologetics), and there are plans for my third book on the topic to be published soon. See my<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/bible-church-tradition-canon-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Bible and Tradition web page<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">See, for example, William Whitaker, <em>Disputation On Holy Scripture<\/em>; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yeah, I wrote an entire<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/pillars-of-sola-scriptura-replies-to-whitaker-goode-biblical-proofs-for-bible-alone\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">310-page book<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">in which I deal point-by-point with the arguments of Whitaker (1548-1595)\u00a0 and also those of William Goode (1801-1868). I did so because many Protestants contend that these two men are the best historic defenders of <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>. And (what a surprise!) no Protestant (for nearly six years now) has ever even <em>attempted<\/em> to refute what I offer there. To modify an old saying a bit: \u201cif you can\u2019t beat \u2019em, flee for the hills.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">David T. King and William Webster, <em>Holy\u00a0Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of Our Faith<\/em>, vol. 1\u20133; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yep. I\u2019ve refuted large portions of the books of these two men (or other papers by them) many times. With regard to the<em> present<\/em> topic, see:<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/04\/chrysostom-irenaeus-sola-scripturists.html\" target=\"_blank\">Chrysostom &amp; Irenaeus:\u00a0<em>Sola Scripturists<\/em>?: Refutation of Anti-Catholic Polemicist and Reformed Protestant Pastor David T. King\u00a0<\/a>[4-20-07]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/answer-to-sola-scriptura-prooftexts-2-tim-316-17-rom-1615-16.html\" target=\"_blank\">Answer to\u00a0<em>Sola Scriptura<\/em>\u00a0\u201cProoftexts\u201d 2 Timothy 3:16-17 &amp; Romans 16:15-16<\/a>\u00a0(vs. Reformed Pastor David T. King) [6-26-12]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/11\/david-t-king-and-william-webster.html\" target=\"_blank\">David T. King and William Webster: Out-of-Context or Hyper-Selective Quotations from the Church Fathers on Christian Authority: Introduction to the Series<\/a>\u00a0[11-8-13]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/11\/david-t-king-and-william-webster_9.html\" target=\"_blank\">David T. King and William Webster: Out-of-Context or Hyper-Selective Quotations from the Church Fathers on Christian Authority: Part I: St. Cyril of Jerusalem<\/a>\u00a0[11-9-13]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/11\/david-t-king-and-william-webster_11.html\" target=\"_blank\">David T. King and William Webster: Out-of-Context or Hyper-Selective Quotations from the Church Fathers on Christian Authority: Part II: St. Basil the Great<\/a>\u00a0[11-11-13]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/11\/david-t-king-ignores-sola-scriptura-biblical-disproofs.html\" target=\"_blank\">David T. King Ignores\u00a0<em>Sola Scriptura<\/em>\u00a0Biblical Disproofs<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0(Incl. lengthy analysis of 2 Peter 1:20: \u201cno prophecy of scripture is a matter of one\u2019s own interpretation\u201d) [11-13-17]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/06\/william-websters-misunderstanding-development-doctrine.html\" target=\"_blank\">William Webster\u2019s Misunderstanding of Development of Doctrine<\/a>\u00a0[2000]<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/11\/william-webster-vs-tradition-development-truth.html\" target=\"_blank\">William Webster vs. Tradition, Development, &amp; Truth<\/a>\u00a0[4-10-03]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">William Webster was duly informed of my first paper written in response to his atrocious, embarrassing arguments in 2000. He appeared to express some interest in counter-responding, but alas, never did, and never has since that time. The same holds for Pastor King. He tried to lie about and misrepresent my hero, Cardinal Newman, in 2002 (making out that he was a flaming modernist),<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/04\/was-cardinal-newman-a-modernist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">until I roundly refuted him<\/a>. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">He has never dared to debate me since that time. It\u2019s an old familiar pattern of behavior by now.<br>\n*<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Johann Gerhard,<em> On the Nature and Theology of Scripture<\/em>; Don\u00a0Kistler,<em> Sola Scriptura<\/em>; Martin Chemnitz, <em>Examination of the Council of Trent<\/em>, vol. 1; William Webster, <em>Roman Catholic\u00a0Tradition: Claims and Contradictions<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I\u2019ve dealt with Chemnitz\u2019s arguments as well, and have his book about Trent in my library (hardcover). Presently, those articles are only available at Internet Archive (I have to upload them to my current blog), but if anyone wants to read them, they are listed on my<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/lutheranism-catholic-critique-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Lutheranism web page<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(search \u201cChemnitz\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[ . . . ]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong\u00a0concludes this has to be what Paul meant:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">When Paul spoke of receiving and delivering such traditions, he gave no indication that they were infallible or that he\u00a0questioned any of them <em>because they came through oral transmission rather than the written word<\/em>. Thus, he appears\u00a0to take for granted that which many Protestants have the hardest time grasping and accepting. 76 (Emphasis mine.)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[Footnote]<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">76.\u00a0Armstrong, <em>100 Biblical Arguments<\/em>, 23.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dr. Baker botches the quote and in so doing, changes the meaning quite a bit. Where he has \u201c<em>in<\/em>fallible\u201d the actual word I had was \u201cfallible.\u201d I will give him the benefit of the doubt that it was probably an innocent mistake, but this demonstrates the supreme importance of citing accurately.