{"id":32180,"date":"2019-04-28T11:35:45","date_gmt":"2019-04-28T15:35:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=32180"},"modified":"2019-04-28T11:56:47","modified_gmt":"2019-04-28T15:56:47","slug":"david-frenchs-hit-piece-on-franklin-graham-trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/04\/david-frenchs-hit-piece-on-franklin-graham-trump.html","title":{"rendered":"David French’s Hit-Piece on Franklin Graham & Trump"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>
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See: \u201cFranklin Graham and the High Cost of the Lost Evangelical Witness\u201d<\/a> (4-25-19).<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I don\u2019t see that French succeeds in making his point of supposed rank hypocrisy on Graham\u2019s part. Graham is not condoning sin. He wrote about the Stormy Daniels thing, as reported by an NBC article<\/a>:<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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President Trump I don\u2019t think has admitted to having an affair with this person, and so this is just a news story, and I don\u2019t even know if it\u2019s accurate.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
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That\u2019s worlds apart from saying, \u201cyes, this report is true, and I don\u2019t care whether he had an affair. It\u2019s not wrong, and it\u2019s irrelevant.\u201d Instead, in the same article, Graham stated:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I believe at 70 years of age the president is a much different person today than he was four years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago. He is not President Perfect.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
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We certainly don\u2019t hold him up as the pastor of this nation and he is not, but I appreciate the fact that the president does have a concern for Christian values, he does have a concern to protect Christians whether it\u2019s here at home or around the world and I appreciate the fact that he protects religious liberty and freedom.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
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Trump possibly<\/em>\u00a0could have changed. Anything\u2019s possible<\/em>. This is what the Never Rational Never Trumpers (in their relentless derision and cynicism) won\u2019t allow as a possibility. But Christians are to believe the best of people, not the worst.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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In another interview from November 2018<\/a>, Graham reiterated:<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I never said he was the best example of the Christian faith. He defends the faith. And I appreciate that very much. Trump has admitted his faults and has apologised to his wife and his daughter for things he has done and said. And he has to stand before God for those things. I believe that he\u2019s a changed person and I\u2019ve never seen anybody get attacked like he gets attacked. These alleged affairs, they\u2019re alleged with Trump, didn\u2019t happen while he was in office.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
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The comparison (in this charge of hypocrisy and double standards) is to President Bill Clinton, with his proven, admitted affair with an intern while in office, and eleven broken laws and loss of his law license and impeachment, and an incident before Trump took office that has not been proven as fact. Likewise, with Pete Buttigieg, his active homosexuality is readily admitted; he\u2019s proud of it. Last I checked, homosexual sex is a mortal sin. Graham is quite right to note the sinfulness of that, and he has a lot of guts in today\u2019s crazy moral climate to do so. Kudos. Bravo.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I don\u2019t see the hypocrisy or inconsistency. He\u2019s not defending sin. He is questioning whether some<\/em> of the charges against Trump are true. He\u2019s not pretending that Trump is perfect and without fault. No one I know in conservative and Christian circles has ever done that, even though certain loudmouthed folks like Pseudo-Jeremiah II constantly claim<\/em>\u00a0(lying) that this is what we do and have been doing.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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He has been divorced twice and has been in three ostensible marriages. Yep. Reagan was divorced as well and was quite the ladies\u2019 man in Hollywood. I don\u2019t see the Never Trumpers arguing that Christians were rank hypocrites en masse<\/em> for voting for Reagan because he was divorced: or for McCain in 2008 (also a divorced man). For some reason, the ire there is directed at Trump and his voters only. Double standards and hypocrisy? There<\/em>\u00a0are some.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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We want to make the Playboy interview an issue? That was in 1990 when Trump was an avowed Democrat and extreme pro-abort. Now he is neither. Or was it insincere change again? Reagan changed on both those scores. Reagan had signed a pro-abortion bill in California in 1967 that caused over 200,000 abortions before Roe. Trump never did that. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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How quickly we forget that President Carter did a Playboy interview in 1976<\/a> while he was a candidate. He was the one who claimed to be a born-again Christian. So why isn\u2019t there urinating and moaning about that? Instead we hear about Trump\u2019s interview only. <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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What we do<\/em> know for sure<\/em> is that David French is a Never Rational Never Trumper. He wants to casually toss out in his hit-piece that Trump is supposedly lying left and right. What about all the lies about Trump being a treasonous Russian agent: now thoroughly discredited by the Mueller Report? But we see French in a May 2018 interview with F. Chuck Todd<\/a>, bloviating:<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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There are an awful lot of people who are desperate, desperate to believe all of this is a bunch of non-sense. Look, I don\u2019t know what\u2019s true and what\u2019s not. All of us have very partial information right now.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
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Here\u2019s what I do know. Here\u2019s what I do know. If the son of a presidential candidate gets a message from \u2014 that is purporting to say, or that actually says, I have information to share with you from the government of Russia about a plan to help Mr. Trump and to help facilitate his election, that it is not right to respond to that with, \u201cI love it.\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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If somebody does respond with \u201cI love it,\u201d what that indicates is at the very least they were enthusiastic about potentially colluding with the Russians. Enthusiastic about it. In the face of evidence like that among many other things we could go into, to then say all this is is a witch-hunt, all this is is non-sense I think strains credulity.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I\u2019ll press the panic button on that after I see what Mueller\u2019s case is. We don\u2019t know what it is. Because I do think that if Mueller has an airtight case in the way some people speculate that he does. Again, I don\u2019t know.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n
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But if he does have an airtight case, that is going to blow up so many narratives and discredit so many people that what you are going to be left with, I would surmise \u2014 maybe I\u2019m wildly optimistic, is just tiny, tiny hardcore few, kind of like what Nixon was left with at the end of his time. Again that\u2019s all rampant speculation because we just don\u2019t know.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
Well, now we do<\/em> know . . .<\/div>\n
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I agree that a President\u2019s moral character is a highly<\/em> relevant issue. So does Franklin Graham. But we also were forced to make a choice between Trump, with all his faults, including likely much sexual sin, and the radical pro-abort with a long string of dubious legal activities, Hillary Clinton. That choice was very clear for any Christian voter (I submit). Personally, I never ever<\/em> vote for childkillers, if there is a pro-life choice on the ballot. It\u2019s a dealbreaker, in the way that being a Nazi or KKK member also would be. On the other hand, votes do not suggest or imply absolute approval of everything in a candidate\u2019s policies or life. Anyone who thinks they do<\/em> is an unthinking idiot.<\/p>\n

Lastly, one can take different views as to how much to probe a President\u2019s personal life. In JFK\u2019s and LBJ\u2019s times (no saints: either of them) it simply wasn\u2019t done at all.\u00a0 Democrats are the ones who blasted into public consciousness the notion (during the Clinton Monica Lewinsky fiasco) that one\u2019s (even a President\u2019s) private sexuality was absolutely irrelevant. And so the public largely now applies that empty-headed libertarian approach to President Trump. If Clinton\u2019s sexual sins were irrelevant, so are Trump\u2019s, whatever they may be (so they reason). I do not<\/em> think they are irrelevant, in either case. But that is the societal norm the Democrats blessed us with. You make\u00a0the\u00a0bed you lie\u00a0in . . .<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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See: \u201cFranklin Graham and the High Cost of the Lost Evangelical Witness\u201d (4-25-19). \u00a0 I don\u2019t see that French succeeds in making his point of supposed rank hypocrisy on Graham\u2019s part. Graham is not condoning sin. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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