{"id":32153,"date":"2019-04-28T09:49:41","date_gmt":"2019-04-28T13:49:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=32153"},"modified":"2019-04-28T09:49:41","modified_gmt":"2019-04-28T13:49:41","slug":"unanswered-questions-for-a-former-catholic-atheist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/04\/unanswered-questions-for-a-former-catholic-atheist.html","title":{"rendered":"Unanswered Questions for a Former Catholic Atheist"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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\u201ccowalker\u201d<\/a> wrote on my blog<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I was raised Catholic, and went through what I think is the standard, messy de-conversion process. It started with intellectual rejection of what sophisticated theologians would say was not \u201creal\u201d Christianity. For example, Christians aren\u2019t obliged to believe a man actually lived inside a fish for three days. That\u2019s just metaphorical writing. But \u2026 it\u2019s not clear where metaphor leaves off and literal description begins. For example some Christians accept the doctrine of the Transubstantiation, while it\u2019s just another metaphor for others. Then came the emotional rebellion against authority. Why should I believe just because a bunch of old guys in weird clothes say so? And especially since there are lots of other old guys in weird clothes who say different things?<\/span><\/p>\n

This led to comparison shopping, during which it became clear that no religion could provide evidence of anything existing outside of our material universe. Each one had a hypothesis explaining the observable universe in terms of something beyond, or both outside of and encompassing our universe, but none of it was subject to proof. So it could be Zeus and Hera duking it out, or all the separated spirits trying to re-unite into one blissful godhead, or a very judgy Great Big Father handing out judgy judgments, or a weepy Jesus who just wants everybody to get along, or it might be turtles all the way down.<\/span><\/p>\n

None of this was helpful in providing moral guidance or a purpose in life. I realized that that was on me and my fellow humans. Therefore I raised my children (now grown up) as atheists. No doubt that is why they are profoundly uninterested in hearing arguments either for or against Christianity or Hinduism or Islam, or any other set of religious beliefs. For them, it\u2019s just not an issue that needs to be reswolved. I\u2019m not saying that all people raised this way would react the same. Perhaps teenage rebellion would lead to a de-conversion from atheism for some, or one of many other possible experiences..<\/span><\/p>\n

If my kids ever bothered to comment in a com box on a site discussing religion, they might say: \u201cI can understand many Christian objections and rationales for belief on an emotional plane, but I don\u2019t think that is a legitimate reason to abandon atheism.\u201d But maybe they wouldn\u2019t even get it on an emotional plane. I think maybe if you\u2019re not raised to expect the supernatural, you don\u2019t miss it.<\/span><\/p>\n

Thanks for your comment. Just curious:<\/p>\n

1. How old were you at deconversion?<\/p>\n

2. How long did the process take?<\/p>\n

3. How many books of Christian apologetics or philosophy of religion did you read, to get the best arguments in favor of Christianity, before deciding to reject it? If you did read some, can you remember the names, and\/or the authors?<\/p>\n

4. Would you say that you had been properly catechized as a Catholic, and thoroughly understood the faith before rejecting it?<\/p>\n

5. Could you have passed a quiz on the basic doctrines of Christianity (say, those agreed-upon by virtually all Christians: Nicene Creed-type beliefs): let alone the more specifically, distinctively Catholic doctrines?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I was very ignorant of theology, myself, as a young man, and at age 17 I didn\u2019t even know that Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh (the incarnation). And I was raised Methodist. Six years later I embarked on a study of apologetics, that formed my career to this day (professional apologist and author).<\/p>\n

But at 17 I was theologically dumber than a doornail; and I suspect (just guessing) that you may have been, too, at the time you left the faith. Nothing in your short account above suggests otherwise. If not, then by all means prove me wrong with counter-facts. It would be nice to find an atheist who actually substantially\u00a0understood<\/i>\u00a0that which he rejected (some system of Christian theology) when he or she became an atheist. I haven\u2019t run across one\u00a0yet<\/i>. But I hope to one day!<\/p>\n

[asked almost exactly 48 hours later]\u00a0Are you unwilling and\/or uninterested in answering my five questions?<\/p>\n

[I also received no answer to my follow-up question after another<\/em> 16 hours, as of writing; if an answer is ever received, it\u2019ll be added to this article. Folks get busy<\/em>, too, of course. I\u2019m happy to wait . . . ]<\/p>\n

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Photo credit:<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0Robert Nunnally,<\/a>\u00a0\u201cunanswered questions\u201d (2-8-09)<\/span> [Flickr<\/a> \/ CC BY 2.0 license<\/a>]<\/p>\n

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