{"id":37845,"date":"2019-08-30T13:15:37","date_gmt":"2019-08-30T17:15:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=37845"},"modified":"2019-09-06T12:25:48","modified_gmt":"2019-09-06T16:25:48","slug":"atheist-loftus-answers-censors-my-34-replies-to-dr-madison","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/atheist-loftus-answers-censors-my-34-replies-to-dr-madison.html","title":{"rendered":"Atheist Loftus &#8220;Answers&#8221; &#038; Censors My 34 Replies to Dr. Madison"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-37854 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2019\/08\/AngryMan20.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\"><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=john+loftus\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Atheist apostate John Loftus<\/a> is an author and webmaster of the website, <em>Debunking Christianity<\/em>, where Dr. David Madison (another atheist apostate and anti-theist) posts his articles: usually critiques of portions of Scripture or figures like Jesus and Paul. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=David+Madison\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I have responded to now 34 of those articles of his<\/a>, and simply posted the links underneath each article of Dr. Madison\u2019s, as a courtesy, in case he wants to reply (which he has not done <em>thus<\/em> far). This was utterly unacceptable to webmaster Loftus, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2019\/08\/the-rules-of-engagement-at-dc.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">he spoke with authority on 8-28-19<\/a>, saying he will not put up with these outrages of courtesy any longer! (his words below will be in <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2 class=\"post-title\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2019\/08\/the-rules-of-engagement-at-dc.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Rules of Engagement At DC<\/a><\/h2>\n<div class=\"author-timestamp-comments\"><span class=\"post-author\">By\u00a0<b>John W. Loftus<\/b>\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"post-timestamp\">at\u00a0<a class=\"timestamp-link decorated-link\" title=\"permanent link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2019\/08\/the-rules-of-engagement-at-dc.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">8\/28\/2019<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"post-header-line-1\"><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"post-body entry-content\">\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Some angry Catholic apologist has been tagging our posts with his angry long-winded responses. I know of no other blog, Christian or atheist, that allows for arguments by links, especially to plug one\u2019s failing blog or site. I\u2019ve allowed it for about a month with this guy but no more. He\u2019s not banned. He can still come here to comment. It\u2019s just that we don\u2019t allow responses in the comments longer than the blog post itself, or near that. If any respectful person has a counter-argument or some counter-evidence then bring it. State your case in as few words as possible and then engage our commenters in a discussion. But arguments by links or long comments are disallowed. I talked with David Madison who has been the target of these links and he\u2019s in agreement with this decision. He\u2019s planning to write something about one or more of these links in the near future. So here\u2019s how our readers can help. I\u2019ve deleted a few of these arguments by link. There are others I\u2019ve missed. If you see some apologist arguing by link flag it. Then I\u2019ll be alerted where it is to delete it. What\u2019s curious to me are the current posts he\u2019s neglecting,<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2019\/08\/the-amount-of-horrific-suffering-makes.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">like this one on horrific suffering<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If he tackles that one I\u2019ll allow him a link back.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>*****<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">Here was my reply, posted there (if it is allowed to remain):<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/div>\n<div>What a surprise. Funny, I was under the impression that it was <em>common courtesy<\/em> to let someone know that you offered a reply to their writing. I have not seen Dr. Madison\u2019s email address listed, as far as I know (but I may have missed it). But for you, somehow that is \u201cangry\u201d and against your ethics. Duly noted.<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>From now on I\u2019ll refute Dr. Madison\u2019s arguments without letting him know. Hopefully, if Dr. Madison does actually reply to one of my counter-arguments (it\u2019s now 34 with no reply), he will let <em><strong>me<\/strong><\/em> know. He\u2019s more than welcome to post such a link on my blog. Thanks.<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve written on suffering and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=problem+of+evil\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the problem of evil<\/a> many times (posted on my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/atheism-agnosticism-secularism-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">atheist<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/philosophy-christianity-index-page.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">philosophy &amp; science<\/a> web pages), since I regard it as the most serious objection to Christianity. In fact, my first interaction with you (John Loftus) was on this topic (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/02\/dialogue-w-atheist-john-loftus-problem-evil.