using some of the examples most cited (e.g., St. Alphonsus de Liguori). I showed how they repeatedly stressed that Mary was Jesus\u2019 servant.<\/span><\/p>\n4. We see this even in the above excerpt, but many critics of these prayers\u00a0are blind to it, because they only see what they want<\/em> to see (Mary supposedly being put in God\u2019s place): \u201cthou art\u00a0the dispenser<\/em>\u00a0of every grace that\u00a0GOD<\/strong> grants us\u201d; \u201cHe<\/strong> hath made thee so powerful\u201d; \u201cThou art the Advocate <\/em>of the most wretched and abandoned sinners\u201d [i.e., advocate, or intercessor before God, just like Moses, Abraham, and others were]<\/span><\/p>\nNow, Protestants still don\u2019t like the devotion, but it is indisputable that this is a Christ-centered<\/em> prayer. Redemption comes from Him<\/strong>; He<\/strong> gave us Mary as an aid and help (just as Paul and Moses and Peter and a host of other holy people were).<\/span><\/p>\nWhat I detest is the ignoring of things like this, that show that these prayers presuppose that Jesus is Lord and the source<\/em> of answered prayer, not Mary: who is an intercessor (albeit the most powerful one among creatures). It\u2019s intellectually dishonest to deliberately hide a key aspect of these devotions. It misrepresents the entirety or totality of Catholic\u00a0teaching. Mary\u00a0intercedes. <\/span><\/p>\nWhen prayers state that she \u201csaves\u201d or \u201credeems\u201d us, etc., it is language used in the same sense as in the Bible (see above verses), where Paul says he saved someone, or where the wife can \u201csave\u201d the husband, etc. Protestants use this language in referring to evangelism: \u201cPreaching to save sinners,\u201d \u201cwitness in order to save souls,\u201d etc. It\u2019s no different. It\u2019s understood that it is in an intermediary or intercessory \u201cvessel of God\u201d sense, and that all grace and salvation comes from God. This is Catholic teaching.<\/span><\/p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
. . . \u201cCase Study\u201d of\u00a0the Novena to Our Lady of Perpetual Help Our Mother of Perpetual Help, a 15th Century Marian Byzantine icon. [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons] (originally posted on 11 January 2013 on Facebook) * * * * * Protestants habitually object to \u201cflowery\u201d Marian devotions, thinking that they teach an \u201cidolatrous\u201d […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":3102,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[45,206],"tags":[2357,508,556,557,198,554,550,553,555,552,551,195,504],"class_list":["post-3098","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blessed-virgin-mary","category-saints-purgatory-penance","tag-blessed-virgin-mary","tag-catholic-mariology","tag-dispensing-of-grace","tag-distribution-of-grace","tag-intercession","tag-intercessors","tag-marian-devotion","tag-mary-mediatrix","tag-mediators","tag-novenas","tag-our-lady-of-perpetual-help","tag-prayer","tag-virgin-mary"],"yoast_head":"\n
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