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The following exchange took place with a fellow Christian and pro-lifer, in the context of a discussion about the fairness of the terminology\u00a0anti-Catholic.\u00a0<\/i>But it can stand alone in its own right, as an examination of words and titles in the vexed and emotional abortion debate. Though I think the discussion of the terms themselves is entirely \u201cobjective,\u201d I still mince no words in how I describe abortion and the worldview which condones it. So if such straightforwardness and frankness of a pro-lifer offends you, read no further. My friend\u2019s words will be in\u00a0blue<\/span>.<\/center>\n

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In the abortion debate, would you find it acceptable to call the \u201cpro-choice\u201d position \u201canti-life\u201d or even just \u201cpro-abortion\u201d?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, having been a pro-life activist and having thought a lot about the question of terminology here as well.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s face it, it really is anti-life, even if that is not the intent of the people involved, and it really is, technically, \u201cpro-abortion.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Not just technically, but very practically, in end result, I would say.<\/p>\n

But those who hold that view do not like those terms because of what they imply\u2013namely, that they don\u2019t care about life and that abortion is the main thing to them when freedom of choice is really their burden.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Again, this accepts the terms of the opponent and ultimately involves compromise of principle. We are not obliged to ever do that simply in order not to offend someone. We don\u2019t buy the whole anti-life mentality and change our terms, when ours are accurate. We know that the abortionists and proponents of this wickedness are uncomfortable with terminology precisely because its objective meanings and use expose what they advocate: child-killing; wanton destruction of innocent human life, etc. We don\u2019t change our description and accept theirs simply so they won\u2019t be offended!<\/p>\n

Arguably, this prolongs the same mentality and denial of what is going on, by granting inaccurate terms.<\/p>\n

\u201cPro choice\u201d is itself a ridiculous use of English, for the question immediately arises: \u201cchoice to do\u00a0what<\/b><\/em>?\u201d E.g., people speak of educational \u201cchoice\u201d with regard to vouchers. But everyone knows that choice of schools is the \u201cchoice\u201d referred to. Likewise, the \u201cchoice\u201d in abortion involves an intrinsically immoral \u201cchoice\u201d to kill (more specifically and precisely, murder) a preborn child. We merely point out that our opponents ought to be accurate in what they desire.<\/p>\n

If our opponents were truly for a \u201cwoman\u2019s right to choose,\u201d as they say, then why do they invariably oppose Crisis Pregnancy Centers, informed consent laws, and requirements to have abortion fully explained to them before having one? Therefore, all of the foregoing suggests that they are much more accurately described as \u201cpro-abortion.\u201d<\/p>\n

Besides, their chosen term for us is \u201canti-abortion.\u201d I have said many times that I don\u2019t mind that, as it is accurate. I\u00a0am<\/i>\u00a0against abortion. What I\u00a0do<\/i>\u00a0mind is the double standard routinely employed by the media and politicians, and academicians. They call us that, but insist on \u201cpro-choice\u201d for themselves. Besides the deficiencies outlined above, this applies a double standard by suggesting that they are primarily\u00a0for<\/i>\u00a0something, while we are merely\u00a0against<\/i>\u00a0something (i.e., the connotation of positive vs. negative).<\/p>\n

They don\u2019t want to say they are \u201cfor\u201d killing, so they use the innocuous, very American- and libertarian-sounding word \u201cchoice.\u201d This was a conscious, deliberate strategy on their part. But I say that the accurate parallel would be:<\/p>\n

\u201canti-abortion\u201d <\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013> \u201cpro-abortion\u201d<\/p>\n

This would show that one party opposes abortion, while the other \u201cespouses\u201d it in the sense that they think it should be legal, and that there is nothing ethically wrong with it.<\/p>\n

Or, another fair use would be:<\/p>\n

\u201cPro-Life\u201d <\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013> \u201cPro-Choice\u201d<\/p>\n

At least this would call both sides their own preferred title, even though \u201cpro-choice\u201d is a ridiculous, sloganistic butchery of the English language, especially when referring to savage child-killing.<\/p>\n

Or:<\/p>\n

\u201cPro-Life\u201d <\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013> \u201cPro-Abortion\u201d<\/p>\n

One side favors the protection of preborn human life; the other does not. That is an objective fact, especially for those who also oppose the death penalty (since that objection comes up so often).<\/p>\n

