{"id":22520,"date":"2018-08-14T12:46:25","date_gmt":"2018-08-14T16:46:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=22520"},"modified":"2018-08-14T12:46:25","modified_gmt":"2018-08-14T16:46:25","slug":"biblical-evidence-formal-prayer-isnt-vain-repetition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/biblical-evidence-formal-prayer-isnt-vain-repetition.html","title":{"rendered":"Biblical Evidence: Formal Prayer Isn&#8217;t &#8220;Vain Repetition&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-22522 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2018\/08\/DavidPrayer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"726\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">From my 2009 book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/03\/books-by-dave-armstrong-biblical.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths<\/em><\/a>, except the verses are in RSV below (not KJV).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><strong>Psalm 136:1-5 <\/strong>[1] O give thanks to the LORD, for he is good,<br>\nfor his steadfast love endures for ever.<br>\n[2] O give thanks to the God of gods,<br>\nfor his steadfast love endures for ever.<br>\n[3] O give thanks to the Lord of lords,<br>\nfor his steadfast love endures for ever;<br>\n[4] to him who alone does great wonders,<br>\nfor his steadfast love endures for ever;<br>\n[5] to him who by understanding made the heavens,<br>\nfor his steadfast love endures for ever;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The same exact phrase is repeated in 26 straight verses, for the entire Psalm. Obviously, then, God is not opposed to all repetition whatsoever. Repetition is a device used throughout the Psalms and also in Proverbs and the prophets. For example, in Psalm 29 \u201cvoice of the Lord\u201d is repeated seven times in as many verses. \u201cThou hast\u201d is repeated in six straight verses in Psalm 44:9-14.<\/p>\n<p>Instructions concerning the Mosaic Law in the first five books are extremely repetitious. Elaborate, painstaking Instructions for the ark of the covenant (Ex 25:1-22), the tabernacle (Ex 25:23-40; chapters 26-27), and the Temple (1 Kings, chapters 6-7) illustrate the highly ritualistic nature of Hebrew worship (see also Leviticus 23:37-38 and 24:5-8). The four gospels often repeat each other\u2019s sayings. Many other examples could be cited.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Matthew 6:7<\/strong> And in praying do not heap up empty phrases [KJV: \u201cvain repetitions\u201d] as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard for their many words.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Jesus is discussing \u201c<em>empty<\/em> phrases\u201d. The Greek <em>battalogeo<\/em> here means \u201cto repeat idly,\u201d or \u201cmeaningless and mechanically repeated phrases.\u201d So the Lord is condemning prayers uttered without the proper <em>reverence<\/em> or<em> respect <\/em>for God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Revelation 4:8<\/strong> And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all round and within, and day and night they never cease to sing, \u201cHoly, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>God is concerned with the <em>inner dispositions and righteousness <\/em>of the worshiper, and adherence to His commands (e.g., Is 56:6-7; Jer 17:24-26; Mal 1:11), not with outward appearance or how often something is repeated (which is contradicted by Psalm 136 and the passage above). This is a common theme in Scripture, and is seen in the following passages:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Isaiah 1:13-17<\/strong> Bring no more vain offerings; incense is an abomination to me. New moon and sabbath and the calling of assemblies \u2014 I cannot endure iniquity and solemn assembly.Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates;\u00a0they have become a burden to me, I am weary of bearing them.\u00a0When you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you;even though you make many prayers, I will not listen; your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your doings from before my eyes;\u00a0cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; defend the fatherless, plead for the widow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jeremiah 6:19-20<\/strong> Hear, O earth; behold, I am bringing evil upon this people, the fruit of their devices, because they have not given heed to my words; and as for my law, they have rejected it. To what purpose does frankincense come to me from Sheba, or sweet cane from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices pleasing to me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Amos 5:11-14, 21-24: <\/strong>Therefore because you trample upon the poor and take from him exactions of wheat, you have built houses of hewn stone, but you shall not dwell in them; you have planted pleasant vineyards, but you shall not drink their wine. For I know how many are your transgressions, and how great are your sins \u2014 you who afflict the righteous, who take a bribe, and turn aside the needy in the gate. Therefore he who is prudent will keep silent in such a time; for it is an evil time. Seek good, and not evil, that you may live; and so the LORD, the God of hosts, will be with you, as you have said . . . I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and cereal offerings, I will not accept them, and the peace offerings of your fatted beasts I will not look upon. Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen. But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. (cf. Prov 15:8; 21:27; Mal 1:6-14)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Matthew 15:7-9<\/strong> You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: \u201cThis people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.\u201d (cf. Mk 7:6-7)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Matthew 23:23<\/strong> Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.<\/p>\n<p><strong>James 1:26-27:<\/strong> If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man\u2019s religion is vain. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ritualistic, formal worship of God is described as taking place in heaven (Rev 4:8-11; 5:8-14), complete with repetitious prayer (Rev 4:8 above), and repeated chants or hymns (4:11, 5:9-10).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><i>King David in Prayer<\/i>, by\u00a0Pieter de Grebber (c. 1600-c. 1653)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:5201-king-david-in-prayer-pieter-de-grebber.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From my 2009 book, Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths, except the verses are in RSV below (not KJV). ***** Psalm 136:1-5 [1] O give thanks to the LORD, for he is good, for his steadfast love endures for ever. [2] O give thanks to the God of gods, for his steadfast love endures for ever. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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