{"id":381,"date":"2011-08-27T04:36:00","date_gmt":"2011-08-27T04:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/08\/anti-catholic-blaming-of-catholic-apologists-for-protestant-mistakes-with-regard-to-luthers-view-of-the-canon-part-ii.html"},"modified":"2017-05-30T15:44:11","modified_gmt":"2017-05-30T19:44:11","slug":"anti-catholic-blaming-of-catholic-apologists-for-protestant-mistakes-with-regard-to-luthers-view-of-the-canon-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/08\/anti-catholic-blaming-of-catholic-apologists-for-protestant-mistakes-with-regard-to-luthers-view-of-the-canon-part-ii.html","title":{"rendered":"Protestant Errors Regarding Luther &#038; the Biblical Canon"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><strong>. . . and Anti-Catholic blaming of Catholic apologists for them<\/strong><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/01\/Luther-51.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-5840 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/01\/Luther-51.jpg\" alt=\"Luther-5\" width=\"525\" height=\"768\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Posthumous Portrait of Martin Luther as an Augustinian Monk<\/em>\u00a0(after 1546), from the workshop of Lucas Cranach the Elder (1472-1553)<\/span>\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Portrait_of_Martin_Luther_as_an_Augustinian_Monk.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>(8-27-11)<\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It\u2019s simply amazing, the amount of misinformation, disinformation and propaganda anti-Catholics dish out. They make<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Baghdad Bob<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> (remember that clown?) look like Abraham Lincoln. I would have thought that my previous copiously documented examination of this nonsense\u00a0had laid to rest many of these bogus allegations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Anti-Catholics are so used to lying about and distorting anything that Catholic apologists do that they literally could no sooner stop this than Niagara Falls could reverse its course.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Luther certainly <i>did<\/i> judge books of the Bible (which is technically a <i>different notion<\/i> from which books he left in his canon in his own Bible), solely on his own arbitrary, self-proclaimed, pseudo-prophetic \u201cauthority.\u201d It\u2019s not just us Catholics (oops, \u201cRomanists\u201d) who think this, but even some Lutherans and other Protestants: some of whom are troubled by Luther\u2019s cavalier attitude towards the Bible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I documented this almost seven years ago now, in my paper, \u201cLuther\u2019s Outrageous Assertions About Certain Biblical Books.\u201d For example, non-Catholic Luther and \u201cReformation\u201d scholar Preserved Smith wrote (this and other sources can be found in the aforementioned paper):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">. . . few of his followers have ever interpreted, commented on, and criticized the Bible with the freedom habitual to him. The books he judged according as they appealed to his own subjective nature, . . .<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Lutheran Mark F. Bartling (WELS), stated:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It must be admitted that Luther did develop a personal criterion of canonicity that took its place along side of apostolicity and universality (those books unanimously accepted by the early church, <i>homologoumena<\/i>) . . . It was, of all people, Carlstadt who condemned Luther for this criterion. Carlstadt said: \u201cOne must appeal either to known apostolic authorship or to universal historical acceptance as to the test of a book\u2019s canonicity, not to internal doctrinal considerations.\u201d <span style=\"font-size: 85%;\">[<i>De Canonicis Scripturis libellus<\/i>, Wittenberg, 1520, p. 50]<\/span>. This position of Carlstadt was also the position of Martin Chemnitz and of C. F. W. Walther<span style=\"font-size: 85%;\"> [<i>Compendium Theologiae Positivae<\/i>, Vol. I. p. 149]<\/span>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\">Brooke Foss Westcott (1825-1901), the great biblical scholar, was equally direct in his disagreement with Luther:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">No Church could rest on a theory which makes private feeling the supreme authority as to doctrine and the source of doctrine. As a natural consequence the later Lutherans abandoned the teaching of their great master on the written Word.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Moral of the story: when Catholics say things like I did, in this respect, we are not saying anything that many Protestant (including Lutheran) or secularist critics of Luther (Carlstadt, Chemnitz, Walther, Smith, Westcott et al) have not already said. But when <i>we<\/i> do it, it is supposedly bad research and \u201cpropaganda.\u201d When a <i>Protestant<\/i> says the same thing, it is profound truth. Orwellian doublespeak . . . The Catholic is always wrong and the Protestant always right, even when they agree with each other. I agree: it makes no rational sense. Yet this is how anti-Catholic polemicists \u201creason.