{"id":3440,"date":"2015-09-23T08:26:27","date_gmt":"2015-09-23T12:26:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=3440"},"modified":"2017-05-20T14:14:14","modified_gmt":"2017-05-20T18:14:14","slug":"my-romantic-imaginative-conversion-to-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/my-romantic-imaginative-conversion-to-christianity.html","title":{"rendered":"My &#8220;Romantic \/ Imaginative&#8221; Conversion to Christianity"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"font-weight: normal; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #141823;\">Original title:\u00a0<strong>\u201cRomanticism, Wagner, C. S. Lewis, Christianity, and Me\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"font-weight: normal; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"font-weight: normal; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2015\/09\/MichiganRomanticism.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3441 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2015\/09\/MichiganRomanticism.jpg\" alt=\"MichiganRomanticism\" width=\"467\" height=\"243\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"font-weight: normal;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">On the northern coast of Lake Michigan in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, 1998<\/span> [my photograph]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">(originally written in 1997; slightly revised on 19 September 2003 and \u00a0slightly edited and expanded on 23 September 2015)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">* * * * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"font-weight: normal;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">If I was anything at all, religiously speaking, I was a nature mystic before I became an evangelical Protestant Christian in 1977. I relate to C. S. Lewis\u2019 story in\u00a0<i>Surprised by Joy<\/i>\u00a0in many respects: the experiences of the painful, melancholy, yet \u201cjoyful\u201d yearnings he calls\u00a0<i>sehnsucht,<\/i>\u00a0the fascination with mythology and fantasy, as exemplified in music by Wagner,\u00a0<i>Northernness,<\/i>\u00a0the Middle Ages, knights, castles, Camelot, fairy-tales,\u00a0<i>Robin Hood<\/i>, Celtic mythology, etc. This is an idealized, mythological, parabolic, analogical, poetic thought-picture and \u201cworld\u201d (in retrospect very \u201cmedieval\u201d and Catholic).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">I instinctively sensed the\u00a0<i>God-behind-nature<\/i>, never wholly descending to paganism or pantheism (although I toyed with several brands of the occult). Lewis discovered to his surprise that Romanticism was a bridge leading to Christianity. That might be said to be true for me as well. Romanticism was and is very dear and special to me, and I think at bottom it is essentially Christian, whether consciously or not. What the true Romantic seeks can only be\u00a0<i>consummated\u00a0<\/i>within a Christian worldview and structure.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">So when I first heard orchestral excerpts of Richard Wagner\u2019s\u00a0<i>Ring of the Nibelungs<\/i>\u00a0in 1974 (for those unfamiliar with it, think of a musical version of <em>Lord of the Rings<\/em>), it was very much a religious, quintessentially romantic, indescribable, astounding mystical experience. Here was gorgeous, inspired music which immediately conjured up all these deep, mystical, other-worldly images which I found within myself from an early age. Beethoven had that effect, too, in a lesser fashion: his music was more abstract, not conjuring up images so much as the strivings and aspirations of man, dynamism, the will to overcome adversity (symbolized by his own ineffably tragic deafness), etc.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Beethoven\u2019s\u00a0<i>Ninth Symphony\u00a0<\/i>in particular is nothing less than a testament to the human spirit, which is, of course, derived from God\u2019s image, and one might say that it is almost a religious experience to hear it. An online acquaintance shared with me that she never felt God\u2019s presence so undeniably as in certain points of Beethoven\u2019s\u00a0<i>Ninth<\/i>. I also experienced very much the same feeling upon first hearing Gustav Mahler\u2019s\u00a0<i>First Symphony<\/i>, a work likewise steeped in Germanic nature mysticism and Romantic wonder, in both its ecstatic and terrifying elements (and I first heard the triumphalistic last movement, for those who are familiar with this work).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">C. S. Lewis, in his extraordinary autobiography\u00a0<i>Surprised by Joy,<\/i>\u00a0recounts experiences and thought-processes (during his nominally Christian days, between the ages of thirteen and fifteen) very similar to mine at the same period of my life \u2013 which in turn reinforces his contention that such experiences are well-nigh universal:<\/span><\/div>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">I had read . . . the words\u00a0<i>Siegfried and the Twilight of the Gods<\/i>. What I had seen was one of Arthur Rackham\u2019s illustrations to that volume. I had never heard of Wagner, nor of Siegfried . . . Pure \u201cNorthernness\u201d engulfed me: a vision of huge, clear spaces hanging above the Atlantic in the endless twilight of Northern summer, remoteness, severity . . . and almost at the same moment I knew that I had met this before, long, long ago . