\u00a0Prayer for the Dead from Ambrose to Gregory the Great<\/i>\u00a0<\/a>(by Laszlo Illes Kaulics): pp. 10-18.<\/p>\nI have three pages of citations in my book,\u00a0The Quotable Augustine<\/i>, on purgatory (from\u00a0City of God<\/i>\u00a0and the\u00a0Enchiridion<\/i>) and four pages documenting his views on alms, Masses, offerings, and prayer for the dead.<\/p>\n
I\u2019ll read the link you provided and get back with you! Wish I had more time\u2026 With six kids, it\u2019s harder and harder to sit and write like i would like sometimes!<\/span><\/p>\nSix kids! God\u00a0bless<\/i>\u00a0you. The most important job in the world . . .<\/span><\/p>\n
\nFrom the link you provided, it appears that Ambrose was not very consistent in his views on the afterlife.
\nFrom the article:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nWhen speaking about the eschatology of Ambrose one should note that he does not have a fully developed and consistent theory of salvation and damnation mechanisms in the next world, whether saints go to heaven immediately or stay in some place of repose.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n
\nBut this isn\u2019t surprising, as there are many church fathers, many of which disagreed with each other on a multitude of theological teachings\u2026.so I think the only way to know for sure is to see whether something is explicitly taught in the Bible \u2013 not to find where a church father here or there agreed or disagreed.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nI don\u2019t see purgatory in the scripture. I have seen many verses that are supposed to refer to purgatory, but the reasoning for assigning them to that idea is speculative at best.<\/span><\/p>\nI grew up in a religion that taught a future rapture in our time, and being left behind or caught up, then going through a great tribulation period for seven years\u2026.this doctrine was \u201cproven\u201d using select few verses from the Bible to support this theology\u2026and hey, you could definitely believe that it was true if you only saw those verses and read them in the way they are presented by the left behind movement. But a closer look at the context reveals that those verses are not supporting that theology at all. In fact, I was told Jesus was going to come and rapture people on Sept 13, 1996, based on several passages, calculations, and some pretty faulty interpretation of scripture. Obviously, he didn\u2019t come on that date, and their reasoning was flawed. Their proof texts didn\u2019t prove what they assumed it did.<\/span><\/p>\nI think it\u2019s sort of similar, the way purgatory is taught and then read into the scriptures. You can find scripture that sounds like it supports it, but in my opinion, its just read into it and doesn\u2019t go along with the majority of the scripture which teaches that being absent from the body is being present with Christ. We are not attached to our sinful nature anymore after we die. That\u2019s in our flesh. And I cannot depend on myself for salvation\u2026if I did, I would without a doubt be completely doomed. I have already broken Gods law. If you break one commandment, you are guilty of all.<\/span><\/p>\nJesus atoned for all of my sin when he died and paid my debt on the cross. There is no sin that his blood was not worthy to atone for. Purgatory makes it appear that Christ could not complete the job by his death on the cross..that something more than his blood is necessary for salvation.<\/span><\/p>\nJesus said that \u201cit is finished\u201d when he died on the cross. He paid the price. If we could suffer and thereby earn salvation for ourselves or anyone else, would we not then have a right to boast? The Bible says the reason that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works is \u201clest any man should boast\u201d.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span>
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\nThe verse you cited does not speak of Christ\u2019s atonement. I other words, it does not say \u2018filling up what is lacking in Christ\u2019s atonement\u201d. It is speaking of the suffering that all Christians must bear in order to be image bearers of Christ\u2026to bring glory to God. If the world hated him, it will also hate us\u2026and if any man will live godly in Christ Jesus, they will suffer. But not as an atoning work.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\nThere was still suffering for Christs name that was not accomplished yet\u2026suffering that was appointed to Paul, and to other believers. Therefore, it was yet \u201clacking\u201d.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n* * *<\/span><\/div>\nBut this isn\u2019t surprising, as there are many church fathers, many of which disagreed with each other on a multitude of theological teachings\u2026.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nThat\u2019s true, but they also had remarkable accord on doctrines that are distinctively Catholic, and agreement against most if not all doctrines that are distinctively Protestant.<\/p>\n
so I think the only way to know for sure is to see whether something is explicitly taught in the Bible \u2013 not to find where a church father here or there agreed or disagreed.<\/span><\/p>\nWell, it\u2019s\u00a0both<\/i>. Catholics believe that true doctrine will be verified by the convergence of biblical teaching, tradition (Church fathers), and the sanction of the authoritative teaching Church. Purgatory developed a bit slowly at first, but then it was accepted for many hundreds of years before being arbitrarily thrown out by Protestants.<\/p>\n