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Now, when I first converted to Catholicism in 1991 and did some critical writing about Luther, I had at my disposal far fewer sources and resources than I have now. I wasn\u2019t on the Internet yet (not for another five years, and six till I had my own website). I had one Catholic book about Luther of my own (the notorious, but not devil incarnate, Patrick O\u2019Hare) and photocopies or handwritten notes from mostly two other early 20th century Catholic sources (Grisar and Janssen) from library research. Much of my earliest research utilizes these three sources. I also had Roland Bainton and some Protestant biographies of Luther as well. I had read Bainton\u2019s famous <i>Here I Stand<\/i> in 1984.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">My first paper on Luther dates from 1991. Needless to say, I have learned a great deal about Luther since that time (anyone can see how much I have written about him, including now a book) and have refined many of my opinions, as I learned more and more. I systematically purged virtually all references to O\u2019Hare\u2019s citations from my papers way back in 2002.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I have modified many opinions in particulars, about Luther. I continue to develop my beliefs about him on an ongoing basis, and remove old stuff. One of my old papers on the topic was entitled, <i>Martin Luther: Beyond Mythology to Historical Fact<\/i>.<\/span> (the <a href=\"http:\/\/ic.net\/~erasmus\/RAZ404.HTM\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">original URL<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> can be traced on Internet Archive). The first version was dated 14 January 1991. There was a \u201c5th Revised Edition\u201d dated 11 November 2002. In the fifth edition, all the material on the biblical canon had been removed. The third edition of 18 January 2000 still contained it, without either attribution or URL. So did the fourth edition of 27 January 2002. But since November 2002, these quotes have not been on my website, in this paper.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The last time the paper was online, according to Internet Archive, was 11 October 2003, so it\u2019s been gone almost eight years. Sometime between then and 6 December 2003 it was voluntarily removed as outdated (which is not the same as <i>discredited<\/i>) research. It never made it to my blog, because that was begun in 2004. When we look at\u00a0 the particulars anti-Catholics presents to make their case against a 20-year-old paper of mine, they <i>uniformly fail to do so<\/i>, since they all go back to Protestant sources, in terms of origin in English, and continued use.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Obviously, then, I was refining the paper as I learned more things. Most people would think that is a good and normal thing in legitimate research and inquiry (since all noted researchers and authors make revisions). In this ancient paper of mine, I cited O\u2019Hare at length:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"color: black;\"><p>Of the Pentateuch he says: \u2018We have no wish either to see or hear Moses. Job . . . is merely the argument of a fable . . . Ecclesiastes ought to have been more complete. There is too much incoherent matter in it . . . Solomon did not, therefore, write this book . . . The book of Esther I toss into the Elbe. I am such an enemy to the book of Esther that I wish it did not exist, for it Judaizes too much and has in it a great deal of heathenish naughtiness . . . The history of Jonah is so monstrous that it is absolutely incredible . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">O\u2019Hare was<i> not<\/i> the original source of these things (in English).\u00a0 I already documented in my previous paper\u00a0 that the source of this material in English (far as I could determine) was Sir William Hamilton: a Scottish Protestant philosopher, in 1834. He was utilizing and translating the standard edition of Luther\u2019s Works in the18th century (the state of the art at that time)<\/span>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.1911encyclopedia.org\/Johann_Georg_Walch\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Johann Georg Walch<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> (24 volumes: Halle: 1740-1753). Walch in turn cited the Aurifaber version of <i>Table-Talk<\/i>, dating from 1566.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Those three Protestant men are the originators of this material, not the Catholic O\u2019Hare, who was writing in 1916 and utilizing the statements of Hamilton. Thus, O\u2019Hare and other evil, wicked, wascally \u201cRomanists cannot be uniquely blamed for this, as if it is poor research and a polemical motivation alone that caused them to pull things out of thin air in the effort to defame Martin Luther. It\u2019s just not so. O\u2019Hare wasn\u2019t solely at fault. It wasn\u2019t simply \u201cpropaganda.\u201d It had a quite legitimate, scholarly\u00a0 Protestant textual history.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If <i>O\u2019Hare<\/i> was a propagandist by using these words (and I myself by using his, which are Walch\u2019s translated into English), then so were Hamilton and Walch and Aurifaber. But anti-Catholic critics merely want to bash O\u2019Hare and the embodiment of evil and bad research, Dave Armstrong. O\u2019Hare does indeed often engage in empty \u201canti-Luther\u201d polemics and lousy research, which is why I don\u2019t use him anymore, but <i>this<\/i> instance is not an example of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In the previous paper I already made a lengthy comparison of Hamilton\u2019s section about Luther and the canon (translated from Walch, who cited Luther friend Aurifaber), and O\u2019Hare\u2019s. Here I\u2019ll do it line-by-line (using O\u2019Hare portions that I cited in <i>my <\/i>old Luther paper):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>[Catholic] O\u2019Hare, 1916: <\/b><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Job . . . is merely the argument of a fable . . .