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<\/div>\n\n[H]is [Charles Williams\u2019] death has made my faith ten times stronger than it was a week ago. And I find all that talk about \u2018feeling he is closer to us than before\u2019 isn\u2019t just talk. It\u2019s just what it does feel like \u2014 I can\u2019t put it into words. (To Mary Neylan, 20 May 1945, p. 652)<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nMy friendship is not ended. . . . I believe in the next life ten times more strongly than I did. At moments it seems almost tangible. . . . A month ago I would have called this silly sentiment. Now I know better. He [Charles Williams] seems, in some indefinable way, to be all around us now. I do not doubt he is doing and will do for us all sorts of things he could not have done while in the body. (To Florence [Michal] Williams, 22 May 1945, pp. 653-654)<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nIt has made the next world much more real and palpable. We all feel the same. . . . I have often heard of widows and bereaved mothers who \u2018felt that \u201che\u201d was now nearer to them than while in the body\u2019 and always thought it a sentimental hyperbole. I know better now. (To Sister Penelope, 28 May 1945, p. 656)<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nIt has increased enormously one\u2019s faith in the next life and I can\u2019t help feeling him [Charles Williams] all over the place. (To Anne Ridler, 3 June 1945, p. 659)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\nMore related comments are to be found in\u00a0The Collected Letters of C. S. Lewis, Vol. III: Narnia, Cambridge, and Joy 1950-1963<\/i><\/a>, edited by Walter Hooper, HarperSanFrancisco, 2007:<\/div>\n\nMr Every (quite legitimately) gives the word invocation<\/em> a wider sense than I. The question then becomes how far we can infer propriety of devotion<\/em> from propriety of invocation<\/em>? I accept the authority of the Benedicite<\/em> for the propriety of invoking (in Mr Every\u2019s sense) saints. . . .<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nIf there is one kind of devotion to created beings which is pleasing and another which is displeasing to God, when is the Church, as a Church, going to instruct us in the distinction? . . .<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nMost of us laymen, I think, have no parti pris<\/em> [\u2018preconception\u2019] in the matter. We desire to believe as the Church believes. (To the Editor of the Church Times<\/em>, 15 July 1949)<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nI hope Mr Every has not misunderstood me. There is, I believe, a prima facie<\/em> case for regarding the devotions to saints in the Church of England as a controversial question [cites Anglicans Jewel, Laud, and Taylor] . . . I merely claim that the controversy exists. I share Mr Every\u2019s wish that it should cease. But there are two ways in which a controversy can cease: by being settled, or by gradual and imperceptible change of custom. I do not want any controversy to cease in the second sense. (To the Editor of the Church Times<\/em>, 5 August 1949)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n\nBut Hail Marys raise a doctrinal<\/em> question: whether it is lawful to address devotions to any creature<\/em>, however holy. My own view would be that a salute<\/em> to any saint (or angel) cannot in itself be wrong any more than taking off one\u2019s hat to a friend: but that there is always some danger lest such practices start one on the road to a state (sometimes fond in R.C.\u2019s) where the B.V.M. is treated really as a deity and even becomes the centre of the religion. I therefore think that such salutes are better avoided. (To Mary Van Deusen, 26 June 1952, p. 209)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n\nAdditionally, Lewis reported \u201can instantaneous, unanswerable impression\u201d of his deceased wife Joy\u2019s presence. Some years earlier, he had felt \u201cthe ubiquitous presence\u201d of his dead friend and fellow Christian writer, Charles Williams. Here is how Lewis described his experience. It makes for extremely fascinating reading:<\/p>\n
It\u2019s the\u00a0quality<\/em>\u00a0of last night\u2019s experience \u2013 not what it proves but what it was \u2013 that makes it worth putting down. It was quite incredibly unemotional. Just the impression of her\u00a0mind\u00a0<\/em>momentarily facing my own. Mind, not \u201csoul\u201d as we tend to think of soul. Certainly the reverse of what is called \u201csoulful.\u201d Not at all like a rapturous reunion of lovers. Much more like getting a telephone call or a wire from her about some practical arrangement. Not that there was any \u201cmessage\u201d \u2013 just intelligence and attention. No sense of joy or sorrow. No love even, in our ordinary sense. No un-love. I had never in any mood imagined the dead as being so \u2013 well, so business-like. Yet there was an extreme and cheerful intimacy. An intimacy that had not passed through the senses or the emotions at all.<\/p>\n
