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Romans 5:2<\/b>\u00a0Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of\u00a0sharing the glory of God.<\/p>\n
Romans 9:23\u00a0<\/strong>in order to make known the\u00a0riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory,<\/p>\n Ephesians 3:16-19<\/strong>\u00a0that according to the\u00a0riches of his glory\u00a0he may grant you to be strengthened with might through his Spirit in the inner man, [17] and that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] may have power to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, [19] and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be\u00a0filled with all the fulness of God.<\/p>\n Hebrews 6:4<\/strong>\u00a0. . .\u00a0partakers\u00a0of the Holy Spirit,<\/p>\n See also:\u00a0Biblical Evidence for God Sharing His Glory With His Creatures<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n The argument herein presented is an example of\u00a0reductio ad absurdum<\/em>, or (in popular lingo) \u201cit proves too much\u201d. If remarks made by popes about speaking for God, etc., are absurdly taken as\u00a0equations\u00a0with God, then the same must apply to\u00a0Protestants\u00a0who speak in similar terms, including the founder of Protestantism himself, Martin Luther: who actually assumed far more authority for himself (as did Calvin, Henry VIII and many other Protestant leaders; so-called \u201creformers\u201d) than any pope ever dreamt of claiming. I\u2019ve been pointing this out for over twenty years now.<\/p>\n The fundamental error is inability to understand the range of how language is used, and to grasp the context of the statements themselves, and how they fit into the overall picture of Catholicism.<\/p>\n * * * * *<\/p><\/div>\n A Protestant who actually\u00a0believes\u00a0this pope-as-God stuff, named\u00a0Gregory Mathew Kuglin, came onto the combox and expressed himself (on\u00a02-18-11). I appreciated his cordiality, if not his ideas:<\/p>\n Hi Dave,<\/p>\n I did not know that the commonly used quotation of Pius V is inaccurate. I\u2019ll take your word on this one, because admittedly I\u2019ve never read that book by Barclay, not even Chapter XXVII, p. 218.<\/p>\n Your post however did not touch on the other quotations I posted in the same article. These are from other sources, written at different times.<\/p>\n Even if the popes and those involved in the Catholic system never proposed that the pope \u201cis as God on earth,\u201d (papa est QUASI DEUS IN TERRA), as Pope Boniface VIII did, there is still abundant evidence from the Holy Bible, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, that the papal position is one totally apart from the God of truth, and is an attempt to usurp his glory.<\/p>\n For example, Paragraph 882 of the Catechism:<\/p>\n The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter\u2019s successor, is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful. For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Is this not saying that the pope holds the position, power, and influence of Jesus Christ, God on earth? But the Bible says all things, and every name that is named are under the feet of Jesus (Eph 1:17-22). This would include Peter, and every \u2018successor\u2019 after him.<\/p>\n Then paragraphs 890, and 891 of the CCC mention infallibility. Only one was perfect in faith and morals, and that was and is Jesus Christ, who lived without sin. Peter proved he was fallible when he ignorantly tried to persuade Jesus against conquering sin and death; and Jesus rebuked him as Satan (Mt 16:21-23).<\/p>\n Thank you for link to my blog. Further discussion on any Catholic topic is definitely welcomed by me.<\/p>\n Sincerely,<\/p>\n Greg Kuglin<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n I\u00a0replied:<\/p>\n The pope represents Jesus on earth. That no more makes him equal to God than being an ambassador of the United States makes a person the same as the United States.<\/p><\/div>\n It\u2019s just silly.<\/p>\n You seem like a sensible person. Can\u2019t you see the logical distinctions here?