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">And with that plunge back into my own past there arose at once, almost like heartbreak, the memory of Joy itself, the knowledge that I had once had what I had now for years, that I was returning at last from exile and desert lands to my own country; and the distance of the Twilight of the Gods and the distance of my own past Joy, both unattainable, flowed together into a single, unendurable sense of desire and loss, which suddenly became one with the loss of the whole experience, which, as I now stared round that dusty schoolroom like a man recovering from unconsciousness, had already vanished, had eluded me at the very moment when I could first say\u00a0<i>It is<\/i>.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">And at once I knew (with fatal knowledge) that to \u201chave it again\u201d was the supreme and only important object of desire . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">All this time I had still not heard a note of Wagner\u2019s music . . . I first heard a record of the\u00a0<i>Ride of the Valkyries<\/i>. They laugh at it nowadays, and, indeed, wrenched from its context to make a concert piece, it may be a poor thing. But I had this in common with Wagner, that I was thinking not of concert pieces but of heroic drama. To a boy already crazed with \u201cthe Northernness,\u201d whose highest musical experience had been Sullivan, the\u00a0<i>Ride<\/i>\u00a0came like a thunderbolt. From that moment Wagnerian records (principally from the\u00a0<i>Ring<\/i>, but also from\u00a0<i>Lohengrin<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0<i>Parsifal<\/i>) became the chief drain on my pocket money . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">\u201cMusic\u201d was one thing, \u201cWagnerian music\u201d quite another, and there was no common measure between them; it was not a new pleasure but a new kind of pleasure, if indeed \u201cpleasure\u201d is the right word, rather than trouble, ecstasy, astonishment, \u201ca conflict of sensations without name.\u201d<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: black;\">. . . You will misunderstand everything unless you realize that, at the time, Asgard and the Valkyries seemed to me incomparably more important than anything else in my experience . . . More shockingly, they seemed much more important than my steadily growing doubts about Christianity . . . If the Northernness seemed then a bigger thing than my religion, that may partly have been because my attitude toward it contained elements which my religion ought to have contained and did not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">It was not itself a new religion, for it contained no trace of belief and imposed no duties. Yet . . . there was in it something very like adoration, some kind of quite disinterested self-abandonment to an object which securely claimed this by simply being the object it was . . . Sometimes I can almost think that I was sent back to the false gods there to acquire some capacity for worship against the day when the true God should recall me to Himself . . .<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: black;\">Secondly, this imaginative Renaissance almost at once produced a new appreciation of external nature . . . I was always involuntarily looking for scenes that might belong to the Wagnerian world . . . But soon . . . nature ceased to be a mere reminder of the books, became herself the medium of the real joy. I do not say she ceased to be a reminder. All Joy reminds. It is never a possession, always a desire for something longer ago or further away or still \u201cabout to be.\u201d<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">(<i>Surprised by Joy<\/i>, New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1955, 72-73, 75-78)<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">His descriptions of what he felt upon hearing Wagner\u2019s music (especially the <\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><i>Ring<\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">) are uncannily like my own experiences. It conjured up images in his head of \u201cheroic drama . . . ecstasy, astonishment\u201d and displayed \u201celements which my religion ought to have contained . . . very like adoration.\u201d Lewis ends his extraordinary recollections by observing that he came across \u201cthe false gods there to acquire some capacity for worship against the day when the true God should recall me to Himself.\u201d <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"> I read this work of Lewis several years after my own stunning, quasi-religious encounter with Wagner\u2019s music. I had never come across anything that so incredibly described my own interior feelings, that I was not able to verbalize (or possibly not even <\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><i>conceptualize<\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">) at all until I read Lewis, writing about almost identical experiences and feelings of his own. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"> Here was the meeting of music and religion (what is sometimes called \u201cimaginative \u2013 or romantic \u2013 theology\u201d), just as I had already experienced the intersection of architecture and stained glass with vague religious feeling, years earlier in my young life. If God can\u2019t reach us through the mind and theology, He has many other ways. In my case, knowing my interests, He drew me to Himself via art, music, and nature.