I don\u2019t see purgatory in the scripture. I have seen many verses that are supposed to refer to purgatory, but the reasoning for assigning them to that idea is speculative at best.<\/span><\/p>\nThat\u2019s how you\u00a0would<\/i>\u00a0see it, with Protestant lenses on; whereas we see it all over Scripture in various ways. I don\u2019t see\u00a0sola Scriptura<\/i>\u00a0in Scripture, and you see that everywhere. True or false premises determine a lot of outcomes of what we believe.<\/p>\n
It\u2019s not proven in an \u201cexplicit, ironclad \/ no one could possibly doubt it\u201d manner, but then it\u2019s not\u00a0required\u00a0<\/i>to be, since\u00a0sola Scriptura<\/i>\u00a0is a false doctrine, and is not taught in the Bible (I\u2019ve written two books just about that, and can send you e-books of both for free if you like). The irony is that Protestants apply\u00a0sola Scriptura<\/i>\u00a0to all other doctrinal questions, when\u00a0it itself<\/i>\u00a0is not a biblical teaching, and much in the Bible contradicts it.<\/p>\n
I was a committed evangelical Protestant for 13 years, and an apologist in those days, too. I\u2019m quite familiar with the teachings and outlooks: used to hold many of \u2019em myself. I didn\u2019t get into date-setting, but I used to believe in Rapture eschatology, from reading Hal Lindsey, until I later read some Reformed stuff and stopped believing in the Rapture.<\/p>\n
I think it\u2019s sort of similar, the way purgatory is taught and then read into the scriptures. You can find scripture that sounds like it supports it, but in my opinion, its just read into it<\/span><\/p>\nAgain, we are not presupposing the necessity for explicit proof for everything as you are, so you don\u2019t \u201csee\u201d it because the proofs aren\u2019t of that nature, for the most part. But there is plenty, including prayer for the dead, baptism for the dead (Paul flat-out mentions that, and you have to interpret it somehow), and third states after death (Luke 16 alone proves that).<\/p>\n
and doesn\u2019t go along with the majority of the scripture which teaches that being absent from the body is being present with Christ.<\/span><\/p>\nHere you are assuming that being in purgatory is being separate from Christ. It is closer to Him than we are on earth. Everyone in purgatory is already saved, or they wouldn\u2019t be there.<\/p>\n
We are not attached to our sinful nature anymore after we die. That\u2019s in our flesh.\u00a0<\/span>
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\n<\/span>Eventually that will be the case, after God mercifully purges us of all our attachment to sin. It\u2019s not just flesh, though. The devil and his demons were spiritual creatures, and they rebelled against God. Unless you mean it only in the non-material sense . . .
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\nAnd I cannot depend on myself for salvation\u2026if I did, I would without a doubt be completely doomed. I have already broken Gods law. If you break one commandment, you are guilty of all.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nNeither do we. Catholics don\u2019t believe in works salvation (heresy of Pelagianism). Trent makes that crystal clear. We believe in salvation by grace alone, but we don\u2019t separate works from faith. as Protestants do by making sanctification separate from justification and salvation. All good works that we do are caused by God\u2019s grace.<\/p>\n
Jesus atoned for all of my sin when he died and paid my debt on the cross. There is no sin that his blood was not worthy to atone for.<\/span><\/p>\nYes, of course. We don\u2019t disagree on that.<\/p>\n
Purgatory makes it appear that Christ could not complete the job by his death on the cross..that something more than his blood is necessary for salvation.<\/span><\/p>\nNot at all. Like I said, those in purgatory are saved, and they\u2019re saved because of God\u2019s grace and His work on the cross on our behalf. They are simply being cleansed so that they are fit to enter into God\u2019s presence. No more games about it being merely extrinsic, imputed, forensic justification; after we die it is the real thing: we have to be literally holy and without sin to be fit to enter into God\u2019s awesome presence.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s what purgatory does. As I stated before, both sides agree about holiness in heaven. There\u2019s no sin there.\u00a0How<\/i>\u00a0we get to that state from our\u00a0present<\/i>\u00a0one is what is disputed.<\/p>\n
