{"id":43614,"date":"2020-01-24T12:00:34","date_gmt":"2020-01-24T16:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=43614"},"modified":"2020-01-24T12:24:08","modified_gmt":"2020-01-24T16:24:08","slug":"weekly-mass-attenders-can-still-end-up-in-hell-yes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/01\/weekly-mass-attenders-can-still-end-up-in-hell-yes.html","title":{"rendered":"Weekly Mass Attenders Can Still End Up in Hell? Yes!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Attending Mass (Even for an Entire Lifetime) Doesn\u2019t Excuse Us from the Moral Requirements of Christianity, Including Confession of Sin<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-43833\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2020\/01\/DavidNathan2.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"521\"><\/p>\n<p>A Lutheran who has a great interest in Catholicism wrote to me as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[Reformed Baptist apologist James White raises a] particular argument with regard to the Mass and mortal sin. He says, that the Mass perfects no one and someone can still end up in hell, even though they attend Mass regularly but fall into mortal sin and die before they get absolved. As he is a Calvinist, I understand that he believes in the perseverance of the saints, so one can\u2019t lose his salvation. It seems that he is trying to make God less gracious in the Roman \u201csystem\u201d. What are your thoughts? [links to a video of White <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=cmVWzhM8Bbk&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=708&amp;fbclid=IwAR14bY1cUVZJ3zsLR86EKeMvTbcxCo47cRAXATCtSuYgKmpqCorqaFfTg4M\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">speaking about these notions<\/a>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think the easiest way to address this is to appeal to the Bible:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 John 3:15<\/strong> (RSV) Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Revelation 21:8<\/strong> But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Revelation 22:15<\/strong> Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, if one commits any of these sins and doesn\u2019t repent, they are in severe danger of hellfire, according to Holy Scripture: not just in my opinion\u00a0 or that of the Catholic Church.<\/p>\n<p>I could go to Mass or a Protestant service every week my whole life, and Wednesday night Bible studies too, and Monday prayer meetings, but if I decided to go and murder someone, how does that <strong><em>not<\/em><\/strong> lead me to hell, unless I <em>repent<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t see that any system of theology can overcome this. It\u2019s just too biblical. All White and other double predestinarians can say is the weak comeback of \u201cJoe committed murder; therefore, he <em>never was<\/em> a Christian at all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Bible tells us that the believer ought not sin, by nature:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 John 2:3, 5-6<\/strong> And by this we may be sure that we know him, if we keep his commandments. . . . [5] . . . By this we may be sure that we are in him: [6] he who says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 John 3:6-10<\/strong> No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him. [7] Little children, let no one deceive you. He who does right is righteous, as he is righteous. [8] He who commits sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. [9] No one born of God commits sin; for God\u2019s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God. [10] By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yet we <em>do<\/em> sin all the time, and St. John in the same book recognizes that, too (hence, Catholic Masses and Lutheran services both include a general absolution, since they presuppose that such sin has occurred):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 John 1:8-10<\/strong> If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.\u00a0[10] If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 John 2:1<\/strong> My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note that the remedy is not a one-time profession, or being selected from all eternity by God; therefore, no sin can keep us from going to heaven. Rather, it appears that God is assuming a regular scenario of repeated sin, for which we repent and receive forgiveness form God, either directly, or in absolution through a priest, or (as in Lutheranism) through a pastor or any other believer.\u00a0It seems to me to assume that sanctification is an ongoing command and need. For example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 John 3:3<\/strong> And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And this sanctification cannot be unconnected from salvation or justification itself. Of course, this is a big disagreement between Catholics and Protestants. But Arminian \/ Wesleyan Protestants are much closer to our view. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/martin-luther-good-works-prove-authentic-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Luther<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/john-calvin-good-works-manifest-true-saving-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Calvin<\/a> both taught that true, authentic faith is verified by good works; thus, lacking the latter, one may doubt that saving faith is present.<\/p>\n<p>I have argued that that is practically, or in effect the same, as in Catholic teaching on infused justification \/ sanctification.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, God also makes it very clear that one can go through all the required motions and gestures of worship and prayer, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/bible-on-wholehearted-formal-worship.