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cDialogue w Atheist John Loftus on the Problem of Evil\u201d<\/a> [10-11-06] ).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/do-i-hate-atheists-or-anyone-heres-the-record.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The \u201cangry\u201d schtick<\/a> is getting old real fast. Is that all you have in your arsenal anymore: a bald-faced lie? You were much more fun <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/atheist-john-loftus-reacts-to-my-analysis-of-his-deconversion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">when you called me an \u201cidiot!\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Lastly, few care about my replies to an atheist on my blog or my Facebook page. If my motive were simply to \u201cplug [my supposedly] failing blog or site\u201d this would be one of the<em> last<\/em> topics that would accomplish <em>that<\/em>. I get far more page views from writing anything about<em> sex<\/em>. This is not mere opinion. One can track actual page views at Patheos with Google Analytics.<\/p>\n<p>When I look over the response for August, I indeed find that an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/masturbation-thoughts-on-why-it-is-as-wrong-as-it-ever-was.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">article on masturbation<\/a> received the most views, and more than twice as much as the #2 article, which was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/05\/reactionary-infiltration-of-taylor-marshalls-book-infiltration.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">about a radical Catholic reactionary book<\/a>. #3 was a paper about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/why-didnt-c-s-lewis-become-a-catholic.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">why C. S. Lewis didn\u2019t become a Catholic<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/depression-and-anxiety-some-natural-remedies-do-exist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">#4<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/04\/dr-dave-cures-wife-once-again-calcium-deposits-in-the-shoulder-and-extreme-pain.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">#5<\/a> were about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/06\/herbalism-holistic-health-collection.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">holistic health<\/a> (totally unrelated to apologetics). #6 is about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/communion-in-the-hand-standing-norm-till-500-900-ad.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">how to receive Communion<\/a>. #7 is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/masturbation-remains-a-grave-sin-debate-w-steve-hays.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">another paper about masturbation<\/a>, #8 (finally!) a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/07\/jesus-said-he-was-god-reply-to-ex-christian-atheist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">reply to an atheist other than Dr. Madison<\/a>. #9 is about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/07\/blessed-cardinal-newman-on-marys-immaculate-conception.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Mary\u2019s Immaculate Conception<\/a>. #10 is about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/marys-assumption-dialogue-w-evangelical-protestant.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">her Assumption<\/a>. So that is one paper in the top ten devoted to atheism.<\/p>\n<p>I have to get to #21 to even find one of the 34 replies to Dr. Madison (all written in August).<\/p>\n<p>So much for your stupid theory. I\u2019m not replying for hits or for money, but because I think it is a great opportunity to refute atheist polemics against Christianity. <strong><em>Period<\/em><\/strong>. This is what apologists <em>do<\/em>. I certainly make <strong><em>far<\/em><\/strong> less money than you do: ranting and raving and lying about Christianity and Christians.<\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">More comments that I also posted on Loftus\u2019 site:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p>I looked up Loftus\u2019 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2011\/02\/my-comment-policy.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cComment Policy.\u201d<\/a> I saw nothing about not being able to simply post a link to a reply to an article posted at <em>Debunking Christianity<\/em>. It starts out as follows (all emphases in the original in my citations):<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">At\u00a0<i>Debunking Christianity<\/i>\u00a0I welcome most anyone to comment on what is written. I like the challenge of educated discussions between educated people. I think educated people can disagree agreeably.\u00a0<b><i>Only people not fully exposed to alternative ways of thinking will claim their opponents are stupid merely because they disagree.<\/i><\/b><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>I agree 100%. If only Loftus and his cronies would <em>act<\/em> according to these noble ideals. Here\u2019s another excerpt:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><u><b>Unoriginality.<\/b><\/u>\u00a0Your comments should be your own thoughts, in your own words. When quoting relevant material, try to keep the excerpts brief. Don\u2019t say the same thing over and over again.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>I haven\u2019t quoted anything (which I am allowed to do), in simply posting links to my replies, <em>underneath the articles I was replying to<\/em>. It seems to me that Dr. Madison and others (if they actually <em>believed\u00a0in<\/em> and <em>practiced<\/em> the ideal expressed above) would enthusiastically <em>welcome<\/em> my \u201calternative ways of thinking\u201d as a golden opportunity to defend the superiority of atheist views and shoot mine down. But no, instead we get this censorship, no interactive replies at all (though now we\u2019re told that one or two are finally coming) and the ever-present double standard and juvenile insulting.