{"id":3718,"date":"2015-10-04T16:23:25","date_gmt":"2015-10-04T20:23:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=3718"},"modified":"2017-05-19T13:27:59","modified_gmt":"2017-05-19T17:27:59","slug":"st-augustines-holy-communion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/st-augustines-holy-communion.html","title":{"rendered":"St. Augustine&#8217;s Holy Communion (Standing, in the Hand)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"color: #141823; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2015\/10\/Augustine7.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3719 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2015\/10\/Augustine7.jpg\" alt=\"Augustine7\" width=\"497\" height=\"600\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #252525;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Altarpiece of the Church Fathers: St Augustine Liberating a Prisoner<\/em> (c. 1483), by Michael Pacher (1430-1498)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Michael_Pacher_-_Altarpiece_of_the_Church_Fathers_-_St_Augustine_Liberating_a_Prisoner_-_WGA16814.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823; text-align: center;\">* * * * *<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\">This post is especially for those who like to rail against the <em>Novus Ordo<\/em> Mass and current reception norms as a liberal distortion. The idea in modifying the liturgy was to be closer in spirit to the early, patristic liturgy. I myself, by the way, receive kneeling at an altar rail on the tongue, from the priest (that\u2019s our custom in my parish), and I virtually never receive the cup; lest I be accused of \u201cliturgical bias.\u201d I\u2019m simply presenting the facts as they are. Live and let live. Holy Mother Church allows liturgical diversity, as long as the rubrics are properly followed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823; padding-left: 30px;\">Distribution of the bread and wine took place at the chancel rail, where the people came forward to stand and receive from the hands of the bishop and\/or deacons. Bread was placed into the joined hands with the words, \u201cThe Body of Christ,\u201d to which the recipient responded: \u201cAmen\u201d . . . The cup was offered to each by another minister, with a similar exchange.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823; padding-left: 30px;\">(from <em>Augustine Through the Ages: An Encyclopedia<\/em>, general editor: Allan D. Fitzgerald, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm. B Eerdmans Pub. Co., 1999; \u201cEucharistic Liturgy,\u201d p. 338; this article written by Robin M. Jensen and J. Patout Burns)<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><strong>Related reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/communion-in-the-hand-standing-norm-till-500-900-ad.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Communion\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0Hand,\u00a0Standing\u00a0(Norm\u00a0till\u00a0500-900\u00a0AD)<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/reverence-of-hand-communion-biblical-evidence.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Reverence\u00a0of\u00a0Hand-Communion:\u00a0Biblical\u00a0Evidence<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/thoughts-communion-in-the-hand-reverence.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Thoughts:\u00a0Communion\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0Hand\u00a0&amp;\u00a0Reverence<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/01\/variant-postures-for-worship-and-reception-of-holy-communion-the-biblical-data-and-cultural-factors.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Variant\u00a0Postures\u00a0for\u00a0Worship\u00a0and\u00a0Reception\u00a0of\u00a0Holy\u00a0Communion:\u00a0the\u00a0Biblical\u00a0Data,\u00a0and\u00a0Cultural\u00a0Factors<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/08\/michael-voris-lies-about-communion-in.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Michael\u00a0Voris\u2019\u00a0Erroneous\u00a0Contention\u00a0that\u00a0Communion\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0Hand\u00a0(and\u00a0Standing)\u00a0Has\u00a0No\u00a0Historical\u00a0Basis\u00a0Whatsoever<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/07\/thoughts-on-communion-in-the-hand.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Thoughts\u00a0on\u00a0Communion\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0Hand<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2008\/06\/apologia-for-the-mass-of-pope-paul-vi-with-massive-traditional-documentation-summary-of-vatican-ii-on-liturgical-reform.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Apologia\u00a0for\u00a0the\u00a0Mass\u00a0of\u00a0Pope\u00a0Paul\u00a0VI,\u00a0with\u00a0Massive\u00a0Traditional\u00a0Documentation\u00a0\/\u00a0Summary\u00a0of\u00a0Vatican\u00a0II\u00a0on\u00a0Liturgical\u00a0Reform<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #141823;\">More: My<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/eucharist-sacrifice-of-mass-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> Eucharist &amp; Sacrifice of the Mass Index page<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Altarpiece of the Church Fathers: St Augustine Liberating a Prisoner (c. 1483), by Michael Pacher (1430-1498) [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons] * * * * * This post is especially for those who like to rail against the Novus Ordo Mass and current reception norms as a liberal distortion. 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