Colossians 1:24 [\u201c<\/span>Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ\u2019s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church\u201d \u2014 RSV] is a specific sense of our participating in the death of Christ (which is a frequent biblical theme). The Church teaches that Jesus\u2019 death was super-sufficient and efficient for the salvation of all who are saved. We simply have to accept that work and repent, so that it can be applied in our particular case.<\/span><\/p>\nI think what is meant is that Christ intends for us to join in spreading the redemption that He won on the cross (many verses on sharing Christ\u2019s suffering and on helping to distribute His grace and salvation). Therefore, Paul would be saying that He is doing that, and that Jesus can\u2019t do it because He can\u2019t do the part that is what His followers do. It\u2019s not a limitation on God; only saying that we play a role in it, too. \u201cBoth\/and\u201d and not \u201ceither\/or.\u201d This is biblical synergy. But the cooperation is not absolute equality: God is the cause of the grace and salvation; we only help distribute and apply it. It\u2019s part of redemptive suffering on behalf of others. The\u00a0Navarre Bible Commentary<\/i>\u00a0expresses this, as well:\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n24. Jesus Christ our Lord perfectly accomplished the work the Father gave him to do (cf. Jn 17:4); as he said himself when he was about to die, \u201cIt is finished,\u201d it is accomplished (Jn 19:30).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nFrom that point onwards objective redemption is an accomplished fact. All men have been saved by the redemptive death of Christ. However, St. Paul says that he completes in his flesh \u201cwhat is lacking in Christ\u2019s afflictions\u201d; what does he mean by this? The most common explanation of this statement is summarized by St. Alphonsus as follows: \u201cCan it be that Christ\u2019s passion alone was insufficient to save us? It left nothing more to be done, it was entirely sufficient to save all men. However, for the merits of the Passion to be applied to us, according to St. Thomas (Summa theologiae<\/i>, III, q. 49, a. 3), we need to cooperate (subjective redemption) by patiently bearing the trials God sends us, so as to become like our head, Christ\u201d (St. Alphonsus,\u00a0Thoughts on the Passion<\/i>, 10).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nSt. Paul is applying this truth to himself. Jesus Christ worked and strove in all kinds of ways to communicate his message of salvation, and then he accomplished the redemption by dying on the Cross. The Apostle is mindful of the Master\u2019s teaching and so he follows in his footsteps (cf. 1 Pet 2:21), takes up his cross (cf. Mt 10:38) and continues the task of bringing Christ\u2019s teaching to all men.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nFaith in the fact that we are sharing in the sufferings of Christ, John Paul II says, gives a person \u201cthe certainty that in the spiritual dimension of the work of Redemption he is serving, like Christ, the salvation of his brothers and sisters. Therefore he is carrying out an irreplaceable service. In the Body of Christ, which is ceaselessly born of the Cross of the Redeemer, it is precisely suffering permeated by the spirit of Christ\u2019s sacrifice that is the irreplaceable mediator and author of the good things which are indispensable for the world\u2019s salvation. It is suffering, more than anything else, which clears the way for the grace which transforms human souls. Suffering, more than anything else, makes present in the history of humanity the force of the Redemption\u201d (Salvifici doloris<\/i>, 27).<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n
I\u2019m a little confused now. I want to be sure I understand your position, Dave. Do you believe that Jesus\u2019 blood is sufficient and completely paid our debt in full, to those who are regenerate?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\nYes, this is Catholic teaching. It\u2019s sufficient for the salvation of all men (not just the regenerate: which comes through baptism), but alas, some men reject it and God allows them to do that.<\/p>\n
Do you believe that one who is saved is kept secure by Christ, and if they die (while in sin) they have to be refined but are still saved by grace?<\/span><\/p>\nLong discussion. The elect are who they are, and God knows that, but we don\u2019t. That\u2019s the problem in these sorts of analyses. The Reformed \/ evangelical notion of \u201cabsolute assurance of grace\u201d is not a biblical position. Even Paul didn\u2019t talk like he was absolutely sure (several passages). Catholics believe we can have a strong \u201cmoral assurance\u201d that we are in good graces with God and will most likely be saved in the end, by examining ourselves to see if we are not in a state of serious sin. One can fall away from a state of grace and lose one\u2019s salvation (dozens of Bible passages).<\/p>\n
We believe that almost all those who are saved still have a \u201cstain of sin\u201d on their soul and will have to undergo purification in purgatory in order to be fit to enter into God\u2019s presence in the sinless environment of heaven.
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\nDo you believe that there is anything we must do to keep our salvation?<\/span><\/p>\nWe have to persevere in faith, do good works (that are the evidence of a genuine faith that isn\u2019t merely the bare assent of faith alone) and be free of mortal sin, that places that salvation in grave danger. That\u2019s why we have confession: to give believers a chance to \u201cclean themselves up\u201d and do better in the future, by being open to the leading of God\u2019s grace and His Word.<\/p>\n
I think the purification does (or can, if we allow it) begin in this life. It\u2019s all of a piece. It\u2019s simply completed after death.<\/p>\n
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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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