. . . A Greek philosopher wouldn\u2019t have been surprised at an experience like mine. He would have expected that if anything of us remained after death it would be just that. Up to now this always seemed to me a most arid and chilling idea. The absence of emotion repelled me. But in this contact (whether real or apparent) it didn\u2019t do anything of the sort. One didn\u2019t need emotion. The intimacy was complete \u2013 sharply bracing and restorative too \u2013 without it.<\/p>\n
. . . Once very near the end I said, \u201cIf you can \u2013 if it is allowed \u2013 come to me when I too am on my death bed.\u201d \u201cAllowed!\u201d she said. \u201cHeaven would have a job to hold me; and as for Hell, I\u2019d break it into bits.\u201d She knew she was speaking a kind of mythological language, with even an element of comedy in it. There was a twinkle as well as a tear in her eye. But there was no myth and no joke about the will, deeper than any feeling, that flashed through her.\u00a0(A Grief Observed<\/em>, Toronto: Bantam Books edition, 1961, 85-88)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n
***<\/div>\n<\/div>\nRelated Reading:<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n\nC. S. Lewis\u2019 Views on Christian Unity & Ecumenism<\/a>\u00a0[6-16-03]<\/p>\n
Contraception: Chesterton, C. S. Lewis, & Teddy Roosevelt<\/a> [2-21-04]<\/p>\n
C. S. Lewis\u2019 Childhood in Belfast & Contra-Catholicism<\/a>\u00a0(Biographers and\/or Friends Kreeft, Pearce, Derrick, and Possibly Tolkien Think This is Why Lewis Never Became a Catholic)\u00a0[6-26-12]<\/p>\n
Why Didn\u2019t C. S. Lewis Become a Catholic?<\/a>\u00a0[8-29-14]<\/p>\n
Dialogue on Why C. S. Lewis Didn\u2019t \u201cPope\u201d<\/a>\u00a0[9-1-15]<\/p>\n
C. S. Lewis vs. St. Paul on Future Binding Church Authority<\/a>\u00a0[National Catholic Register<\/em>, 1-22-17]<\/p>\n
Why C. S. Lewis Never Became a Catholic<\/a>\u00a0[National Catholic Register<\/em>, 3-5-17]<\/p>\n
C. S. Lewis on Inevitable Development of Doctrine<\/a> [2-17-19]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n
C. S. Lewis on Catholicism (Correspondence: 1934-1947)<\/a> [9-13-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nC. S. Lewis Practiced Confession to an Anglican Priest<\/a> [10-7-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nC. S. Lewis Believed in Purgatory & Prayer for the Dead<\/a> [10-8-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\n\nC. S. Lewis Believed in the Sacrament of Confirmation<\/a>\u00a0[10-10-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nC. S. Lewis Believed in Vicarious, Redemptive Suffering<\/a>\u00a0[10-17-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nMasturbation: C. S. Lewis Explains Why it is Wrong<\/a>\u00a0[10-28-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\nC. S. Lewis: Views on Procreation & Contraception<\/a> [11-1-19]<\/div>\n*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n***<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUnfortunately, Money Trees Do Not Exist<\/strong>:<\/span>\u00a0If you have been aided in any way by my work, or think it is valuable and worthwhile, please strongly consider financially supporting it (even $10 \/ month \u2014 a mere 33 cents a day \u2014 would be very helpful). I have been a full-time Catholic apologist since Dec. 2001, and have been writing Christian apologetics since 1981 (see\u00a0my Resume<\/a>). My work has been proven (by God\u2019s grace alone) to be fruitful, in terms of changing lives (see the tangible evidences\u00a0from unsolicited \u201ctestimonies\u201d<\/a>). I have to pay my bills like all of you: and have a (homeschooling) wife and three children still at home to provide for, and a mortgage to pay.<\/div>\n\n*<\/p>\n
My book royalties from\u00a0three bestsellers in the field<\/a>\u00a0(published in 2003-2007) have been decreasing, as has my overall income, making it increasingly difficult to make ends meet.\u00a0 I provide over 2500 free articles here, for the purpose of your edification and education, and have\u00a0written 50 books<\/a>.\u00a0It\u2019ll literally be a struggle to survive financially until Dec. 2020, when both my wife and I will start receiving Social Security. If you cannot contribute, I ask for your prayers. Thanks! See my\u00a0information on how to donate<\/a>\u00a0(including 100% tax-deductible donations). It\u2019s very simple to contribute to my apostolate via PayPal, if a tax deduction is not needed (my \u201cbusiness name\u201d there is called \u201cCatholic Used Book Service,\u201d from my old bookselling days 17 or so years ago). May God abundantly bless you.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n
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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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