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">In my own vague, ethereal, only half-conscious Romanticism \u2014 before I was educated enough to be able to understand, let alone articulate, Christian doctrines and dogmas \u2014 I subconsciously sought out religious experiences or intimations which transported me into \u201creligious,\u201d \u201cmystical,\u201d \u201csupernatural,\u201d \u201cfantastic\u201d realms. Romantic orchestral music (above all, Wagner) served this \u201csecondary\u201d function for me. Nature was another such medium. I found everything there symbolic and parabolic. The forest wilderness, for example, represented the \u201cother,\u201d the unattainable, the transcendent, the fairy-tale environment.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Of course I knew the reality was otherwise, but that is beside the point: sheer idealism and symbolism is what matters in such imaginings. Mountains and oceans also fulfilled this role in my fantasy-ruminations, as they have in countless works of literature, music, poetry, and painting.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Various mythologies and quasi-historical \u201cworlds\u201d played into this as-yet undefined mysticism: the \u201cwild west,\u201d colonial America, knights, Robin Hood and William Tell, King Arthur, Greek mythology, the American Indians, the ancient Egyptians, pristine ancient Ireland and its elves, the Scottish Highlands and its legends and ghosts, the Alps, the Black Forest and Rhine River in Germany, even some of the biblical figures (about whom I knew little), etc. I didn\u2019t know how many other people possessed these feelings. Nor was I likely to inquire. I was happy to find out that my wife Judy felt much the same way (she loves Wagner, too), as did C. S. Lewis (per the above excerpts).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">Alas, at that time I had no inkling of the fact that what has been called the \u201cmythopoeic imagination\u201d is deeply, profoundly Christian and substantially identical with the \u201cmedieval worldview.\u201d Malcolm Muggeridge wrote about this symbolism in an article entitled \u201cNature is a Parable\u201d (after a phrase from Newman):<\/span><\/div>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">Everything that happens to us or in connection with us, all the happenings in the world, great and small, the whole exterior phenomenon of nature and of life \u2014 all that amounts to God speaking to us, sending out messages in code, and faith is the key whereby we may decipher them. It sounds very simple, but it\u2019s somehow difficult to convey exactly . . . Nature is speaking to us. It is a parable of life itself, a revelation of fearful symmetry . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black;\">(<i>National Review<\/i>, December 24, 1982, 1608)<\/span><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">The notion of nature being a\u00a0<i>parable<\/i>\u00a0(it is no coincidence that Jesus often utilized agricultural parables to illustrate principles of the kingdom of heaven) is also part and parcel of the\u00a0<i>Incarnation\u00a0<\/i>and its extension of\u00a0<i>sacramentalism<\/i>. For God became man (John 1:1-5,14-18) and in so doing raised matter and particularly human flesh to untold heights. Thus creation bespeaks not only God\u2019s existence as Creator, but also His ineffable glory, as we know from God\u2019s own revelation (Romans 1:19-20).<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Most of us could ascertain that apart from revelation by means of experiences and insights such as those described presently. But others, due to an improper upbringing, misfortune, misinformation, or rebellion (Romans 1:18-32) cannot (or,\u00a0<i>will<\/i>\u00a0not) see God in His creation, which \u2014 with us \u2014 awaits \u201credemption\u201d (Romans 8:19-25).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">In other words, I was experiencing God and Christianity on an unconscious level, by means of nature, fantasy, myth, and music. Christianity is the fulfillment of all this longing. C. S. Lewis often makes the argument throughout his works that such intense, painfully powerful yearnings within us are grounded in the fact that we were made for heaven. The fleeting pangs of nostalgia, melancholy, vivid dreams, idealism, the <em>Quest<\/em>, paradise, (deja vu?), etc. which so infect us are thus explained as having an origin in ontological, spiritual, divinely-ordained reality.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Not only that, I will speculate further (hopefully not excessively so) and submit that within all of us is an innate consciousness of immortality and a sense of \u201cpre-existence\u201d (as Wordsworth alludes to in his poetry): not in the monistic, eastern sense of reincarnation, but rather, in the idealistic Platonic sense of eternal existence in the omniscient mind of God, the First Cause, the Creator, in whom \u201cwe live and move and have our being\u201d (Acts 17:28). Perhaps also we retain a consciousness of the Garden of Eden and the pristine, luminescent, perfect, unfallen paradisal earth, which reappears in frustratingly short-lived instances of the painful Nostalgia or\u00a0<i>sehnsucht<\/i>\u00a0which Lewis so marvelously describes.