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The thought I was expressing, then, was that, for St. Paul, tradition (including extrabiblical tradition) was authoritative and binding and infallible: both in written and oral form. This directly contradicts <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">What Armstrong fails to take into account is that the Pharisees, in Paul and Jesus\u2019 day, believed\u00a0Judaism\u2019s oral traditions (later codified in the Talmud) were the unwritten Word of God equal in\u00a0authority to the written Word of God in Holy Scripture. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Agreed; and Jesus and Paul and the early Christians believed in oral tradition as well. See my papers:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/reply-to-james-white-on-binding-tradition.html\" target=\"_blank\">James White\u2019s Critique of My Book,\u00a0<em>The Catholic Verses<\/em>: Part I: The Binding Authority of Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[12-30-04]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/biblical-evidence-for-apostolic-oral-tradition-2.html\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical Evidence for Apostolic Oral Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[2-20-09]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/biblical-evidence-for-the-oral-torah-hence-by-analogy-oral-apostolic-tradition.html\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical Evidence for the Oral Torah<\/a>\u00a0[10-18-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/02\/sola-scriptura-old-testament-ancient-jewish-practice.html\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Sola Scriptura<\/em>, the Old Testament, &amp; Ancient Jewish Practice<\/a>\u00a0[1999]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Paul, a former Pharisee, not only knew of this\u00a0major tenet of Pharisaism, but also once believed it as a former Pharisee (Philippians 3:5). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">St. Paul was <em>not<\/em> a \u201cformer Pharisee. He <em>still<\/em> called himself a <em>Pharisee<\/em> <em>after<\/em> he became a Christian. He says so twice:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Acts 23:6<\/strong> (RSV) . . .\u00a0\u201cBrethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees . . . \u201c<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Acts 26:5<\/strong> . . .\u00a0according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">St. Paul continued to worship in the temple and observe the rites there, including animal sacrifice (Acts 21:26; 22:17; 24:12, 17-18). Indeed, he was doing so when he was arrested. He continued to worship in the synagogues as well, even presiding over some of the services (Acts 13:13-44; cf. 18:4). He acknowledged the authority of the Jewish high priest as his own \u201cruler\u201d (Acts 23:1-8).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The oral\u00a0law was placed alongside Scripture by the Pharisees to complete the Word of God. But both Jesus\u00a0and Paul rebuke this grave error by calling these traditions what they really were in origin and\u00a0creation\u2014\u201c<em>the traditions and doctrines of men<\/em>\u201d (Matthew 15:1\u201310; Mark 7:1\u201313; Colossians 2:8).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There were indeed (and are) mere \u201ctraditions of men\u201d (i.e., contrary to apostolic, true traditions). Jesus and Paul refer to both, so it must be determined <em>which<\/em> is being referred to in any given context. Jesus told his disciples to observe what the Pharisees told them to do, even if they were hypocrites (Mt 23:1-3), and He said they had this authority because they sit on \u201cMoses\u2019 seat\u201d: a notion that is not found in the Old Testament. See:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/08\/tradition-isnt-a-dirty-word.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cTradition\u201d Isn\u2019t a Dirty Word<\/a>\u00a0[late 90s; rev. 8-16-16]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/biblical-evidence-for-true-apostolic-tradition-2.html\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical Evidence for True Apostolic Tradition (vs. \u201cTraditions of Men\u201d)<\/a>\u00a0[6-23-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/antidote-to-william-whitakers-sola-scriptura-arguments-absurd-alleged-biblical-indications-against-apostolic-tradition.html\" target=\"_blank\">Reply to William Whitaker\u2019s\u00a0<em>Sola Scriptura<\/em>\u00a0Arguments: Absurd Alleged Biblical Indications Against Apostolic Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[10-20-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/02\/moses-seat-jesus-vs-sola-scriptura-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cMoses\u2019 Seat\u201d &amp; Jesus vs.\u00a0<\/a><em><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/02\/moses-seat-jesus-vs-sola-scriptura-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sola Scriptura<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>(vs. James White) [12-27-03]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-1-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Refutation of James White: Moses\u2019 Seat, the Bible, and Tradition\u00a0(Introduction: #1)<\/a>\u00a0(+<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-2-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Part II\u00a0<\/a>|\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-3-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Part III<\/a>\u00a0|<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-4-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0Part IV<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-5-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Part V<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/moses-seat-tradition-6-vs-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\">Part VI<\/a>) [5-12-05]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If Armstrong were adequately educated about what first century Judaism teaches then and today\u00a0about the so called divine origin of their oral tradition, he would see that Jesus\u2019 and Paul\u2019s\u00a0condemnation of man-man tradition purported to be from God, is the same thing the Roman Catholic\u00a0Church believes their Sacred Tradition to be\u2014the unwritten word of God. So the well-deserved\u00a0rejection of manmade religious traditions by Jesus and Paul equally applies to the traditions of Rome,\u00a0which also deny the sole sufficiency of God\u2019s Word alone!