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><u><b>Preaching.<\/b><\/u>\u00a0Theist commenters are welcome, but bear in mind that atheists do not gather here just so that we can be more conveniently proselytized. Attempts to sermonize or recite apologetics at us are frowned upon. A good rule of thumb is that if you want to have a genuine conversation with us, you\u2019re welcome to stay; if you only want to convert us, you can expect to be shown the door.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>I haven\u2019t done this at all. I am replying directly (mostly point-by-point) to posted material on this site. This is \u201cgenuine conversation.\u201d But so far, it is entirely a <strong><em>one-way<\/em><\/strong> \u201cconversation.\u201d One of the parties ain\u2019t interested in defending his own arguments (nor is \u2014 how pathetic \u2014 anyone<em> else<\/em> here). But it\u2019s on the <em>way<\/em>, I\u2019m told. I eagerly look forward to it!<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><u><b>Soapboxing.<\/b><\/u>\u00a0Related to both unoriginality and preaching, this occurs when a person has a pet cause which is the only thing they ever want to talk about, regardless of the topic of the thread. If all your comments keep coming back to the same point, you\u2019re soapboxing. Don\u2019t do this.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>I\u2019m obviously not doing this either, since I am directly responding to material at <em>Debunking Christianity<\/em>. Many of the arguments I have offered in so doing, I never even <em>thought about<\/em> before. They were stimulated by the arguments of Dr. Madison. This is the beauty of argument and interaction. Christian arguments have been encouraged and strengthened by opposing arguments since the beginning. I love it! So I have mostly enjoyed replying to Dr. Madison. He has been gracious enough to provide a steady supply of fallacious or non-factual argumentation that is the perfect stimulus for an apologist who specializes in the Bible.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><u><b>Imperviousness to reason.<\/b><\/u>\u00a0I expect that people who debate here will show at least some responsiveness to arguments raised against their position. If your typical response to a counterargument is to repeat your original argument in unchanged form, your presence will soon grow tiresome. Acknowledge the things that other people say to you and respond accordingly.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<p>Again, this is exactly what I am <em>not<\/em> doing, in replying point-by-point to material on the site. If I received such replies (which happens only rarely), I would be ecstatic at the golden opportunity to clarify and counter-reply, and retract where necessary. But the response of my atheist friends is to flee to the hills, insult, and censor. It\u2019s one of life\u2019s mysteries. But <em>hypocrisy<\/em>, in any event, is certainly not confined to Christians.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, it is highly ironic and ludicrous that when I first started responding to Dr. Madison, I came to <em>Debunking Christianity<\/em> and tried in vain to engage in intelligent discussion. But as almost always in atheist forums, the folks weren\u2019t interested in that. It was 100% insults and mockery and not the slightest interaction with my actual arguments at all, as anyone can see in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/angry-atheist-ring-around-the-rosey-example-763.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my paper that documented what happened<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It was a carbon copy of the behavior that occurred <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/hysterical-frenzy-vs-me-on-atheist-seidenstickers-blog.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">in August 2018: a year ago, on Bob Seidensticker\u2019s website<\/a> (I have<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/07\/atheist-bob-seidensticker-intellectual-coward-my-32-critiques.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> refuted 35 of his papers<\/a>, too). They had no interest in rational discussion, either; only in insults and lying, and I was also banned.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>Once that happened, I concluded (as I always have, in despair) that genuine discussion of opposing ideas is<em> impossible<\/em> on an atheist forum. I was tempted to not even post the links to my replies anymore, and to adopt the attitude of \u201cto <em>hell<\/em> with \u2019em.\u201d But my courteous instincts prevailed; only to at length get the above reply from Loftus.<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>Very well, then. If I can\u2019t have an intelligent discussion on his site or any atheist one that I\u2019ve ever seen, then I\u2019ll simply refute atheist materials (including those from Loftus) and not let anyone <em>know<\/em> that I\u2019m doing it. Atheists whose writings I critique can do what<em> I<\/em> do: run across critical materials in Google searches (which I do since I am virtually never informed when someone counter-replies to <em>me<\/em>).<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>In fact, I ran across this very article from Loftus, by accident, as I was looking through Dr. Madison\u2019s writings. John Loftus seemingly had no intention of making me aware of it. Loftus did \u201creply\u201d to me earlier, when he saw that I was critiquing Dr. Madison,\u00a0and made these two comments (do they sound like a willingness to interact with opposing ideas?):<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">What does it say that you have about 46 comments for your last 20 essays? Given your mean spirited attitude, one probable interpretation is that your headlines grab attention from the massive amount of readers attracted to Patheos. But when people see how you treat others they leave you to your anger. And you are angry. That is clear. You hate people who disagree with you, which actually proves Dr. Madison\u2019s point, that Jesus wants you to hate others in deference to him. Readers see this quickly then they go away.