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Since orthodox Christianity accepts the notion of a corporate Fall of the entire human race (i.e., Original Sin \u2013 see 1 Corinthians 15:22), why would it not be possible for us to have some slightest hint and remnant within us of what we have lost? And this \u2014 if true \u2014 would be yet another one of the many ways in which God speaks to us and intimates that there is something much <em>better<\/em>\u00a0that awaits us, both in this life (once a commitment to Christ is made), and especially in the next, where those of us who are to be saved shall at last be made perfect, receive our resurrected bodies, and live in utmost bliss worshiping God and enjoying the New Heaven and Earth and each other forever (Revelation 21:1-27, 22:1-5).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">I strongly, passionately believe all this now, but back in the late sixties and early seventies (during roughly the ages of ten to twenty in my life), I was searching for the meaning which lay behind my \u201cmystical\u201d experiences and ruminations. I still vividly recall the profound, quasi-religious experience of\u00a0<i>2001: A Space Odyssey<\/i>\u00a0and its incredible \u201clight show\u201d which represented a trip through eternity, time and space. I viewed this again on a wide screen last year, and the scene still has the capacity of leaving me (and many others) dumbstruck with awe. There is something\u00a0<i>behind\u00a0<\/i>all of that, which gives it its challenging, \u201cspiritual\u201d quality.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It was another religious experience brought on by the art of cinema and music, with philosophical and scientific aspects also added in. My inquisitive mysticism and curiosity were running wild. This was literally my \u201creligion\u201d in 1968, after the \u201cdud\u201d of my previous Methodist churchgoing experience. Hearing Wagner took it a step further six years later.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">During this period I sought the transcendent and supernatural in the occult, ESP, the ouija board, telepathy, and an intense fascination with ghost stories and \u201cunexplained happenings\u201d (UFOs,\u00a0<i>Night Gallery, The Twilight Zone, One Step Beyond, The Outer Limits<\/i>, etc.). Then I became interested in Eric von Daniken (sp?) and his\u00a0<i>Chariots of the Gods<\/i>\u00a0series of quack pseudo-scientific, ersatz archaeological speculations. While these were the wrong avenues to reach the true God, yet God in His mercy used them to bring me to Himself. He eventually revealed to me that He was the fulfillment of all these aspirations.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">I believed in the spiritual, supernatural world, but I needed a doctrinal, rational basis upon which to discern truth from falsity, good from evil, edifying from destructive. All this is a fair indication, I think, that the drive for God and the transcendent is inherently within us, whether or not we understand the origin and goal of it. We are made in\u00a0<i>God\u2019s<\/i>\u00a0image \u2014 funny that we should constantly try to remake God in\u00a0<i>our<\/i>\u00a0image.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">C. S. Lewis (my favorite writer), was also seriously involved in the occult in the period just before his encounter with Wagner and \u201cNorthernness\u201d:<\/span><\/div>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Now, for the first time, there burst upon me the idea that there might be real marvels all about us, that the visible world might only be a curtain to conceal huge realms uncharted by my very simple theology. And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since \u2013 the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean [I do, very well] . . . It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">(<i>Ibid<\/i>., 60)<\/span><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">As it turned out, God also saw to it that my morbid fascination for the unknown and the mysterious got channeled into an interest in Bible prophecy, shortly before, and for several years after my conversion. That allowed me to explore an area of \u201ctranscendent,\u201d \u201cunusual\u201d happenings, all the while remaining within orthodox Christianity.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Christianity is the environment and backdrop within which a proper, ethical, inspiring, soul-moving, beautiful Romantic ethos grounded in truth and reality can flourish and cause no harm. Without that base,\u00a0<i>German Romanticism\u00a0<\/i>reduces to Nazism, the\u00a0<i>French Revolution<\/i>\u00a0to tyranny, severed heads rolling down church aisles, and Napoleon,\u00a0<i>Hegelian Idealism<\/i>\u00a0to Stalinist Communism,\u00a0<i>Bohemian\u00a0<\/i>and\u00a0<i>Beatnik Romanticism<\/i>\u00a0to drunkenness, libertinism, madness, and debauchery,\u00a0<i>Hippie Romanticism<\/i>\u00a0to drug deaths and broken marriages and homes due to sexual promiscuity, and\u00a0<i>\u201cSexually-liberated\u201d Romanticism<\/i>\u00a0to perversion, child molestation, massive sexual harassment and divorce, and partial-birth \u201cabortion\u201d (infanticide).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">All this flows from disconnecting an unbridled, relativistic, antinomian \u201cRomanticism\u201d from both metaphysical reality and true love and ethics, and by making the Romantic endeavors\u00a0<i>ends in themselves, rather than signposts of and towards God<\/i>. Christianity provides meaning, content, purpose, and ethics to our innate Romantic longings, and it was the realization of this which was crucial in making me decide to wholeheartedly follow Christ and devote my life to Him. Only then can hope and idealism flourish unhindered, and the horrible twin scourges of cynicism and pride die a well-deserved and welcome death (well, almost!).