<\/span><br>\n<b>[Protestant] Hamilton, 1834:<\/b>\u00a0 <span style=\"color: red;\"><i>Job<\/i> spake not, therefore, as it stands written in his book, but hath had such cogitations . . . It is a sheer <i>argumentum fabulae.<\/i> . . . <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[many Protestants (usually liberals who were biblical skeptics) picked this up \u2014 so we observe in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?tbo=p&amp;tbm=bks&amp;q=book+of+Job+fable+Luther,+OR+Table-talk&amp;tbs=,bkv:p&amp;num=10#q=book+of+Job+fable+Luther,+OR+Table-talk&amp;hl=en&amp;tbs=bkv:p&amp;tbm=bks&amp;ei=BxlZTsS_O6Ps0gGQr7yVDA&amp;start=0&amp;sa=N&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp;fp=dce548614f8e8b3c&amp;biw=1016&amp;bih=594\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Google Books search<\/a> \u2014 and noted that Luther regarded the book of Job as a fable or mere dramatic story without factual basis; see also a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=Luther%2C+book+of+job%2C+fable%2C+allegory%2C+history&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a#q=Luther,+book+of+job,+fable,+allegory,+history&amp;hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=WIh&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;prmd=ivnsb&amp;ei=2BlZTsneK8KcgQeDqZGmDA&amp;start=0&amp;sa=N&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp;fp=b62454da27284b07&amp;biw=1016&amp;bih=594\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">general Google search<\/a> along these lines]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><b>O\u2019Hare, 1916:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ecclesiastes ought to have been more complete. There is too much incoherent matter in it . . . Solomon did not, therefore, write this book . . .<\/span><br>\n<b>Hamilton, 1834: <\/b><span style=\"color: red;\">This book (<i>Ecclesiastes<\/i>) ought to have been more full; there is too much of broken matter in it; it has neither boots nor spurs, but rides only in socks, as I myself when in the cloister . . . Solomon hath not therefore written this book\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>O\u2019Hare, 1916:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">The book of Esther I toss into the Elbe. I am such an enemy to the book of Esther that I wish it did not exist, for it Judaizes too much and has in it a great deal of heathenish naughtiness . . .<\/span><br>\n<b>Hamilton, 1834:<\/b> <span style=\"color: red;\">The book of <i>Esther<\/i>, I toss into the Elbe.\u201d [Ib.] [\u201cAnd when the Doctor was correcting the second book of Maccabees, he said: \u2013] . . . I am so an enemy to the book of Esther, that I would it did not exist; for it Judaizes too much, and hath in it a great deal of heathenish naughtiness.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>O\u2019Hare, 1916:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">The history of Jonah is so monstrous that it is absolutely incredible . . .<\/span><br>\n<b>Hamilton, 1834: <\/b><span style=\"color: red;\">The history of <i>Jonah<\/i> is so monstrous, that it is absolutely incredible.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?tbo=p&amp;tbm=bks&amp;q=%22The+history+of+Jonah+is+so+monstrous+that+it+is+absolutely+incredible%22&amp;tbs=,bkv:p&amp;num=10\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Google Books search of this phrase<\/a> reveals that many <i>Protestants<\/i> cited it throughout the 19th century: several noting that it came from the Protestant Hamilton. It was in common use before O\u2019Hare was even born]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It wasn\u2019t only the Catholic O\u2019Hare citing or paraphrasing these sections from Hamilton: not by a long shot. I have linked above to examples found in Google Books searches. Secularist Luther scholar Preserved Smith <i>also<\/i> did, just five years before O\u2019Hare:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">. . . he declared Job to be an allegory; Jonah was so childish that he was almost inclined to laugh at it; the books of Kings were \u201ca thousand paces ahead of Chronicles and more to be believed.\u201d \u201cEcclesiastes has neither boots nor spurs, but rides in socks, as I did when I was in the cloister.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: black;\">(<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=DKsrAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=the+life+and+letters+of+martin+luther,+preserved+smith&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=aZJYTtfUAdTTgAex0ci0DA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>The Life and Letters of Martin Luther<\/i><\/a>, Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1911, <span style=\"color: black;\">268)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The only section that couldn\u2019t be traced back to Hamilton was \u201cWe have no wish either to see or hear Moses.\u201d Very well, then; I did a search on Google Books. Not much turned up. All O\u2019Hare stated was,\u00a0\u201cOf the Pentateuch he says: \u2018We have no wish either to see or hear Moses.'\u201d I agree that this is inadequate, because it <i>has no context at all<\/i> and could easily be misinterpreted (especially knowing Luther and his frequent rhetorical exaggerations and oft-used sarcastic, non-literal mode of argumentation). On the other hand, O\u2019Hare has not interpreted it <i>himself<\/i>. In any event, <i>the words themselves<\/i> do exist in Luther, and in that sense, this is not \u201cpropaganda\u201d per se, but the reporting of a fact.