But that\u2019s not good enough. These people have to pick their own chosen term for us,\u00a0anti-abortion<\/i>\u00a0(rather than our self-title), and use their own name (pro-choice<\/i>) for themselves. That is the double standard, and I utterly despise such tactics. We see the same sort of thing in historiography, which is suffused with anti-Christian and anti-Catholic bias. The Christian-dominated periods of history are referred to as \u201cThe Dark Ages\u201d (where such \u201cdark\u201d things as hospitals, capitalism, universities, glorious cathedrals, and printing were developed).<\/p>\n

Much more accurate and non-pejorative would be famous historian Will Durant\u2019s term \u201cThe Age of Faith.\u201d That implies that subsequent periods have\u00a0lost<\/i>\u00a0faith<\/b>\u00a0rather than\u00a0gained\u00a0<\/i>extraordinary intelligence and wisdom which the medievals supposedly lacked, having been allegedly enslaved by the wicked Catholic Church. Likewise, with \u201cEnlightenment.\u201d The lights came on in 18th-century France (while heads rolled down the streets like bowling balls, one after another). What a joke!<\/p>\n

Now, however much I disagree with them and however much I want their position to be seen for the abhorrence that it is (as I\u2019m sure you agree with me), labeling them things like \u201cpro-abortion\u201d or \u201canti-life\u201d is not the way to accomplish this. It is simply unfair because it communicates this truth simply by a label rather than by rational argumentation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I completely disagree. I think the terminology as I discussed it above\u00a0is<\/i>\u00a0the rational and fair way of going about it. Fighting abortion is not a Madison Avenue PR campaign. The pro-abortionists are the ones distorting the English language, and for the worst possible reasons. Why am I required to imply (very subtly) that I go along with their worldviews by using this warped terminology?<\/p>\n

Arguably, that prolongs the practice of legal abortion, because we grant them their wicked categories of thought. All revolutions seek to change terminology in order to succeed. Thus Marxism had denigrating terms for capitalists and rich people. The Sexual Revolution turned debauchery, whoring, and philandering into \u201cfree love\u201d and \u201ctry before you buy.\u201d The old \u201cbad girls\u201d or \u201cloose women\u201d became \u201csensible career women\u201d and male lechers and sexual predators became simply \u201c[sexually active] bachelors\u201d and \u201csingle guys [expected to indulge].\u201d<\/p>\n

The abnormal became \u201cnormal\u201d; the immoral \u201cmoral\u201d or a \u201clifestyle choice\u201d which no one can \u201cjudge.\u201d Nazism had a number of epithets for Jews. Bigoted white Americans had offensive terms for black people, and some blacks returned the favor. The goal now is to dehumanize the preborn child, so that the sin of murdering it is sugar-coated. And you want to\u00a0grant<\/i>\u00a0them this goal of distorting terminology out of \u2014 in my humble opinion \u2014 a false sense of what \u201ccharity\u201d is?<\/p>\n

Or, if you disagree with that, there is another reason: it just seems that grace calls us to concede here and avoid the terms this movement says unfairly characterizes them.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I deny that it is unfair, but I am willing to call them \u201cpro-choice\u201d if they will refer to us routinely as \u201cpro-life.\u201d Or I will accept \u201canti-abortion\u201d as long as they call themselves \u201cpro-abortion\u201d (which I believe is the most fair, sensible compromise).<\/p>\n

The abhorrence of their position can be seen through other means; we don\u2019t need to use labels to do that. And, for the sake of harmony, we shouldn\u2019t use labels to do that.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Let them reciprocate, and I am willing, as I said. I will not use \u201cpro-choice\u201d until then, because it is both inaccurate and incomplete, and represents the worst sort of cynical propaganda and unconcern for \u201cthe truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.\u201d<\/p>\n

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\u201cPro-Abortion\u201d: \u201cBad Faith\u201d Term or Fair Description?\u00a0<\/a>[8-4-17]<\/p>\n

\u201cPro-Abortion\u201d: Reply to an Objection to its Use\u00a0<\/a>[7-20-18]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Photo credit:<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0David Jackmanson<\/a>\u00a0(10-9-09):\u00a0Pro Choice Rally, Queens Park, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia<\/span> [Flickr<\/a> \/ CC BY 2.0<\/a> license]<\/p>\n

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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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