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">if their <em>heart<\/em> is not right and they are in <em>sin<\/em>, it means nothing whatsoever to Him<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>Related Reading:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/04\/st-paul-on-justification-sanctification-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">St. Paul on Justification, Sanctification, &amp; Salvation<\/a>\u00a0[1996]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/05\/justification-in-james-dialogue.html\" target=\"_blank\">Justification in James: Dialogue<\/a>\u00a0[5-8-02]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/09\/dialogue-w-three-lutherans-on-justification-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dialogue w Three Lutherans on Justification &amp; Salvation<\/a>\u00a0[2-1-07]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/03\/formal-human-forgiveness-of-sins-in-the-bible.html\" target=\"_blank\">Formal Human Forgiveness of Sins in the Bible<\/a>\u00a0[6-10-07]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/08\/catholic-bible-verses-on-sanctification-merit.html\" target=\"_blank\">Catholic Bible Verses\u00a0on Sanctification and Merit<\/a>\u00a0[12-20-07]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/final-judgment-works-not-faith-50-passages.html\" target=\"_blank\">Final Judgment &amp;\u00a0<em>Works<\/em>\u00a0(Not Faith): 50 Passages<\/a>\u00a0[2-10-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/03\/examination-conscience-biblical-pauline-evidence.html\" target=\"_blank\">Examination of Conscience: Biblical (Pauline) Evidence<\/a>\u00a0[7-14-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/st-paul-on-grace-faith-works-50-passages.html\" target=\"_blank\">St. Paul on Grace, Faith, &amp; Works (50 Passages)<\/a>\u00a0[8-6-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/luther-on-theosis-sanctification.html\" target=\"_blank\">Martin Luther<\/a><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/luther-on-theosis-sanctification.html\" target=\"_blank\">:\u00a0Strong Elements in His Thinking of\u00a0<em>Theosis<\/em>\u00a0&amp;\u00a0Sanctification Linked to Justification<\/a>\u00a0[11-23-09]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/11\/grace-faith-works-judgment-scriptural-exposition.html\" target=\"_blank\">Grace, Faith, Works,\u00a0&amp; Judgment: A Scriptural Exposition<\/a>\u00a0[12-16-09; reformulated &amp; abridged on 3-15-17]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/02\/sacrament-of-penance-man-made-tradition-vs-calvin-51.html\" target=\"_blank\">Sacrament of Penance: Man-Made Tradition? (vs. Calvin #51)<\/a>\u00a0[12-21-09]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/bible-on-participation-in-our-own-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">Bible on Participation in Our Own Salvation<\/a>\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/bible-on-participation-in-our-own-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">(Always Enabled by God\u2019s Grace)<\/a><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>[1-3-10]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/12\/bible-on-the-nature-of-saving-faith.html\" target=\"_blank\">Bible on the Nature of Saving Faith (Including Assent, Trust, Hope, Works, Obedience, and Sanctification)<\/a>\u00a0[1-21-10]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/09\/biblical-power-proof-of-infused-catholic-justification.html\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical \u201cPower\u201d: Proof of Infused (Catholic) Justification<\/a>\u00a0[3-14-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/12\/justification-not-by-faith-alone-ongoing.html\" target=\"_blank\">Justification:\u00a0<em>Not<\/em>\u00a0by Faith Alone, &amp; Ongoing<\/a>\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/12\/justification-not-by-faith-alone-ongoing.html\" target=\"_blank\">(Romans 4, James 2, and Abraham\u2019s Multiple Justifications)<\/a>\u00a0[10-15-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/05\/salvation-by-grace-alone-not-faith-alone-or-works.html\" target=\"_blank\">Salvation: By Grace Alone,\u00a0<em>Not<\/em>\u00a0Faith Alone or Works<\/a>\u00a0[2013]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/11\/the-bible-on-confession-absolution.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Bible on Confession &amp; Absolution<\/a>\u00a0[2013]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/07\/new-testament-epistles-on-bringing.html\" target=\"_blank\">New Testament Epistles on Bringing About Further Sanctification and Even Salvation By Our Own Actions<\/a>\u00a0[7-2-13]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/05\/bible-men-angels-forgive-sins-as-representatives-of-god.html\" target=\"_blank\">Bible: Men &amp; Angels Forgive Sins as Representatives of God<\/a>\u00a0[7-18-14]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/jesus-vs-faith-alone-rich-young-ruler.html\" target=\"_blank\">Jesus vs. \u201cFaith Alone\u201d (Rich Young Ruler)<\/a>\u00a0[10-12-15]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/dialogue-rich-young-ruler-good-works.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dialogue: Rich Young Ruler &amp; Good Works<\/a>\u00a0[10-14-15]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/11\/catholic-justification-in-james-romans.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cCatholic Justification\u201d in James &amp; Romans<\/a>\u00a0[11-18-15]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/philippians-212-working-out-ones-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">Philippians 2:12 &amp; \u201cWork[ing] Out\u201d One\u2019s Salvation<\/a>\u00a0[1-26-16]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/12\/absolution-sanctification-forgiveness-reply-to-calvin-7.html\" target=\"_blank\">Absolution, Sanctification, &amp; Forgiveness: Reply to Calvin #7<\/a>\u00a0[12-19-18]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/08\/jesus-faith-works-not-faith-alone-leads-to-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\">Jesus: Faith + Works (Not Faith Alone) Leads to Salvation<\/a>\u00a0[8-1-19]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/11\/vs-james-white-6-faith-works-and-first-john.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Vs. James White #6: Faith &amp; Works, and First John<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[11-11-19]<\/span><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<div><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Unfortunately, Money Trees Do Not Exist<\/strong>:<\/span>\u00a0If you have been aided in any way by my work, or think it is valuable and worthwhile, please strongly consider financially supporting it (even $10 \/ month \u2014 a mere 33 cents a day \u2014 would be very helpful). 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