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This doesn\u2019t follow logically at all, nor has Dr. Baker demonstrated it. He\u2019s merely spouting anti-Catholic talking-points, from the 500-year-old playbook. I provide biblical (and patristic and rational) arguments for every single distinctively Catholic doctrine; most notably in my volume<\/span>,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/bible-proofs-for-catholic-truths\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0<em>Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths<\/em><\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(which is 95% Scripture verses), but also in my books,<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/a-biblical-defense-of-catholicism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>A Biblical Defense of Catholicism<\/em><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/the-catholic-verses-95-bible-passages-that-confound-protestants\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Catholic Verses: 95 Bible Passages That Confound Protestants<\/em><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/the-one-minute-apologist-essential-catholic-replies-to-over-sixty-common-protestant-claims\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The One-Minute Apologist<\/em><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/proving-the-catholic-faith-is-biblical-from-priestly-celibacy-to-the-rosary-80-short-essays-explaining-the-biblical-basis-of-catholicism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical<\/em><\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/books-by-dave-armstrong\/revelation-1001-bible-answers-to-theological-topics\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Revelation!: 1001 Bible Answers to Theological Questions<\/em><\/a>. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">If any doctrine is \u201cmanmade\u201d it\u2019s <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>: a<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/sola-scriptura-unbiblical-refutation-of-dr-richard-bennett.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">completely unbiblical<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">and incoherent<\/span>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/02\/sola-scriptura-self-defeating-false-not-bible.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">self-refuting<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">doctrine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If tradition, in the three places Paul mentions it in a positive light in the New Testament, became\u00a0a part of his inscripturated writings of the New Testament, as we have thus far adequately\u00a0demonstrated, then Armstrong\u2019s forced and unwarranted differentiation between traditions of men and\u00a0the unwritten traditions of God does not hold water; and he is simply committing <em>the fallacy of\u00a0equivocation<\/em>. The fallacy of equivocation occurs when an ambiguous term is taken one way in one\u00a0occurrence in the argument and then in another way in the second occurrence without showing clear\u00a0epistemic and contextual justification for making this difference in meaning (i.e., man-made tradition\u00a0<em>vis a vis<\/em> the unwritten traditions of God permanently existing outside of Scripture). 77<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[Footnote]<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">77.\u00a0Douglas N. Walton. <em>Informal Logic: A Handbook For Critical Argumentation<\/em> (New York: Cambridge, 1989), 250.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This is far too simplistic. Dr. Baker claims that all legitimate traditions become <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cinscripturated.\u201d<\/span> But this is a circular argument. The Protestant who argues in this way simply <em>assumes<\/em> it without demonstrating it from the Bible. Nowhere in the actual Bible does it ever say that absolutely every tradition must eventually wind up explicitly mentioned in the Bible, or else it is non-binding and illegitimate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Nor does the Bible ever say that every Christian doctrine must be explicitly laid out in Scripture. Nor does it ever spell out and define\u00a0<em>sola Scriptura<\/em> and claim (as Protestants habitually do) that only Scripture is infallible and binding as the rule of faith. The quickest way to demonstrate this is to bring up the canon of the Bible, which is nowhere listed in the Bible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Therefore, it is an extrabiblical tradition that is universally accepted by Christians (the only difference being the Protestant non-acceptance of the seven books of the deuterocanon). Every Protestant uncritically accepts on faith the 27-book canon of the New Testament, <em>not<\/em> because of <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>, but because of Church authority and declarations (infallible tradition and an infallible Church decree) going back to the 4th century. There is no way out of this dilemma.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Another quick way to refute <em>sola Scriptura<\/em> is to cite the<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/04\/jerusalem-council-vs-sola-scriptura.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Jerusalem Council<\/a>, <span style=\"color: #000000;\">which gave a binding decree that all Christians everywhere were henceforth bound to. St. Paul himself passed along the decree in his missionary travels (Acts 16:4). It was an infallible council and Church authority: expressly contrary to <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>, which holds that only <em>Scripture<\/em> is infallible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Dave Armstrong does the same thing when arbitrarily assuming for the Catholic Church that the\u00a0tradition(s) Paul equates with apostolic teaching do not point to the apostolic writings in Scripture.\u00a0Therefore Armstrong assumes these traditions must, of necessity, exist outside of Scripture; without\u00a0unequivocally demonstrating that the apostle meant exactly this when he writes of the apostolic\u00a0traditions taught in the churches of the first century. Indeed, we have contextually proven in each case\u00a0these traditions are the very teachings and instructions Paul writes in his New Testament epistles\u2014\u00a0and thus part of the written Word of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Such a universal negative <em>cannot<\/em> and <em>has not<\/em> been proven. It\u2019s assumed without argument, which is no rational (or biblical) argument. This is one of many arbitrary Protestant traditions of men: that every time \u201ctradition\u201d is alluded to in the New Testament, it <em>must<\/em> be referring to something in Scripture (i.e., because the Protestant has unbiblically assumed from the outset that it <em>must<\/em> do so; not because the <em>Bible<\/em> ever says so).