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Another esteemed regular on my blog, \u201cJordanes 551\u201d also\u00a0commented:<\/p>\n In addition, as for those few times when Catholic theologians have spoken of the pope as \u201cquasi deus in terra<\/i>,\u201d how is that any more objectionable than Psalm 44 (45):7-8, where the Davidic King of Judah, a mere mortal, is addressed with the words, \u201cThy throne,\u00a0O God<\/b>, is forevermore; a sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou dost love justice and hate iniquity: therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee, with oil of gladness above thy fellows\u201d? Or Psalm 81 (82):6, where God addresses human, mortal judges with the words, \u201cI have said: \u2018You are\u00a0elohim<\/i>, and all of you, the sons of the Most High.\u201d<\/p>\n If He called them gods to whom the word of God was addressed (and the Scripture cannot be broken), dost thou say of him to whom Christ hath given the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and granted unto him royal power as steward of the House of David and servant of the King, \u201cThou blasphemest,\u201d because it has been said of him that he is\u00a0like<\/i>\u00a0God on the earth?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n [John 10] 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy ; and because thou, being a man, makest thyself God.<\/p>\n 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?<\/p>\n 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken;<\/p>\n 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sandtified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?<\/p>\n 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.<\/p>\n 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works; that ye may know, and believe, that the Father\u00a0is\u00a0<\/i>in me, and I in him.<\/i><\/p>\n Thou, being a man, makest thyself God.\u00a0Nature knows that there is a God who helps, but\u00a0who\u00a0<\/i>that God is, she knows not. Christ has God\u2019s work, and speaks God\u2019s word, yet the Jews can not know him through their reason.<\/i><\/p>\n I said, Ye are gods.\u00a0In Exodus xxii. 28,\u00a0the judges\u00a0(Elohim, not Jehovah,)\u00a0are called gods on account of their office, because they sit in God\u2019s stead and are God\u2019s servants; so also all Christians are called gods, as Christ here shows from Ps. lxxxii. 6.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n 2)\u00a0Heinrich Bullinger\u00a0[16th century \u201creformer\u201d],\u00a0The Decades of Henry Bullinger<\/a><\/em>, vol. 5, edited by Thomas Harding, Cambridge University Press, 1852 ,\u00a0p. 95<\/a>:<\/p>\n 3)\u00a0Martin Luther,\u00a0Against the Spiritual Estate of the Pope and the Bishops Falsely So-Called\u00a0<\/em>(July 1522):<\/p>\n I now let you know that from now on\u00a0I shall no longer do you the honor of allowing you \u2013 or even an angel from heaven \u2013 to judge my teaching or to examine it. For there has been enough foolish humility now for the third time at Worms, and it has not helped. Instead, I shall let myself be heard and, as St. Peter teaches, give an explanation and defense of my teaching to all the world \u2013 I Pet. 3:15.\u00a0I shall not have it judged by any man, not even by any angel. For since I am certain of it, I shall be your judge and even the angels\u2019 judge through this teaching\u00a0(as St. Paul says [I Cor. 6:3 ]) so that\u00a0whoever does not accept my teaching may not be saved \u2013 for it is God\u2019s and not mine. Therefore,\u00a0my judgment is also not mine but God\u2019s.\u00a0(From: Luther\u2019s Works<\/em>, edited by Jaroslav Pelikan (volumes 1-30) and Helmut T. Lehmann (volumes 31-55), St. Louis: Concordia Pub. House (volumes 1-30); Philadelphia: Fortress Press (volumes 31-55), 1955. This work from Volume 39:\u00a0Church and Ministry I\u00a0(edited by J. Pelikan, H. C. Oswald, and H. T. Lehmann); pages 239-299; translated by Eric W. and Ruth C. Gritsch; excerpt from 248-249)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n 4)\u00a0Martin Luther,\u00a0Against Henry VIII, King of England<\/em>\u00a0(15 July 1522):<\/p>\n 5)\u00a0Martin Luther,\u00a0Reply to the Answer of the Leipzig Goat\u00a0<\/em>(1521):<\/p>\n I have said repeatedly: Assail my person if you will, and in any way you will; I do not claim to be an angel.\u00a0But I will allow no one to assail my teaching with impunity, since I know that it is not mine, but God\u2019s.\u00a0For on this depends my neighbor\u2019s salvation and my own, to God\u2019s praise and honor.\u00a0<\/span>(From:\u00a0Works of Martin Luther<\/em>, Philadelphia: A. J. Holman Co. and the Castle Press, 1930; reprinted by Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1982 , Volume 3, 293-294; translated by A. 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