{"id":34536,"date":"2019-06-24T12:54:27","date_gmt":"2019-06-24T16:54:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=34536"},"modified":"2019-06-24T16:55:37","modified_gmt":"2019-06-24T20:55:37","slug":"freemasonry-ive-had-links-about-it-on-my-site-since-2000","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/06\/freemasonry-ive-had-links-about-it-on-my-site-since-2000.html","title":{"rendered":"Freemasonry? I&#8217;ve Had Links About it On My Site Since 2000"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>I have vigorously opposed theological liberalism all this time, too<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34539\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2019\/06\/Freemasonry3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"617\"><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve traced links on that topic on my website to 2 may 2000: six years before Taylor Marshall was even received into the Church. This is nothing new. We apologists have known about it all along. Here is <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20000502065508\/http:\/\/ic.net\/~erasmus\/RAZ159.HTM\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an archived page from that date<\/a>, of my \u201cHeresies, the Occult, and the New Age Movement\u201d web page.<\/p>\n<p>You can see the section \u201cFreemasonry\u201d which contains links to the 1983 Vatican <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cin.org\/users\/james\/files\/masons1.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Declaration on Masonic Associations<\/a> (under Cdl. Ratzinger (I linked to it on Jimmy Akin\u2019s website).<\/p>\n<p>I also linked to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/cathen\/09771a.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Catholic Encyclopedia<\/em> entry on the topic<\/a>; dated 1910. Excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Benedict XIV appeals more urgently to Catholic princes and civil powers to obtain their assistance in the struggle against Freemasonry. Pius VII condemns the secret society of the Carbonari which, if not an offshoot, is \u201ccertainly an imitation of the Masonic society\u201d and, as such, already comprised in the condemnation issued against it. Leo XII deplores the fact, that the civil powers had not heeded the earlier papal decrees, and in consequence out of the old Masonic societies even more dangerous sects had sprung. Among them the \u201cUniversitarian\u201d is mentioned as most pernicious. \u201cIt is to be deemed certain\u201d, says the pope, \u201cthat these secret societies are linked together by the bond of the same criminal purposes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gregory XVI similarly declares that the calamities of the age were due principally to the conspiracy of secret societies, and like Leo XII, deplores the religious indifferentism and the false ideas of tolerance propagated by secret societies. Pius IX [213] characterizes Freemasonry as an insidious, fraudulent and perverse organization injurious both to religion and to society; and condemns anew \u201cthis Masonic and other similar societies, which differing only in appearance coalesce constantly and openly or secretly plot against the Church or lawful authority\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Leo XIII (1884) says: \u201cThere are various sects, which although differing in name, rite, form, and origin, are nevertheless so united by community of purposes and by similarity of their main principles as to be really one with the Masonic sect, which is a kind of centre, whence they all proceed and whither they all return.\u201d The ultimate purpose of Freemasonry is \u201cthe overthrow of the whole religious, political, and social order based on Christian institutions and the establishment of a new state of things according to their own ideas and based in its principles and laws on pure Naturalism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In view of these several reasons Catholics since 1738 are, under penalty of excommunication, incurred ipso facto, and reserved to the pope, strictly forbidden to enter or promote in any way Masonic societies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Additionally, I had \u2014 by that date \u2014 five more related links, including an article by Karl Keating, posted at Catholic Answers, from <em>This Rock<\/em>\u00a0in June 1993, entitled, <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20000604190724\/http:\/\/www.ewtn.com\/library\/ANSWERS\/CAMASON1.TXT\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhat is the Catholic Church\u2019s official position on Freemasonry? Are Catholics free to become Freemasons?\u201d<\/a> Here is an excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Masonry is also a secret society. . . .<\/p>\n<p>Historically, one of Masonry\u2019s primary objectives has been the destruction of the Catholic Church; this is especially true of Freemasonry as it has existed in certain European countries.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My website began in February 1997, so this is documented proof that I was opposing this error within three years of its inception.<\/p>\n<p>Nothing new there whatever. I\u2019m glad Taylor is educating Catholics about the danger of Freemasonry (including the infiltration of Catholic institutions). Welcome to the club, Taylor! I\u2019ve been doing this for many years: as well as decrying theological liberalism from time immemorial (all the way back to 1982, as a Protestant apologist and researcher).<\/p>\n<p>One can see my web page: \u201cTheological Liberalism and Modernism (and \u201cDead\u201d and \u201cNominal\u201d Catholics)\u201d in an <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20000416234620\/http:\/\/ic.net\/~erasmus\/RAZ418.HTM\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">archived version, dated 16 April 2000<\/a>, filled with tons of links and many of my own articles on this dreadful error.\u00a0Moreover, my book,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/books-by-dave-armstrong-twin-scourges-thoughts-on-anti-catholicism-and-theological-liberalism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em> Twin Scourges: Thoughts on Anti-Catholicism &amp; Theological Liberalism<\/em><\/a> dates from June 2003.<\/p>\n<p>My concern and warnings about Freemasonry in particular have continued to the present time. On my site right now is the paper, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/09\/catholic-refutations-of-freemasonry-links.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cCatholic Refutations of Freemasonry (Collection of Links).\u201d<\/a> It is dated 6-28-10, back in the good ol\u2019 days of Catholic unity, when Marshall still thought I was \u201cone of the best cyber-apologists out there.\u201d I added additional links on 9-26-16. It now contains 14 educational links.<\/p>\n<p>The web page, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/liberal-theology-modernism-index-page.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cLiberal Theology &amp; Modernism\u201d<\/a> is still there now, too.<\/p>\n<p>So I have opposed this from the time before Taylor was even a Catholic. The difference is that I deny that Freemasonry has subverted an ecumenical council and popes. I think all such conspiracies to change the Catholic religion have failed. They\u2019ve caused tons of damage to souls (I agree), but they haven\u2019t succeeded in changing Church doctrine.<\/p>\n<p>Now, many may think: \u201cwhy do you go such lengths to show that you have had these links for a long time? Who <em>cares<\/em>?\u201d Well, one has to understand the backdrop of how Taylor and his followers are treating anyone who disagrees with their reactionary conspiratorial nonsense. Their standard, stock, playbook, boilerplate \u201creply\u201d (and that word is used very loosely!) \u2014<strong><em> anything<\/em><\/strong> but deal with the actual <strong><em>arguments<\/em><\/strong> \u2014 is that any critic:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1) must deny that theological liberalism has caused problems in the Church.<\/p>\n<p>2) must deny that there is any crisis in the Church at all.<\/p>\n<p>3) must deny that groups such as Freemasons have sought to infiltrate the Church.<\/p>\n<p>4) is very likely a modernist himself.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>None<\/em> of those things are true about me, and this paper (among a million other proofs), establishes that.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>(originally 6-5-19)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Image from page 966 of <em>An encyclopaedia of freemasonry and its kindred sciences : comprising the whole range of arts, sciences and literature as connected with the institution<\/em>\u00a0(1887, by\u00a0Albert Gallatin\u00a0Mackey\u00a0&amp; Charles T.\u00a0McClenachan)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/internetarchivebookimages\/14765177565\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Flickr<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have vigorously opposed theological liberalism all this time, too I\u2019ve traced links on that topic on my website to 2 may 2000: six years before Taylor Marshall was even received into the Church. This is nothing new. We apologists have known about it all along. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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