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>II. Mary and the Ark of the Covenant<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Catholic theology also believes that the Ark of the Covenant typifies the person of Mary, and like\u00a0the Ark that could not be touched because it was so holy, Mary in this way could not be touched by a\u00a0man. Mary symbolizes the Ark since she bore the incarnate Son of God, much in the same way the Ark\u00a0of the Covenant housed the presence of God. Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong makes the following\u00a0comparison between the Ark of the Covenant and Mary:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The ark of the old covenant was constructed according to meticulous instructions from God (Exod. 25:9; 39:42\u201343). How\u00a0much more perfect must the \u201cGod-bearer\u201d be who would carry in her womb God made flesh, the eternal <em>Logos<\/em>, or \u201cWord\u201d\u00a0of God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity? 117<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[Footnote]<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">117.\u00a0Dave Armstrong, <em>A Biblical Defense of Catholicism<\/em> (Bedford, NJ: Sophia Press, 2003), 179. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[The correct bibliographical information is Manchester, New Hampshire and Sophia <em>Institute<\/em> Press. Apparently, Dr. Baker got \u201cBedford\u201d from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sophia_Institute_Press\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikipedia<\/a>, but still got the <em>state<\/em> wrong. Both my book and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sophiainstitute.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">current website for Sophia<\/a> list Manchester, New Hampshire as the mailing address (street address: Nashua, NH)]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Once again, both Staples and Armstrong, following a long train of Roman Catholic tradition,\u00a0read their own presuppositional ideas of Mary into the biblical texts. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We\u2019re not reading into anything! The many parallels are there in Scripture (as I have<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/darmstrong\/amazing-parallels-between-mary-and-the-ark-of-the-covenant\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">written about<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">), as an example of<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/encyclopedias\/isbe\/type.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">types and shadows or typology<\/a>:<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> a familiar biblical motif that Protestants accept as much as we do. Secondly, Protestants always claim to be more in line with the teachings of the Church fathers in the early centuries than Catholics are. There is plenty of documentation of this comparison of Mary with the ark<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/apologetics-topics\/mary\/church-fathers-on-mary-as-ark-of-the-new-covenant\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">from the Church fathers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For example, it is alluded to by Hippolytus, Ephrem, Ambrose, Cyril\u00a0 of Jerusalem, Athanasius, Dionysius, Theodotus, and Jerome (not a one of whom ever taught <em>sola fide<\/em> or <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>\u00a0or denied baptismal regeneration or the Real Substantial Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist). Anti-Catholics like Dr. Baker need to take it up with <em>them<\/em>, then, if they don\u2019t like this, rather than Armstrong and Staples, who are merely reiterating and passing along what has long since been observed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">III. Mary Spouse of the Holy Spirit<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Holy Spirit was not a\u00a0husband to Mary; He was the super-natural Person and means that conceived the incarnate Son of God\u00a0in her virgin womb. In this capacity, the Holy Spirit can no way be a spouse to Mary, any more than\u00a0the seed from the man inseminates the female womb in normal birth could function as a spouse.\u00a0Joseph was the spouse of Mary, as so plainly revealed in Scripture. Matthew 1:18 identifies Joseph\u00a0to be the spouse of Mary. \u201c<em>After His mother Mary was espoused (betrothed) to Joseph, before they\u00a0<\/em><em>came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit<\/em>.\u201d Clearly it was Joseph identified to be\u00a0the male spouse of Mary, for they were already betrothed to each other before the virgin conception\u00a0of the Holy Spirit. Betrothal in first century Israel was considered as binding as living in a married\u00a0state, so much so that divorce was necessary to break off the engagement (Matthew 1:18). Hence, they\u00a0were, in effect, already married, with Joseph being the legal spouse of Mary. Joseph was thus\u00a0considered to be the only spouse of Mary before and after the virgin birth (see Luke 1:27; 2:5,\u00a0respectively). A logical understanding of what is involved in marriage between a man and a woman\u00a0require that only Joseph could be the legal spouse of Mary. It is assumed by Rome, without proof or\u00a0mention in Scripture, that in order for the Holy Spirit to supernaturally conceive the God-Man Jesus\u00a0in her womb, she had to be married first to the Holy Spirit. This belief borders on complete absurdity,\u00a0for this was no ordinary conception.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Of course Joseph was her spouse. No one is denying that. So was (in a sense) the Holy Spirit. Dr. Baker, once again, is woefully ignorant of this motif in Scripture of God being a \u201cspouse\u201d. It\u2019s nothing new at all, and<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/mary-spouse-of-the-holy-spirit-blasphemy.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I have written about it<\/a>.<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Here is a large portion of that paper of mine:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Scripture speaks in terms of the bride being the Church, and makes analogies between marriage and Christ and His Church. So why should there be controversy about Mary being the spouse of the Holy Spirit?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">By the same general reasoning that applies to\u00a0<i>Theotokos<\/i>\u00a0(arguing solely from the Bible, not Catholic tradition), it seems to me that \u201cspouse of God\u201d would also be appropriate and non-objectionable. That Jesus\u2019 conception was of the Holy Spirit as a sort of \u201cFather\u201d is plain in the Bible [Mt 1:18-20 is then cited; cf. Lk 1:31, 34-35].