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Explanation of a Widely Misunderstood Aspect of Analogical Arguments<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Someone responded underneath my paper, Dialogue: Pope Francis vs. Gospel Preaching & Converts? No! (vs. Eric Giunta)<\/a>. His words will be in blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n

*****<\/p>\n

First, the following words in my paper were cited (I added, however, two more paragraphs of my original words here, for clarification):<\/p>\n

He\u2019s making one of his extreme contrasts. It\u2019s just how he [Pope Francis] talks. But so did Jesus. He said, for example:<\/p>\n

Luke 14:26<\/b>\u00a0If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s hyperbole, of course, but atheists and many others completely miss the point because they wrongly interpret hyper-literally. Elsewhere, Jesus\u00a0clarifies<\/em>\u00a0what He meant:<\/p>\n

Matthew 10:37<\/b>\u00a0He who loves father or mother\u00a0more than me<\/i><\/b>\u00a0is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter\u00a0more than me<\/i><\/b>\u00a0is not worthy of me;<\/p>\n

He explains how He is not pitting one thing against another. It\u2019s not literally hate; it\u2019s relative degrees of allegiance. Same thing with the pope. He\u2019s not saying that we ought to hate or reject evangelism; only that we need to do it with the right spirit. And that\u2019s made clear the more we examine his overall thought on the topic, as I and others like Jimmy Akin have done (and you clearly\u00a0haven\u2019t<\/i>\u00a0done).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Dave, you\u2019ve used this kind of argument before and I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a good one.<\/span><\/p>\n

1. The pope isn\u2019t Jesus.<\/span><\/p>\n

2. The situation of Jesus\u2019 hearers in the first century AD isn\u2019t necessarily the same as people who listen to the pope today. Did you teach your children right and wrong using parables or \u201cextreme contrasts.\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s irrelevant (and silly) to note that he isn\u2019t Jesus (we knew<\/em> that already). That doesn\u2019t defeat the analogical reasoning, which is as follows:<\/p>\n

1) Jesus does or says x<\/em>.<\/p>\n

2) Since He is God, He is perfect, and this can\u2019t be wrong or sinful.<\/p>\n

3) Jesus is also our model for behavior.<\/p>\n

4) Therefore, if one of us does or says the same thing, it also can\u2019t be\u00a0objectively<\/i>\u00a0wrong or sinful.<\/p>\n

5) Making an extreme contrast for emphasis is one of these things.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I have agreed again and again that it would be good (or better) for the pope to\u00a0clarify<\/i>\u00a0when he is misunderstood<\/a>. But just\u00a0because<\/i>\u00a0he is misunderstood, it doesn\u2019t make him\u00a0wrong<\/i>; as was also the case with Jesus, Who was massively misunderstood, even when He\u00a0did\u00a0<\/i>explain Himself. When this happened, many times He would say, \u201cyou don\u2019t have the ears to hear, and the eyes to see\u201d or that they had hardened hearts.<\/p>\n

But does the pope believe he has been misunderstood, particularly on the need for Muslims and Jews to convert? Look at what the pope told the Muslims which I quoted above. If someone were to say that the pope believes there was a sharp break in teaching on non-christian religions between pre-V2 and V2 would the pope say he has been misunderstood?<\/span><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been round and round with this evangelism pseudo-controversy. If you don\u2019t get it, you don\u2019t. With people who are determined to be hostile to this pope, evidence is irrelevant. Also, reactionaries and traditionalists have the hardest time comprehending the nature of authentic ecumenism, and the fact that it is perfectly harmonious with apologetics and evangelism. There is a time and a place for everything.<\/p>\n

Ecumenism is perfectly biblical and it didn\u2019t appear from nowhere at Vatican II. For example, the term and notion of \u201cseparated brethren\u201d goes back at least as far as Pope Leo XIII<\/a>: 125 years ago.\u00a0Even Pope St. Pius X used the term \u201cdissident brothers\u201d (dissidentes fratres<\/em>).<\/p>\n

Principles of ecumenism<\/a> were elucidated by St. Thomas Aquinas<\/a>. And they are thoroughly grounded in the Bible<\/a>. Nor is Vatican II\u2019s Nostra Aetate<\/em>\u00a0\u201creligiously pluralistic\u201d & \u201cindifferentist\u201d<\/a>.<\/p>\n

These are all myths and old wives\u2019 tales.\u00a0For much more on this, see my Ecumenism and Christian Unity web page<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Not every aspect of Jesus\u2019 life is a role model for us. Would you approve of Francis calling the Jewish leaders in Rome a \u201cbrood of vipers\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n

If they deserved<\/em> it, sure. It\u2019s correct if the recipient is worthy to be called it.<\/p>\n

***<\/p>\n

Another variation of this same sort of fallacy with regard to analogies and analogical reasoning occurred yesterday and today on my Facebook page, with my friend, the former evangelical (and politically far left) atheist Jon Curry<\/a> (his words in green<\/span> below).<\/p>\n

I had noted<\/a> how the former NFL quarterback Colin\u00a0Kaepernick<\/a> had blasted \u201cterrorist\u201d America for killing the terrorist Iranian general\u00a0Someilani, on the grounds that we always supposedly attack \u201cBlack and Brown people.\u201d I commented on the article I linked to:<\/p>\n

How much you wanna bet he was cheering when President Obama okayed the killing of the brown brother Osama bin Laden? I would bet the farm on that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

In other words, this was my comment on the (I think) likely hypocrisy of Kaepernick (as opposed to a complete equation<\/em> of General\u00a0Someilani and Osama bin Laden). It was a political observation:\u00a0Kaepernick (like almost all liberals today) was quick to pounce on Trump; so I wondered aloud if he had had the same reaction when President Obama had Osama bin Laden killed. I highly doubt it.<\/p>\n

But then Jon (as is his wont) dug in and committed similar fallacies having to do with analogical arguments: in two different ways. Here is our exchange:<\/p>\n

You\u2019re going to equate Someilani, a guy who fought against ISIS with OBL?<\/span><\/p>\n

Stalin fought Hitler, didn\u2019t he?<\/p>\n

[Jon was arguing, in effect, \u201chey, this guy fought ISIS<\/em>! So [strong insinuation] he can\u2019t be nearly as evil as bin Laden!\u201d My retort was another logical observation: that fighting against an evil group does not prove that one is not<\/em> himself or herself evil; hence, a prime example of \u201cevil against evil\u201d: Stalin fighting Hitler. Stalin was no less evil because he fought another<\/em> extraordinarily evil person, like himself]<\/p>\n

So\u2026Someilani is now Stalin? A week ago you had never heard of him and yet so quickly the war propagandists can have you equating him with Stalin and OBL?<\/span><\/p>\n

[now Jon has made the same mistake twice: the analogical logic employed here simply doesn\u2019t require an equation<\/em> to be made. For my point to be a valid one I didn\u2019t have<\/em> to equate Someilani with Osama bin Laden or<\/em> Stalin (nor did such a thing ever cross my mind). Jon simply doesn\u2019t grasp the sequence of reasoning: and this is very common when analogies are made. Also, when Hitler and\/or Stalin are mentioned \u2014 even when it is relevant to the discussion \u2013, the reaction is usually emotional and knee-jerk and not logical]<\/p>\n

Once again, it is the common mistake of pretending that an obvious partial analogy is intended equivalence. You\u2019re not nearly that stupid, to make such an elementary logical mistake.<\/p>\n

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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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