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">*<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Your speech betrays you. I can get a bit angry when purposely misunderstood by self-proclaimed know-it-alls like you. But you enter a debate angry! You write as if Dr. David Madison is a non-entity, a non-being, who is mere fodder for your supposed \u201csuperior\u201d debate skills. I cannot convince you of this I\u2019m sure, but that\u2019s what I see, and it\u2019s one good reason I ignore you.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>I replied with my paper, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/do-i-hate-atheists-or-anyone-heres-the-record.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cDo I \u2018Hate\u2019 Atheists (or, Anyone)? Here\u2019s the Record . . .\u201d<\/a><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">What you\u2019re doing is writing a book length response. Go ahead. Do that. We know we can respond. It\u2019s just that we don\u2019t have the time to do so. Plus, it\u2019s pretty clear our time would be better spent doing something else than wrestling in the mud with you.<\/span><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>*****<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">And a third comment posted there:<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>As another Christian courtesy, I will go back and delete all my links posted here to replies to Dr. Madison, lest any atheist stumble, experience cognitive dissonance, or be scandalized and depressed by the horrific prospect of an amiable, non-\u201cangry\u201d expression of a <em><strong>different opinion<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0[!!! gasp! shriek!] from a lowly, despised Christian apologist.<\/p>\n<p>The Bible commands us, after all, not to do anything to make less confident folks stumble. I wouldn\u2019t want to burst this blissful \u201cbubble\u201d you have made for yourselves, or to dissent from the groupthink that obviously reigns and dominates this echo chamber.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for letting me post\u00a0<i>this<\/i>! How open-minded of you . . .<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Thank you. One thing you should keep in mind is that wasting my time by having to explain my policies will get you banned. So what if I made an addition? Get over it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I believe I zapped all of the horrifying, threatening links to my replies to Dr. Madison. If I missed one, please let me know and I\u2019ll go delete it pronto. Thanks!<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>ADDENDUM<\/strong> (8-31-19) Without the slightest hint of the extreme and apparent (and pathetic) irony, Loftus put up a post on the same day, entitled,<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debunking-christianity.com\/2019\/08\/cameron-bertuzzi-of-capturing.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cCameron Bertuzzi of \u201cCapturing Christianity\u201d Avoids Answering Questions.\u201d<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Near the end, he states,<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cYour goal should be to answer their objections.\u201d<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Man oh man, is this guy in a self-deluded bubble.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">***<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.maxpixel.net\/Work-Angry-Fire-Man-Nature-Coal-Animal-Bite-Red-2804444\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Max Pixel<\/a> \/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/publicdomain\/zero\/1.0\/deed.en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">Creative Commons Zero \u2013 CC0<\/a>]<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000;\">***<\/span><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Atheist apostate John Loftus is an author and webmaster of the website, Debunking Christianity, where Dr. David Madison (another atheist apostate and anti-theist) posts his articles: usually critiques of portions of Scripture or figures like Jesus and Paul. I have responded to now 34 of those articles of his, and simply posted the links underneath [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":37854,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[124],"tags":[2519,1738,1043,745,258,9381,2639,9137,9384,1054,335,525,6519,1367,9119,648,647,1061],"class_list":["post-37845","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-atheism-agnosticism","tag-alleged-biblical-contradictions","tag-anti-christian-bigotry","tag-anti-theism","tag-anti-theists","tag-atheism","tag-atheist-censorship","tag-atheist-exegesis","tag-atheist-hermeneutics","tag-atheist-intellectual-cowardice","tag-atheist-christian-dialogue","tag-atheists","tag-bible-contradictions","tag-contradictions-in-the-bible","tag-critiques-of-christianity","tag-david-madison","tag-debunking-christianity","tag-john-loftus","tag-john-w-loftus"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Atheist Loftus &quot;Answers&quot; &amp; Censors My 34 Replies to Dr. Madison<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I was simply posting links to my replies to atheist Dr. Madison&#039;s voluminous anti-theist writings on Loftus&#039; &quot;Debunking Christianity&quot; site. 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