<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If we ask, then, \u201cWho is Jesus\u2019 father?\u201d (in terms of the origin of His\u00a0<i>conception<\/i>), it\u2019s not Joseph, but the Holy Spirit in one sense, and God the Father in another. Multiple senses and meanings and applications are common in Holy Scripture.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">By analogy, then, if Jesus\u2019 parents were Mary and the Holy Spirit, then by simple analogy it follows that Mary (in this\u00a0<i>particular<\/i>\u00a0sense, and this\u00a0<i>alone<\/i>) is the \u201cspouse of God\u201d just as she was the Mother of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Likewise, \u201cspouse of God\u201d is thought to imply an equality with God, when in fact it\u2019s only a limited analogical description based on Mary\u2019s relation to the Holy Spirit in the matter of the conception of Jesus. This description is no more \u201cunbiblical\u201d or non-harmonious with scriptural thought than St. Paul saying \u201cwe are God\u2019s fellow workers\u201d (1 Cor 3:9; cf. 2 Cor 6:1), or St. Peter referring to men becoming \u201cpartakers of the divine nature\u201d (2 Pet 1:4; cf. 1 Jn 3:2). These are similarly understood as not entailing\u00a0<i>equality<\/i>\u00a0with God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Along these lines, there are\u00a0many biblical passages about Israel or the Church being the \u201cbride\u201d of God the Father or Jesus Christ, God the Son:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Isaiah 54:5\u00a0<\/b>For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Isaiah 62:5<\/b>\u00a0. . . as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, so shall your God rejoice over you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Jeremiah 31:32<\/b>\u00a0. . . my covenant which they broke, though I was their husband, says the LORD. (cf. 3:20)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Hosea 2:16, 19-20<\/b>\u00a0\u201cAnd in that day, says the LORD, you will call me, `My husband,\u2019 and no longer will you call me, `My Ba\u2019al.\u2019 . . . [19] And I will betroth you to me for ever; . . . (cf. 4:12; 9:1)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Matthew 9:15<\/b>\u00a0And Jesus said to them, \u201cCan the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them?\u201d (cf. Mk 2:19-20; Lk 5:34-35; Mt 25:1-10)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>2 Corinthians 11:2<\/b>\u00a0I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I betrothed you to Christ to present you as a pure bride to her one husband.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Ephesians 5:28-29, 32<\/b>\u00a0Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. [29] For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church, . . . [32] This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church (cf. Rev 19:7; 21:2; 21:9)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">IV. Mary Mediatrix and \u201cMini-Mediators\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Catholic justification for Mary\u2019s special\u00a0role of mediatrix is rationalized on the supposition that God had appointed other mediators in the\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">past. Moses acted in this capacity when he gave God\u2019s law to the nation of Israel (Exodus 32:30;\u00a0Galatians 3:19). The same Greek word for mediator that is used in 1 Timothy 2:5 is also used in\u00a0Galatians 3:19\u201320. Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong phrases such justification in this way:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Mary is Mediatrix in that way, but she is in a second sense also. God clearly uses many human beings as mediators. We\u00a0pray for each other. Moses interceded and \u201catoned\u201d for the Jews in the wilderness, and God decided not to destroy them\u00a0(Ex 32:30). If Moses could successfully intercede on behalf of an entire sinful and disobedient group, and if Abraham\u2019s\u00a0prayer could spare his nephew Lot (and potentially Sodom and Gomorrah also, if enough righteous men had been found\u00a0there: Gen 18:20\u201332), why is it so remarkable that God would choose to involve Mary in intercession and distribution of\u00a0graces to an entire sinful and disobedient group (mankind)? 84<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[Footnote] <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">84.\u00a0Dave Armstrong,<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/12\/mary-mediatrixvs-jesus-christ-sole-mediator.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cMary: A Biblical &amp; Theological Primer\u201d<\/a> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">at http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/12\/mary-mediatrixvs-jesus-christ-sole-mediator.html. Retrieved on February 8, 2017.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Despite the casuistic explanations to defend Mary\u2019s title and function as mediatrix of all\u00a0salvation graces, the death knell for Mary in the role of special Co-mediatrix is definitely and\u00a0absolutely refuted, first and foremost, by the shattering truth of 1 Timothy 2:5, which states <em>Christ\u00a0<\/em><em>alone<\/em> is the one established God-ordained Mediator between God and man. \u201c<em>For there one God, and\u00a0<\/em><em>one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus<\/em>\u201d (1 Timothy 2:5). Paul\u2019s emphatic\u00a0proclamation in 1 Timothy 2:5 is both absolute and exclusionary of any other effective Mediator of\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">the New Covenant, from whom and through the salvation of sinners is given. . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">1 Timothy 2:5 doesn\u2019t rule out secondary, non-essential \u201cmini-mediators\u201d by the grace of God. As usual, the Bible has a \u201cboth\/and\u201d outlook; not an \u201ceither\/or\u201d one, based on false dichotomies. They are not usurping the sole prerogative of Jesus Christ. They are functioning as His messengers or \u201caides\u201d in the application of the grace that always ultimately comes from God. See my papers:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/11\/one-mediator-1-tim-25-vs-all-human-mediation.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cOne Mediator\u201d (1 Tim 2:5) vs. All Human Mediation?<\/a> [10-14-08]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/12\/mary-mediatrix-vs-jesus-christ-sole-mediator.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Mediatrix vs. Jesus Christ the Sole Mediator?<\/a> [1-30-03]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/mary-mediatrix-a-biblical-explanation.