{"id":460,"date":"2011-03-07T19:48:00","date_gmt":"2011-03-07T19:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/03\/the-anglican-newman-1833-1838-on-the-falsity-of-perspicuity-clearness-of-holy-scripture.html"},"modified":"2017-05-30T16:24:38","modified_gmt":"2017-05-30T20:24:38","slug":"the-anglican-newman-1833-1838-on-the-falsity-of-perspicuity-clearness-of-holy-scripture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/03\/the-anglican-newman-1833-1838-on-the-falsity-of-perspicuity-clearness-of-holy-scripture.html","title":{"rendered":"Anglican Newman on the Falsity of Perspicuity (Clearness) of Scripture"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-8948 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2011\/03\/Newman20.jpg\" alt=\"Newman20\" width=\"320\" height=\"409\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n***<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p>(3-7-11)<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>The following are excerpts from my book of quotations from Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/02\/introduction-to-my-upcoming-book.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">The Quotable Newman<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The first selection is from his book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newmanreader.org\/works\/arians\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Arians of the Fourth Century<\/span><\/a> (1833). The second is from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Tracts for the Times<\/span> #73: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newmanreader.org\/works\/essays\/volume1\/rationalism\/section1.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">On the Introduction of Rationalistic Principles into Revealed Religion<\/span><\/a> (1836). All of the remaining excerpts are from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Tracts for the Times<\/span> #85: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newmanreader.org\/works\/arguments\/index.html#scripture\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Lectures on the Scripture Proof of the Doctrines of the Church<\/span><\/a> (September 1838).<\/p>\n<p>* * * * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">. . . the Bible, though various in its parts, forms a whole, grounded on a few distinct doctrinal principles discernible throughout it; and is in consequence intelligible indeed in its general drift, but obscure in its text; and even tempts the student, if I may so speak, to a lax and disrespectful interpretation of it.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">No revelation can be complete and systematic, from the weakness of the human intellect; s<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">o far as<\/span> it is not such, it is mysterious. When nothing is revealed, nothing is known, and there is nothing to contemplate or marvel at; but when something is revealed, and only something, for all cannot be, there are forthwith difficulties and perplexities. A Revelation is religious doctrine viewed on its illuminated side; a Mystery is the selfsame doctrine viewed on the side unilluminated. Thus Religious Truth is neither light nor darkness, but both together; it is like the dim view of a country seen in the twilight, with forms half extricated from the darkness, with broken lines, and isolated masses. Revelation, in this way of considering it, is not a revealed <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">system<\/span>, but consists of a number of detached and incomplete truths belonging to a vast system unrevealed, of doctrines and injunctions mysteriously connected together; that is, connected by unknown media, and bearing upon unknown portions of the system. And in this sense we see the propriety of calling St. John\u2019s prophecies, though highly mysterious, yet a revelation.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">. . . though there really is a true creed or system in Scripture, still it is not on the surface of Scripture, but is found latent and implicit within it, and to be maintained only by indirect arguments, by comparison of texts, by inferences from what is said plainly, and by overcoming or resigning oneself to difficulties . . . If we will not submit to the notion of the doctrines of the Gospel being hidden under the text of Scripture from the view of the chance reader, we must submit to believe either that there are no doctrines at all in Christianity, or that the doctrines are not in Scripture, . . .<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">If we will have it so, that the doctrines of Scripture should be on the surface of Scripture, though I may have my very definite notion what doctrines <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">are<\/span> on the surface, and you yours, and another his, yet you and he and I, though each of us in appearance competent to judge, though all serious men, earnest, and possessed of due attainments, nevertheless will not agree together <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">what<\/span> those doctrines are; so that, practically, what I have said will come about in the end,\u2014that (if we are candid) we shall be forced to allow, that there is no system, no creed, no doctrine at all lucidly and explicitly set forth in Scripture . . .<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">As to the nondescript system of religion now in fashion, viz., that nothing is to be believed but what is clearly stated in Scripture, that all its own doctrines are clearly there and none other, and that, as to history, it is no matter what history says and what it does not say, except so far as it must of course be used to prove the canonicity of Scripture, . . . it has all the external extravagance of Latitudinarianism without any gain in consistency.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">That He has overruled matters so far as to make the apparently casual writings of the Apostles a complete canon of saving faith, is no reason why He should have given them a systematic structure, or a didactic form, or a completeness in their subject-matter.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">. . . if Scripture contains any religious system at all, it <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">must <\/span>contain it covertly, and teach it obscurely, because it is altogether most immethodical and irregular in its structure; and therefore, that the indirectness of the Scripture proofs of the Catholic system is not an objection to its cogency, except as it is an objection to the Scripture proofs of every other form of Christianity . . .<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">. . . we are nowhere told in Scripture, certainly not in the Old Testament, that the Serpent that tempted Eve was the Devil. The nearest approach to an intimation of it is the last book of the Bible, where the devil is called \u201cthat old serpent.\u201d Can we be surprised that other truths are but obscurely conveyed in Scripture, when this hardly escapes (as I may say) omission?<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">The characteristics then, of the narrative portion of Scripture are such as I have described; it is unsystematic and unstudied;\u2014from which I would infer, that as Scripture relates <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">facts<\/span> without aiming at completeness or consistency, so it relates <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">doctrines<\/span> also; . . . From which it follows, that we must not be surprised to find in Scripture doctrines of the Gospel, however momentous, nevertheless taught obliquely, and capable only of circuitous proof;\u2014such, for instance, . . . the especial Church doctrines, such as the Apostolical Succession, the efficacy of the Holy Eucharist, . . .<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">I have been arguing that Scripture is a deep book, and that the peculiar doctrines concerning the Church, contained in the Prayer Book, are in its depths. Now let it be remarked in corroboration, first, that the early Church always did consider Scripture to be what I have been arguing that it is from its structure,\u2014viz., a book with very recondite meanings; this they considered, not merely with reference to its teaching the particular class of doctrines in question, but as regards its entire teaching. They considered that it was full of mysteries. Therefore, saying that Scripture has deep meanings, is not an hypothesis invented to meet this particular difficulty, that the Church doctrines are not on its surface, but is an acknowledged principle of interpretation independent of it.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">We have reason to believe that God, our Maker and Governor, has spoken to us by Revelation; yet why has He not spoken more distinctly? He has given us doctrines which are but obscurely gathered from Scripture, and a Scripture which is but obscurely gathered from history.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">That Gospel which was to be \u201cthe glory of His people Israel,\u201d [Luke ii. 32.] was a stumblingblock to them, as for other reasons, so especially <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">because<\/span> it was not on the <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">surface <\/span>of the Old Testament.<\/div>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>*** (3-7-11) *** The following are excerpts from my book of quotations from Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman: The Quotable Newman. The first selection is from his book, Arians of the Fourth Century (1833). The second is from Tracts for the Times #73: On the Introduction of Rationalistic Principles into Revealed Religion (1836). 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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