{"id":32204,"date":"2019-04-29T19:33:45","date_gmt":"2019-04-29T23:33:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=32204"},"modified":"2019-04-29T19:33:45","modified_gmt":"2019-04-29T23:33:45","slug":"atheist-falsely-claims-i-troll-atheist-site-to-get-traffic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/04\/atheist-falsely-claims-i-troll-atheist-site-to-get-traffic.html","title":{"rendered":"Atheist Falsely Claims I Troll Atheist Site to Get Traffic"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Google Analytics Blows <em>That<\/em> Out of the Water<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32207\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2019\/04\/Traffic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"432\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Popular online atheist and anti-theist polemicist Bob Seidensticker and one of his clone-sycophants claimed that I was trying to use his site merely to drum up traffic on mine. Their words will be in <span style=\"color: #008000;\">green<\/span> and <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>, respectively.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p>This is the guy that I banned, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/why-i-blocked-anti-theist-atheist-bob-seidensticker.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">and explained why in great detail<\/a> (because he\u2019s a big shot atheist online). Three days later I saw this nonsense. There was a huge flatulent fuss on his site: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/hysterical-frenzy-vs-me-on-atheist-seidenstickers-blog.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">a \u201cfeeding frenzy\u201d against me<\/a>. It\u2019s one of the funniest things I\u2019ve ever observed online (and that\u2019s <em>sayin\u2019<\/em> somethin\u2019!). One of the more entertaining and humorous motifs among many (I almost lost my dinner, laughing) was this charge, that I blew out of the water with objective facts:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>\u201cMR\u201d:<\/strong><\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Clearly using you to try to drum up traffic to his site. Not sure how that helps him when he just turns around and bans everyone. Guy seems a little mental to me, though. This isn\u2019t normal behavior unless you\u2019re a 13 year old.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Bob Seidensticker:<\/strong><\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Is he just trying to get clicks on his posts?? Pathetic.<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/25-stupid-arguments-christians-should-avoid-part-7-2\/?fbclid=IwAR2YA7f7eYSvoBcp9I8NRFDfCpIMlbVlIQVV9-cd-A5G-JVBdmFkpZqwOsY#comment-4033899788\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">link<\/a>]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Nice try. First of all, I was second in traffic for the last month of records at Patheos Catholic, out of some 65 blogs. Secondly, we have a way to actually see what is generating traffic, called <em>Google Analytics<\/em> (Bob can do this for his site, too). Checking out mine for the period of July 1st to now, I see that the top ten most-visited posts have <em>nothing<\/em> to do with atheism:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1. Cain and his wife<br>\n2. Chappaquiddick<br>\n3. Papal guidance<br>\n4. Death penalty<br>\n5. Biblical canon<br>\n6. Death penalty<br>\n7. Early development of the papacy<br>\n8. Luther\u2019s view of priestly celibacy<br>\n9. Titles: \u201cCatholic\u201d or \u201cRoman Catholic\u201d<br>\n10. Death penalty<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Looking at the <em>next<\/em> ten most popular, I see <em>two articles<\/em> about atheism. Two out of top 20 hardly suggests that I have to rely on <em>Bob<\/em>\u2018s site (or any atheist site or interaction with them) to drive traffic to mine. It\u2019s ridiculous, and those are the objective stats to prove it. This isn\u2019t a normal \u201cargument\u201d unless you are a three-year-old.<\/p>\n<p>To his credit, Bob acknowledged the stats (he could hardly deny them), but then he just made another potshot:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">As for MR\u2019s comment, he\u2019s just trying to make sense of your actions. And they don\u2019t make sense. And that could just be our fault\u2013we assume that acting like a thoughtful adult is the best route. If you\u2019re succeeding by being a petulant schoolyard bully, that is surprising.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[For those who would like to see multitudinous examples of Bob and his clone-followers acting like <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cthoughtful adult[s]\u201d<\/span> be sure to visit just the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/hysterical-frenzy-vs-me-on-atheist-seidenstickers-blog.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">one \u201cdiscussion\u201d thread<\/a> which was a \u201cfeeding frenzy\u201d against me. You\u2019ll see in about thirty seconds that his standards for discourse are <em>vastly<\/em> different than mine. It will be most \u201cenlightening\u201d, I guarantee. Bob complained about my merely posting what he and others said about me in this thread, and wanted me to take it down. Too <em>bad<\/em>: <em>live<\/em> with it! It\u2019s public. If I am to be lied about by a bunch of fools, the very least I can do in response, is simply <em>expose<\/em> the idiotic inanities]<\/p>\n<p>MR, undaunted, continued on in the face of all evidence:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Still doesn\u2019t mean you aren\u2019t trying to use Bob to drum up traffic to your site. And your behavior is still that of a 13 year old, though it appears others appear to find you even more immature. Have you been drinking or something? This is not normal behavior.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>For those who would like to see how Seidensticker attempts to \u201cargue\u201d against Christianity and the Bible, I have now written <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=Seidensticker+Folly+%23\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">32 direct refutations<\/a> of his nonsense (after <em>he himself<\/em> challenged me to make replies): all completely ignored by him.<\/p>\n<p>My banning of him on my blog and Facebook page has no relation to whether or not he can answer. These posts are public to all. All he has to do is reply on his blog, and then notify me of it by email: apologistdave [at] gmail [dot] com. Then I will counter-reply. But he can\u2019t use the lame excuse that his banning on my blog makes it impossible for him to reply. Thus, it appears that he is<em> intellectually<\/em> (not technically) unable to do so.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, Bob himself bans people from his blog. He banned <em>me<\/em>. Many (if not most) atheists do so (to different <em>degrees<\/em>, but they definitely <em>do<\/em>). They are no different from Christians in that regard. I ban when someone doesn\u2019t abide by my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/my-comments-policy-thoughts-on-amiable-and-constructive-dialogue.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">simple rules of conduct<\/a>, which have been consistently enforced the entire 22-year time that my blog has been online. <em>Absolutely anyone<\/em> is welcome and will not be banned, as long as they conduct themselves in a civil fashion. Banning has absolutely nothing to do with what a person <em>believes<\/em>, and everything to do with how he or she <em>conducts<\/em> himself. I\u2019m sure I\u2019ve banned far more Christians than atheists.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>(originally 8-11-18 on Facebook)<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Photo credit:<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0<a class=\"hover_opacity decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/users\/GregReese-6817251\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">GregReese\u00a0<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(11-16-18)<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/photos\/traffic-cars-rush-hour-vehicle-3831030\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a> \/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/service\/license\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay License<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Google Analytics Blows That Out of the Water Popular online atheist and anti-theist polemicist Bob Seidensticker and one of his clone-sycophants claimed that I was trying to use his site merely to drum up traffic on mine. Their words will be in green and blue, respectively. ***** This is the guy that I banned, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":32207,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[124],"tags":[258,6651,1054,335,4126,5552,6648,1512,6642,6645],"class_list":["post-32204","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-atheism-agnosticism","tag-atheism","tag-atheist-christian-debate","tag-atheist-christian-dialogue","tag-atheists","tag-bob-seidensticker","tag-cross-examined","tag-double-standards","tag-hypocrisy","tag-intellectual-cowardice","tag-two-faced"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Atheist Falsely Claims I Troll Atheist Site to Get Traffic<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"When the atheist clones on 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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