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">In terms of popular music, Van Morrison, whom I joyfully discovered in 1979 provided another delightful avenue of Romanticism of Wagnerian proportions for me. He is an Irish Romantic Mystic and Musical Poet. He helped usher me into a vague Celtic mysticism, which I now know is Christian and Catholic at bottom. Likewise, the free-association poetic Romanticism of the early and \u201cmiddle period\u201d Bob Dylan . . . It is no accident that both Dylan and Morrison have professed (and expressed in music) Christianity, although it is by no means certain how morally consistent or \u201corthodox\u201d either of them are. At any rate, the Romanticism and idealism which is prevalent in their music (especially Morrison\u2019s), are directly attributable to Christianity, and \u2014 in my humble opinion \u2014 are\u00a0<em>fully<\/em> enjoyed within that framework and milieu.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">1977 was the worst year of my life, because I experienced a massive, six-month clinical bout of depression.\u00a0I\u2019ve always interpreted what I call the terrifying \u201cGreat Depression\u201d period of my life as God, in effect, saying, \u201cokay, Dave. You want to live <i>without<\/i> Me? Do you <i>truly<\/i> want to see what it would be like to live a life of no hope and meaning; a world without God? Alright; I\u2019ll let you do that.\u201d And I saw what a truly Godless, nihilistic universe would be like and wanted no part of that whatsoever! I couldn\u2019t play that game anymore.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In my case, obviously God knew (being omniscient) that I would soon cry out, so it was literally an act of mercy to give me totally over to my own corrupt desire of living a life of \u201cpractical atheism.\u201d Many atheists can delude themselves and pretend as if a world without God still has meaning, but I was allowed the privilege of seeing what a consistent atheism leads and reduces to: black despair and meaninglessness.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Shortly after I converted in 1977 (in the middle of this depression), I wrote a poem which merged stories of Jesus with nature, sort of a St. Francis-type of ethos and mindset, which was the culmination and fitting conclusion of my odyssey from nature mysticism to Christianity.\u00a0This poem literally connected my \u201cnature romanticism\u201d to Christianity and being a disciple of Jesus. Here it is:<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><i>The Dream<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Once I had a dream<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">A very special dream<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">mountains<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">rivers<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">forests<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">glowed with pristine gleam<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">sky of deepest blue<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">clouds<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">white dove in flight<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">sun with mighty splendor shone on earth so very bright<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Pastures in the morning<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Beautiful<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">green<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">country scent<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Down into the valley seeking solitude I went<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">slowly I walked, looking for what I had never found<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Longing to hear the loveliness of nature\u2019s sounds<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">music of birds singing<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">flowing water<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">filled my head<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Lying on the ground wondering<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">with only leaves for a bed<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Nature in all its magnificence and glory so near<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">No reason \u2013 says the sky \u2013 to feel any fear<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I am here<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Look and you will see<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Come follow me and you shall be free<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Sun on the horizon<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Grandeur in blazing orange red<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">so much to understand<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">New ideas filled my head<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I made my way up the hill as night began to fall<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I was lost and confused when I heard someone call<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">This man knew my name and my thoughts, which was odd<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">And before long we started talking about God<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I was astounded by how much he knew<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">He spoke with a wisdom possessed by very few<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">We arrived at his house and I said goodbye<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">He embraced me and looked directly into my eyes<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Deep down in my soul I knew the reason why<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I awoke with Heaven\u2019s rays shining down on my face<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Full of joy and peace and an indescribable grace<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Who was he whom I met last night?