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Mediatrix: A Biblical Explanation\u00a0<\/a>[1999]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/03\/biblical-evidence-for-mary-mediatrix.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical Evidence for Mary Mediatrix<\/a>\u00a0[11-25-08]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/mary-mediatrix-a-biblical-theological-primer.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Mediatrix: A Biblical &amp; Theological Primer<\/a>\u00a0[9-15-15]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">That Paul would not allow any other mediators of the saving grace of the New Covenant is\u00a0further reinforced <em>a fortiori<\/em> by the fact that he uses a one to one correspondence between the one God\u00a0and His one Mediator; for the one God corresponds in incontrovertible kind with His one Mediator\u00a0Jesus Christ. One, thus, means one only and thereby excludes all other mediators from this role.\u00a0Consequently, by logical deduction, this excludes Mary or any other person from being an additional\u00a0God-appointed mediator and dispenser of salvific graces under the New Covenant. . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Paul, and the rest of the New Testament church, . . .\u00a0 knew that God\u2019s undeserved favor (grace) was\u00a0channeled, distributed, and given by God through Jesus Christ alone\u2014the fount and great Mediator\u00a0from whence all saving grace flows and is given for the salvation of sinners. Long after Mary\u2019s death,\u00a0the apostle John wrote in the mid-nineties, in the book of Revelation, that nothing has changed with\u00a0regard to Jesus being the only source of God\u2019s saving grace: . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That\u2019s a very odd thing to claim, since Paul wrote about himself and others:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>2 Corinthians 4:15<\/b>\u00a0For it [his many sufferings: 4:8-12, 17] is all for your sake, so that as<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">grace<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>\u00a0<\/b>extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Ephesians 3:2<\/b>\u00a0assuming that you have heard of the<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">stewardship of God\u2019s grace<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000;\">that was given to me for you\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Ephesians 4:29<\/b>\u00a0Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may<\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0impart grace<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000;\">to those who hear.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Peter also stated in inspired divine revelation:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Peter 4:8b-10<\/b>\u00a0. . . love covers a multitude of sins. Practice hospitality ungrudgingly to one another. As each has received a gift, employ it for one another, as<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">good stewards of\u00a0God\u2019s varied grace<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dr. Baker tries to dismiss the above passage (used in this way) as irrelevant by writing:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">[W]hile every believer has been called to be a\u00a0steward of grace (1 Corinthians 4:1\u20132; 9:17; 1 Peter 4:10), which involves sharing the saving grace\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">that is part and parcel of the Gospel, these Christian ministers, or mediators, do not have the power or\u00a0authority to give and delegate that grace from the throne of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This is what is called in logic, a<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.logicallyfallacious.com\/tools\/lp\/Bo\/LogicalFallacies\/150\/Red-Herring\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cred herring.\u201d<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> In other words, the above claim has <em>nothing to do<\/em> with the argument as used by Catholics, since we never claimed that anyone but God was sending grace \u201cfrom the throne of God\u201d in the first place. They obviously couldn\u2019t do <em>that<\/em> because only <em>God<\/em> sits on God\u2019s <em>throne<\/em>! This is obvious from the passage itself, which employs the notion of \u201csteward of grace \u201d (or, \u201cdistributor\u201d) exactly as Catholics do in talking about Mary Mediatrix. The believer \u201creceived a gift\u201d from God and then blesses others with it, or passes it on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A related thought occurs in 4:11, where Peter refers to services rendered to others \u201cby the strength which God supplies; in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ.\u201d The scriptural notion of a spiritual gift is, of course, <em>always<\/em> presented as coming from God: \u201cgifts bestowed on us by God\u201d (1 Cor 2:12), \u201cgifts of the Spirit of God\u201d (1 Cor 2:14), \u201ceach has his own special<b>\u00a0<\/b>gift\u00a0from God\u201d (1 Cor 7:7), \u201cAll these are inspired by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills\u201d (1 Cor 12:11; referring back to his earlier reference to \u201cgifts\u201d: 12:4), \u201cgifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his own will\u201d (Heb 2:4), \u201cevery perfect<b>\u00a0<\/b>gift\u00a0is from above\u201d (Jas 1:17).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Note a fascinating thing, though, that perfectly reinforces the Catholic argument about \u201cmini-mediators\u201d or \u201cmini-distributors\u201d of God-originated \/ God-caused grace. Just as all grace comes from Him, but<em> He<\/em> often sends it <em>through<\/em> human channels or \u201cconduits\u201d, likewise, spiritual gifts all come from Him, but we see in Scripture that they, too, are sometimes<em> passed along to men from God through human intermediaries<\/em>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Romans 1:11<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0For I long to see you, that<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">I may impart to you some spiritual<b>\u00a0<\/b>gift\u00a0to strengthen you<\/span>,<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Timothy 4:14<\/strong>\u00a0Do not neglect the<b>\u00a0<\/b>gift\u00a0you have,<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">which was given you<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0by prophetic utterance<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">when the council of elders laid their hands upon you<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2 Timothy 1:6\u00a0<\/strong>Hence I remind you to rekindle the<\/span><b>\u00a0<\/b><span style=\"color: #008000;\">gift\u00a0of God<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> that is within you<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">through the laying on of my hands<\/span>;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">God gives His grace to the believer directly through Jesus Christ\u2014a fact stated multiple times in\u00a0the New Testament. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">And sometimes this grace from the Father and the Spirit through Christ comes through human beings, as just proven above.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Paul frequently states this indispensable truth in the salutary opening of his\u00a0epistles: \u201c<em>Grace to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ<\/em>.\u201d (Romans\u00a01:5; 1 Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2; Philippians 1:2; Colossians\u00a01:2; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:2; 1 Timothy 1:2; 2 Timothy 1:2; Titus 1:4; Philemon\u00a01:3).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yes He does, and of course that is true (being in Scripture). But Dr. Baker conveniently left out another biblical truth (harmonious with the above) that he didn\u2019t care for: one that shows that creatures are <em>also<\/em> involved in distributing grace from God:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Revelation 1:4<\/strong>\u00a0John to the seven churches that are in Asia: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Grace to you<\/span> and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, <span style=\"color: #008000;\">and from the seven spirits who are before his throne<\/span>,\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Isn\u2019t it interesting that \u2014 with all our marvelous searching capabilities today \u2014 Dr. Baker could find no less than <em>thirteen<\/em> Bible passages all discussing \u201cgrace and peace\u201d from God, while he somehow managed to miss Revelation 1:4. Could it be that it\u2019s because the latter neatly, definitively <em>refutes<\/em> his notions that<\/span> \u201c<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Paul would not allow any other mediators of the saving grace of the New Covenant\u201d<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> and<\/span> \u201cexcludes all other mediators\u201d <span style=\"color: #000000;\">and<\/span> \u201cexcludes Mary or any other person\u201d <span style=\"color: #000000;\">and that<\/span> \u201c(grace) was\u00a0channeled, distributed, and given by God through Jesus Christ alone\u201d <span style=\"color: #000000;\">and is given<\/span> \u201cto the believer directly through Jesus Christ\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">When I do a <a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/r\/rsv\/rsv-idx?type=proximity&amp;q1=grace&amp;operator1=Near&amp;amt1=80&amp;q2=peace&amp;operator2=Near&amp;amt2=80&amp;q3=&amp;restrict=New+Testament&amp;size=First+100\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cproximity search\u201d of \u201cgrace\u201d and \u201cpeace\u201d<\/a> in the same passage in the New Testament, on the online Bible I use, it lists all 13 of Dr. Baker\u2019s passages, plus Revelation 1:4 and four others. Perhaps in wishing to avoid John\u2019s verse that contradicts his argument, he restricted himself to Paul\u2019s epistles. Only he can tell us. In any event, the Bible contradicts him. His 13 passages contradict nothing in <em>Catholic<\/em> theology, but Revelation 1:4 and the several other related passages I have provided sure<em> do<\/em> contradict Dr. Baker\u2019s man-made theology on this point.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We have no problem whatsoever with the view that<em> God originates and gives all grace<\/em>. It <em>is<\/em> our view. We do have a problem, however, with the notion of God <em>alone<\/em> (<em>excluding<\/em> any <em>creature<\/em> participating as His agent) doing so, because it\u2019s not<em> biblical<\/em>, as has now been demonstrated beyond all counter-argument. This is so often the problem with Protestantism and it\u2019s unbiblical \u201ceither\/or\u201d approach. It talks about faith <em>alone<\/em> (while we affirm with them grace alone), and Scripture alone, etc. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It\u2019s the false and unbiblical<em> dichotomies<\/em> that we reject. We do <em>not<\/em> reject faith or Scripture. We reject putting them in isolated positions in a way that Holy Scripture never does. We heartily agree with them about the <em>scriptural<\/em> instances of things being alone: like Jesus alone being our savior, redeemer, and dying for us on the cross, and grace alone.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">V. Have I Argued (or Even <em>Claimed<\/em>) that Protestant <em>Sola Fide<\/em> Doctrine is Antinomianism?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Sadly, Roman Catholic apologists primarily reject the biblical doctrine of <em>sola fide<\/em> based on a\u00a0common misunderstanding of the doctrine. Consequently, salvation by faith alone is rejected based on\u00a0straw-man arguments constructed by the defenders of Rome. The number one straw-man argument, <em>ad\u00a0nauseam<\/em>, used by Roman Catholic apologists, is that the concept of faith alone is teaching, or at least\u00a0implying, that obedience to God\u2019s law is not important and good works performed after salvation are\u00a0ignored. The notion that one expresses an intellectual assent to believe the facts of the Gospel without\u00a0the fruit of obedient commitment to Jesus Christ is not <em>sola fide<\/em>, but the heresy of Antinomianism.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Much ink has been spilt by Catholic apologists Dave Armstrong, Patrick Madrid, Tim Staples,\u00a0and Robert Sungenis, in setting up the antinomian \u201cfaith alone\u201d straw-man argument based on a\u00a0misunderstanding of what <em>sola fide<\/em> really teaches. Historically, the Reformation theologians never\u00a0taught that the good works of the believer were inconsequential to salvation, but these works are\u00a0wrought by the supernatural outworking of the indwelling Holy Spirit within the saved believer that\u00a0shows genuine marks of spiritual regeneration and a salvation already received by faith in Jesus\u00a0Christ. These good works are not <em>antecedent<\/em> or<em> concurrent<\/em> to earn or cooperate with God for\u00a0salvation, but are the <em>necessary result<\/em> of that salvation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent (anti-Catholic) scholars like Dr. Baker\u00a0 so often are out to sea when it comes to searching a writer\u2019s material in order to determine what he or she believes on a given topic. Failing to do that, they will almost invariably embarrass themselves, as Dr. Baker does in the present instance (as I will shortly demonstrate).