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\"DinnerParty\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Photo by Robert Nyman, 4-7-06<\/span> [Flickr<\/a> \/ CC BY 2.0<\/a> license]<\/p>\n

[from 6-9-15]<\/p>\n

Atheist Jon Curry\u2019s words will be in blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Reports and rumors and bald assertions that I supposedly can\u2019t get along with any atheist or that none would possibly put up with my alleged arrogance and disingenuous polemics (I was accused of those two things just two days ago), are (like Mark Twain\u2019s death) greatly exaggerated. Here are some facts<\/em>\u00a0(for those interested in such trivialities).<\/p>\n

* * * * *<\/p>\n

It\u2019s gonna be a great night. I was invited by my friend Jon Curry<\/a>, who is a former evangelical atheist. This is the same group where I did a Q & A all by myself, with 16 atheists \/ agnostics<\/a>, in August or September 2010.<\/p>\n

I consider it to have been the most enjoyable evening of apologetics that I ever experienced in 34 years. Jon later wrote about it:<\/p>\n

A lot of atheists regard Christian belief as extremely easy to debunk and I thought it would be fun to bring in someone that has thought through common objections and is able to turn it back on atheists. Make them exercise their brains a bit. We had a great time with Dave.<\/span><\/p>\n

In October of that same year, I invited Jon to come to my house to try to prove that Jesus didn\u2019t exist. About 7 or 8 of us Catholics were present. It was another very fun and congenial evening spent. He kindly wrote about that:<\/p>\n

Dave [is] one of those people that is able to sit down and disagree with me strongly, but do it in a way that makes for productive and friendly dialogue. Not all Christians can do this, nor can all skeptics.<\/span><\/p>\n

He added:<\/p>\n

In my experience Catholics are largely among the most kindly and empathetic of Christians.<\/span><\/p>\n

I return those warm compliments. Jon is a very friendly and considerate guy: a prime example that not all atheists are mean and ornery and arrogant (some are that, but many if not most, are not). Maybe one day he\u2019ll be back in the fold. Pray for him!<\/p>\n

In the meantime, we Christians can talk as friends or friendly acquaintances with atheists and at least find what common ground we may have (the ecumenical aspect); and I will defend theism, Christianity, and Catholicism in my usual low-key, relatively \u201cnon-confrontational\u201d fashion, as opportunity arises. There is no shortage of questions asked when a lone Christian is present with many atheists, so those opportunities are abundant. I need not initiate anything.<\/p>\n

But (speaking particularly as someone who loves dialogue and debate), I think it\u2019s fun to get with folks, occasionally, who have very different belief-systems: as long as it is friendly (not interested in shouting matches and mudfests).<\/p>\n

This group is that, so it\u2019s pleasurable hangin\u2019 out. I look forward to the next time.<\/p>\n

* * *<\/p>\n

[report afterwards]<\/p>\n

I had a great time. We talked for four-and-a-half hours. I was just<\/em>\u00a0getting over a severe cold. I feel exhausted today after putting out so much mental energy last night!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Also had a great time Dave, and I\u2019m sure\u00a0Anamika Michigan,\u00a0Glenn Gayer,\u00a0\u00a0Steve Sonntag,\u00a0Bruce Townley\u00a0and Bargava had fun as well. Glad you were able to join. How late did you stay? Normally I stay late and can\u2019t pull myself away, but knew I had to get moving last night.<\/span><\/p>\n

Well, we went right up to closing time at 11; not long after you left. I was trying to listen to the basketball game all the way home: some sports commentator was talking about it, but not doing play-by-play, which was weird. I actually saw the very end at a party store near my house.<\/p>\n

Then I got to hear my son Michael vent at home. He despises<\/em>\u00a0LeBron James!<\/p>\n

[Glenn Gayer<\/a>]\u00a0Lots of fun. Thanks for putting up with us Dave. Always interesting to hear your perspective.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Likewise, Glenn! We could<\/em>\u00a0have easily talked an hour on any one of the 17 or so specific topics brought up . . .<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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