<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I pondered as I watched a white dove in flight<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Then I understood what had happened the day before<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Now I shall know the meaning of love forevermore<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I still don\u2019t find the poem corny (though I can easily see how someone <em>else<\/em> might), 38 years later, after lots of life experience and a much deeper knowledge of Christianity and the Christian life. I feel those things just as strongly now as when I wrote them. It expresses the Other, the Transcendent (mediated through nature), and (most importantly) a mystic communion with God (particularly the incarnate Son, Jesus).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If God could be mediated through His creation, then it is easy to see an almost intrinsic connection between this and sacramentalism: God conveys grace through nature. The longing we feel when we gaze upon a spectacular mountain vista, for example, is similar to a spiritual longing for heaven. There is something much, much deeper there. It\u2019s not only (or primarily) about a mass of rock, geology, senses, and optic science. God has put a <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>meaning<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> into those things, and it leads men to Himself.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">Judy and I had a medieval wedding in 1984, which is consistent with many of these yearnings and loves, many of which are shared by my wife. We were inspired by Christian musician Kemper Crabb and his album\u00a0<i>The Vigil,\u00a0<\/i>as well as John Michael Talbot and some of Phil Keaggy\u2019s more mellow, acoustic music (e.g.,\u00a0<i>The Master and the Musician<\/i>), all of which we played at our wedding. History, music, romantic fantasy, and theology; that was our wedding, and I think we managed to pull off a non-corny \u201cliving fairy-tale\u201d (like \u201cliving history\u201d).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">In the Detroit area we have an annual Renaissance Festival, which influenced our wedding. I\u2019ll never forget a moment one time there, as the sun was starting to go down. I experienced an incredible instant of\u00a0<i>sehnsucht,<\/i>\u00a0Lewis\u2019s\u00a0<i>Joy<\/i>, as if I were actually back in that time. It was heavily wooded, and the sights and sounds just took me away for that amazing moment or two: an astonishingly vivid, enchanting pang of simultaneously ecstatic and excruciatingly painful yearning.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: black;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\">Somewhat similar in a sense to my love for the Middle Ages, is my love of Autumn, which ties into the notion of \u201cnature as a parable\u201d very nicely, and which is obviously a prevalent Romantic theme in poetry, painting, and music. Lewis had written about that, too, so that once again, I found someone else who had uncannily almost experienced the very same feelings and longings that I had. Until I had read Lewis in the late 70s, I didn\u2019t know that anyone else did!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I shall close this rambling, incoherent survey of Romanticism and its intersections with Christianity (and my own life) with another illuminating quote from the great C. S. Lewis:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">I do not think the resemblance between the Christian and the merely imaginative experience is accidental. I think that all things, in their way, reflect heavenly truth, the imagination not least . . . Only when your whole attention and desire are fixed on something else \u2013 whether a distant mountain, or the past, or the gods of Asgard \u2013 does the \u201cthrill\u201d arise. It is a by-product. Its very existence presupposes that you desire not it but something other and outer . . .\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">(<i>Ibid<\/i>., 167-168)<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">And what is that \u201cother and outer?\u201d We were informed of that by the psalmist King David of Jerusalem almost 3000 years ago:<\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night declares knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words; their voice is not heard; yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: black; font-family: inherit;\">(Psalm 19:1-4; RSV)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #cc33cc;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Original title:\u00a0\u201cRomanticism, Wagner, C. S. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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