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"color: black;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"color: black;\">Luther, in his treatise, <i>Against The Heavenly Prophets In The Matter Of Images And Sacraments<\/i>,\u201d wrote (my bolding):<\/div>\n<div style=\"color: blue;\"><\/div>\n<blockquote style=\"color: black;\"><p>Now then, let us get to the bottom of it all and say that these teachers of sin and Mosaic prophets are not to confuse us with Moses. <b>We don\u2019t want to see or hear Moses. <\/b>How do you like that, my dear rebels? We say further, that all such Mosaic teachers deny the gospel, banish Christ, and annul the whole New Testament. I now speak as a Christian for Christians. For Moses is given to the Jewish people alone, and does not concern us Gentiles and Christians. We have our gospel and New Testament. If they can prove from them that images must be put away, we will gladly follow them. If they, however, through Moses would make us Jews, we will not endure it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote style=\"color: black;\"><p>(<i>Luther\u2019s Works<\/i>, Vol. 40, p. 92)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But this dates from after 1955, and wasn\u2019t available to O\u2019Hare.<\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\"> <span style=\"color: black;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Moreover,<\/span> in\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=uuMPAAAAYAAJ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><i>Luther Vindicated\u00a0<\/i> <\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">by Charles Hastings Collette, the author provides extensive context.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=uuMPAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=titlepage#PPA164,M1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">He states<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: black;\">:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is a passage quoted by Dr. McCave, as reported in his Lecture in The Midland Counties Express, as follows :\u2014\u201dIt was Luther who said of the Pentateuch \u2018We neither wish to see nor hear this Moses; he is master of all hangmen, and no one can surpass him when there is a question of terrifying, torturing, or tyrannizing.\u2019 \u201d I have utterly failed to trace this passage.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>C<span style=\"color: #000000;\">ollette\u2019s book was published in 1884, and he was a Protestant. This could very well be O\u2019Hare\u2019s source (the reference to \u201cthe Pentateuch\u201d strongly suggests it), in which case <i>again<\/i> it is a matter of O\u2019Hare citing a <i>Protestant<\/i>, who is not hostile to Luther at all; a book, in fact, where he is expressly defended. \u201cDr. McCave\u201d appears to be Canon James McCave, D.D.:<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=uenQAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=RA2-PA87&amp;dq=canon+james+McCave&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=xZ1YTpS_GuODsgLEtLnLDA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=2&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a Catholic<\/a>; <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Collette is not necessarily agreeing with what he cited, and couldn\u2019t trace it. Thus we have:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>[Catholic] O\u2019Hare, 1916: <\/b>Of the Pentateuch he says: \u2018We have no wish either to see or hear Moses.\u2019<\/span><br>\n<b>[Protestant] Collette, 1884 (citing Catholic McCave):<\/b>\u00a0 <span style=\"color: red;\">It was Luther who said of the Pentateuch \u2018We neither wish to see nor hear this Moses . . .\u2019<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">According to Walch, Luther thought the book of Job was a \u201cfable.\u201d This came right from him, as Hamilton stated. According to Preserved Smith (writing in 1911), he thought it was \u201callegory.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">O\u2019Hare drew directly from the Protestant Hamilton, who translated into English the official Luther compiler Walch, who included <i>Table-Talk<\/i> from Luther contemporary and personal secretary Aurifaber. This is O\u2019Hare\u2019s fault that he dared to trust Protestants for accurately reporting the words of their hero Luther? And it\u2019s our fault for citing him, doing so? As if anti-Catholics<i> <\/i>have never utilized older pro-Luther research (they do all the time) and in so doing, trusted it implicitly for accuracy?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Isn\u2019t Catholic apologetics fun? This is the sort of garbage we hear from our anti-Catholic intellectual giants on a weekly, sometimes daily, basis: pathetic tactics from historically-challenged fools who are unable to rationally defend their viewpoints.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>. . . and Anti-Catholic blaming of Catholic apologists for them Posthumous Portrait of Martin Luther as an Augustinian Monk\u00a0(after 1546), from the workshop of Lucas Cranach the Elder (1472-1553)\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0Wikimedia Commons] * * * (8-27-11) * * * It\u2019s simply amazing, the amount of misinformation, disinformation and propaganda anti-Catholics dish out. 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