{"id":50429,"date":"2020-08-17T11:24:50","date_gmt":"2020-08-17T15:24:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=50429"},"modified":"2020-08-17T11:24:50","modified_gmt":"2020-08-17T15:24:50","slug":"president-trump-never-heard-of-frederick-douglass","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/08\/president-trump-never-heard-of-frederick-douglass.html","title":{"rendered":"President Trump Never Heard of Frederick Douglass?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-50431\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2020\/08\/DouglassFrederick.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"592\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">[originally 2-1-17 on Facebook]<\/p>\n<p>President Trump said, \u201cFrederick Douglass is an example of somebody who has done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If we do<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=opera&amp;q=trump%2C+frederick+douglass&amp;sourceid=opera&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;fbclid=IwAR0raNVcj8jHdPcQcdJYIcCvuJbyd9vnmHOx0Sbv5AwqvG7kd0piAd5gCb4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> a Google search<\/a>, liberals and otherwise anti-Trump zealots are engaging in verbal diarrhea all over the place, making utter fools of themselves, in claiming that this proves that Trump thinks Frederick Douglass is still alive or that he is utterly ignorant about who he was.<\/p>\n<p><em>Mother Jones<\/em> pontificated: \u201cThe remarks immediately called into question whether the president knew who the abolitionist actually was . . .\u201d <em>The Atlantic<\/em> in its infinite wisdom, added: \u201cDoes Donald Trump actually know who Frederick Douglass was?\u201d And the infallible <em>Esquire<\/em> ran the headline: \u201cDoes President Trump Think Frederick Douglass Is Still Alive?\u201d Subtitle: \u201cHis characterization wouldn\u2019t pass a 4th grade book report.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These guys are dead serious! And that\u2019s why it is gut-bustingly funny to observe.<\/p>\n<p>Although it is a bit unusual language, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ego4u.com\/en\/cram-up\/grammar\/tenses\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his expression was actually grammatical<\/a>. This is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ego4u.com\/en\/cram-up\/grammar\/present-perfect-simple\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Present Perfect Simple tense<\/a> in English grammar. According to a web page on tenses, it can be used in the following ways:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>* putting emphasis on the result<\/p>\n<p>* action that is still going on<\/p>\n<p>* action that stopped recently<\/p>\n<p>* finished action that has an influence on the present<\/p>\n<p>* action that has taken place once, never or several times before the moment of speaking<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As we can see, all but the third apply (since Douglass died in 1895): 4 out of 5.<\/p>\n<p>So, as usual with hysterical, hilariously funny, logically- and charity- challenged anti-Trumpism, there is nothing to it at all. Much ado about nothing . . . Couldn\u2019t they have [that\u2019s the Conditional II Simple tense] taken a second to consult a grammar explanation, as I did [Simple Past tense]? Would that have put them out?<\/p>\n<p>Thus, in the act of (quite astonishingly) condescendingly pretending that Trump has no idea who Douglass was, they show that they have no idea what English grammar is, or how to use Google for two seconds, to see if the tense was possible to use in that context.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t remember the tense names, either. I <em>hated<\/em> grammar in school, even though I ended up as a writer and got A\u2019s in my English classes. That\u2019s not the point. It\u2019s that <em>they couldn\u2019t look it up<\/em>. Instead, they went right after Trump, and consequently made asses of themselves. Poetic justice, if ever there was a case of it!<\/p>\n<p>The final laugh is at their expense, and I think that is delicious: exactly as it should be: the mockers show themselves far more ignorant than the target they set out to besmirch.<\/p>\n<p>Sun Tzu, the Chinese Chinese general, military strategist, and philosopher (c. 544- 496 BC) wrote the classic <em>Art of War<\/em>. He stated in that masterpiece:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Master Sun talks often about deception and therefore warns against being deceived by the enemy and underestimating their ability. \u2018He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.\u2019 It\u2019s important to properly assess your opponent without prejudice or assumption.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Liberals, third-partiers, and Establishment Republicans are massively committing this elementary mistake and a textbook exhibition of a profound absence of charity right now. I hope that they continue indefinitely, because it is already setting up a massive landslide re-election of Trump in 2020.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s another famous saying, too: \u201cif your opponent is self-destructing, you get out of the way and let him do it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I asked an anti-Trumpist friend of mine: \u201cHow does this show that Trump didn\u2019t know who he was? Please explain this \u201clogic\u201d to me.\u201d\u00a0He replied:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Does it <em><strong>sound<\/strong><\/em> like he knows he\u2019s talking about a historical figure who died the century before last? Or does it sound like he thinks he might be talking about someone who\u2019s maybe still around today?<\/p>\n<p>What grammar books say in the abstract is one thing. How language actually sounds to the ears of native English speakers is another. Context matters. Would you say \u201cGeorge Washington has left a lasting mark on history\u201d? Sure. Would you say \u201cGeorge Washington has done a great job\u201d? Of course not. I can\u2019t stop you from putting your fingers in your ears and saying \u201cLa la la, it sounds fine to me!\u201d but every native English speaker reading this knows I\u2019m right.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is why we have dictionaries and rules of grammar. It would be chaos without them.\u00a0So he uses some \u201cgoofy\u201d language? So <em>what<\/em>? Because of <strong><em>that<\/em><\/strong>, the liberals decide he either didn\u2019t know who Douglass was at all, or thinks that he is still alive?\u00a0It\u2019s the funniest thing in the world to watch. My love of satire and human folly has never been so much fun as now.<\/p>\n<p>If President Trump doesn\u2019t know who Frederick Douglass was \u201cbecause\u201d he used an odd-sounding but permissible grammatical tense (Present Perfect Simple), what can we conclude that oh-so-smart President Obama didn\u2019t know, as evidenced by repeatedly saying \u201cCorPsman\u201d with a hard P: which really <strong><em>is<\/em><\/strong> stupid and completely unjustifiable (not to mention funny as all get-out)?\u00a0Maybe he didn\u2019t know that Noah Webster ever lived? Or that there is such a thing as the US Marine Corps [which is pronounced as \u201ckor\u201d and not \u201ccorpse\u201d]? The guy never even watched <em>Gomer Pyle<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>This silliness reminds me of the time that Trump said \u201cTwo Corinthians\u201d in a church, rather than \u201c2nd Corinthians\u201d, and all the nattering nabobs were saying how ignorant and unacquainted with Christian practice he was.\u00a0It turned out that at least some\u00a0Presbyterians (especially Scottish ones) say it that way. Trump\u2019s mother was from Scotland. Then I heard from several on my Facebook page, saying that their church (or former church, as it were) did the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>Foiled again! But millions had probably read the potshots and very few the altogether sensible rebuttal.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Frederick Douglass in the 1860s<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Frederick_Douglass_c1860s.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[originally 2-1-17 on Facebook] President Trump said, \u201cFrederick Douglass is an example of somebody who has done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice.\u201d If we do a Google search, liberals and otherwise anti-Trump zealots are engaging in verbal diarrhea all over the place, making utter fools of themselves, in 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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