<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sure the good doctor is able to navigate websites and do searches. It wasn\u2019t rocket science for him to be able to figure out that <em>I don\u2019t believe at all<\/em> what he <em>falsely<\/em> accuses me of believing here. Ironically, he says I utilize antinomianism as a straw man tactic to misrepresent the classic \u201cReformation\u201d<em> sola fide<\/em> doctrine. In point of fact, it is <em>h<\/em>e who has created a straw man in making false and outrageous claims about <em>my<\/em> alleged position on this matter. How ironic, huh?<\/p>\n<p>We know Dr. Baker has at least visited <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my website<\/a> once, because he cites an article from it (seen above, regarding Mary Mediatrix).\u00a0 There are many easy ways to search it. He can do a word search on the right sidebar. I typed in \u201cantinomian\u201d there and lo and behold: look what came up first!:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/11\/martin-luther-faith-alone-is-not-lawless-antinomianism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Martin Luther: Faith Alone is NOT Lawless Antinomianism<\/a>. (all caps emphasis in the original title). This alone proves that I am not engaged in warring against straw men. I know what<em> sola fide<\/em> is (and how Protestants define it), and I know what antinomianism is, and I know that the two are not equivalent at all.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve done extremely extensive research on Protestantism and the \u201cReformation\u201d, and was an evangelical Protestant myself for thirteen years: including being a cult researcher, street evangelist, campus missionary, and apologist during that time. I know that Luther, the founder of Protestantism, did not teach it. At the end of that paper, we see a related link:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/martin-luther-good-works-prove-authentic-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Martin Luther: Good Works Prove Authentic Faith<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Without too much concerted effort word-searching (using the drop-down menus on the top) in my various related web pages:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/martin-luther-a-catholic-appraisal-index-page-for-dave-armstrong.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> Luther<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/lutheranism-catholic-critique-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Lutheranism<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/calvin-calvinism-index-page.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Calvin<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/calvinism-and-general-protestantism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Calvinism<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/salvation-justification-faith-alone.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Justification and Salvation<\/a>, Dr. Baker could also have easily run across my paper,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/john-calvin-good-works-manifest-true-saving-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">John Calvin: Good Works Manifest True Saving Faith<\/a>. This proves that I don\u2019t think Calvin was an antinomian either.<\/p>\n<p>But he was either unable, or \u2014 much more likely \u2013, <em>unwilling<\/em> to do the necessary work of documenting an opponent\u2019s views before proceeding to knock it (or rather, a mere straw man caricature of it down). He vastly underestimated his Catholic opponent (another extremely common mistake these guys make). And so he makes the dumb, clueless \u201cargument\u201d that I and other Catholic apologists are supposedly \u201c<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">setting up the antinomian \u201cfaith alone\u201d straw-man argument based on a\u00a0misunderstanding of what <em>sola fide<\/em> really teaches.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s his choice if he wants to look like a fool or not. It\u2019s not like it\u2019s the first or last time an anti-Catholic zealot manifested himself as such, in the course of battling against us poor, pathetic papists, like Don Quixote going after the windmill. It\u2019s about as frequent as the number of grains of sand in the Sahara Desert. Lest anyone <em>doubt<\/em> this for a second, see <span style=\"color: #000000;\">my<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/anti-catholicism-index-page.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Anti-Catholicism<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> and<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/08\/contra-catholicism-featuring.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">James White<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">web pages<\/span> for extremely abundant examples.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>The Image of the true Catholic Church of Christ<\/em>, according to John Foxe\u2019s\u00a0<i>Book of Martyrs<\/i>\u00a0(1563)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:The_Image_of_the_true_Catholicke_Church_of_Christ.gif\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Exodus From Rome, Volume 2: A Biblical and Historical Critique of Roman Catholicism (The Scofield Institute Press, 8 April 2018), by Todd D. Baker, is the latest of a long line of anti-Catholic critiques of Catholicism (i.e., from the perspective that Catholicism isn\u2019t a species of Christianity, and is a \u201cfalse gospel\u201d). They\u2019re utterly predictable [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":18449,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[231],"tags":[855,2361,1119,304,8,5435,5432],"class_list":["post-18446","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-anti-catholicism","tag-anti-catholic","tag-anti-catholicism","tag-catholic-church","tag-catholic-theology","tag-catholicism","tag-exodus-from-rome","tag-todd-baker"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Todd Baker&#039;s &quot;Exodus from Rome&quot; (Tradition, Mary, Sola Fide)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Anti-Catholic Todd Baker tries to refute in his book, my arguments regarding tradition &amp; sola Scriptura, Mary (three aspects), and faith alone. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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