{"id":50808,"date":"2020-08-28T11:28:12","date_gmt":"2020-08-28T15:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=50808"},"modified":"2020-08-28T11:28:12","modified_gmt":"2020-08-28T15:28:12","slug":"seidensticker-folly-43-intellectual-cowardice-hypocrisy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/08\/seidensticker-folly-43-intellectual-cowardice-hypocrisy.html","title":{"rendered":"Seidensticker Folly #43: Intellectual Cowardice &#038; Hypocrisy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-50811\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2020\/08\/RockwellNoSwimming2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"590\" height=\"768\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Atheist and anti-theist\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bob Seidensticker<\/a>,\u00a0who was\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2012\/08\/post-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u201craised Presbyterian\u201d<\/a>,\u00a0runs the influential<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>\u00a0Cross Examined<\/em><\/a>\u00a0blog. He asked me there,\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/25-stupid-arguments-christians-should-avoid-part-7-2\/#comment-4033896473\" target=\"_blank\">on 8-11-18<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cI\u2019ve got 1000+ posts here attacking your worldview. You just going to let that stand? Or could you present a helpful new perspective that I\u2019ve ignored on one or two of those posts?\u201d<\/span>\u00a0He also made a general statement\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2017\/06\/christians-need-atheist-speaker-next-conference\/\" target=\"_blank\">on 6-22-17<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cChristians\u2019 arguments are easy to refute . . . I\u2019ve heard the good stuff, and it\u2019s not very good.\u201d\u00a0<\/span>He added\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2017\/06\/christians-need-atheist-speaker-next-conference\/#comment-3386826295\" target=\"_blank\">in the combox<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cIf I\u2019ve misunderstood the Christian position or Christian arguments, point that out. Show me where I\u2019ve mischaracterized them.\u201d\u00a0<\/span>Such confusion would indeed be\u00a0<em>predictable<\/em>, seeing that Bob himself admitted\u00a0(<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2016\/02\/christians-damning-refuge-in-difficult-verses-let-the-bible-clarify-the-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\">2-13-16<\/a>):<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u00a0\u201cMy study of the Bible has been haphazard, and I jump around based on whatever I\u2019m researching at the moment.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Bob (for the record) virtually\u00a0<em>begged<\/em>\u00a0and<em>\u00a0pleaded<\/em>\u00a0with me to dialogue with him in May 2018, via email. But by\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/5_ways_to_correct_misinformation_while_minimizing_the_backfire_effect\/#comment-4128127494\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">10-3-18<\/a>,\u00a0following\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/hysterical-frenzy-vs-me-on-atheist-seidenstickers-blog.html\" target=\"_blank\">massive, childish name-calling attacks<\/a>\u00a0against me,\u00a0 encouraged by Bob on his blog (just prior to his\u00a0<em>banning<\/em>\u00a0me from it), his opinion was as follows:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cDave Armstrong . . . made it clear that a thoughtful intellectual conversation wasn\u2019t his goal. . . . [I] have no interest in what he\u2019s writing about.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">And on 10-25-18, utterly oblivious to the ludicrous irony of\u00a0<em>his<\/em>\u00a0making the statement, Bob\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/top_20_most_damning_bible_contradictions_3_of_4\/#comment-4161428863\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">wrote in a combox<\/a>\u00a0on his blog:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cSomeone who\u2019s not a little bit driven to investigate cognitive dissonance will just stay a Christian, fat \u2018n sassy and ignorant.\u201d\u00a0<\/span>Again,\u00a0Bob mocks some Christian in his combox on\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/top_20_most_damning_bible_contradictions\/#comment-4166417216\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">10-27-18<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cYou can\u2019t explain it to us, you can\u2019t defend it, you can\u2019t even defend it to yourself. Defend your position or shut up about it. It\u2019s clear you have nothing.\u201d<\/span>\u00a0And again\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/top_20_most_damning_bible_contradictions\/#comment-4166419680\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">on the same day<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cIf you can\u2019t answer the question, man up and say so.\u201d<\/span>\u00a0And on\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/top_20_most_damning_bible_contradictions\/#comment-4166507408\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">10-26-18<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cyou refuse to defend it, after being asked over and over again.\u201d<\/span>\u00a0And\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disqus.com\/home\/discussion\/crossexamined\/top_20_most_damning_bible_contradictions\/#comment-4167075145\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">again<\/a>:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201c<i>You\u2019re<\/i>\u00a0the one playing games, equivocating, and being unable to answer the challenges.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Bob\u2019s cowardly hypocrisy knows no bounds. Again,\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2019\/06\/response-to-atheists-five-worst-arguments-2-of-2\/#comment-4522378558\" target=\"_blank\">on 6-30-19<\/a>, he was chiding someone for something very much like he himself:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cSpoken like a true weasel trying to run away from a previous argument. You know, you could just say, \u2018Let me retract my previous statement of X\u2019 or something like that.\u201d<\/span>\u00a0Yeah,\u00a0<em>Bob<\/em>\u00a0could!\u00a0\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/07\/atheist-bob-seidensticker-intellectual-coward-my-32-critiques.html\" target=\"_blank\">He still hasn\u2019t yet uttered one peep in reply<\/a>\u00a0to \u2014 now \u2014 41 of my critiques of his atrocious reasoning.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Bible-Basher Bob\u2019s words will be in\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.\u00a0To find these posts, follow this link:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=Seidensticker+Folly+%23\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cSeidensticker Folly #\u201d<\/a> or see all of them linked under his own section on my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/atheism-agnosticism-secularism-index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Atheism page<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p>Bob runs the popular <em>Cross Examined<\/em>\u00a0blog: whose purpose is to mock, lie about, make fun of, misrepresent Christians and Christianity. He was active on my blog sometime in the past and was banned for being bigoted against Christianity. He virtually begged me in an email, to be unbanned \/ unblocked, and claimed that he was not prejudiced against Christians or Christianity at all: that it was all a big misunderstanding.<\/p>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Thus in May he <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/05\/hell-dialogue-with-a-philosophy-graduate-student.html#comment-3903791199\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">became very active on one combox thread<\/a>: dialoguing mostly with Deacon Steven D. Greydanus, and also with me. We soon engaged in what I thought was a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/05\/why-do-we-worship-god-dialogue-with-an-atheist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">good dialogue, about worship<\/a>.\u00a0Meanwhile, I was checking his blog to see if indeed he had bigoted attitudes or not. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/05\/seidensticker-christians-r-intellectually-dishonest-idiots.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Indeed, he did, as I documented<\/a>. We engaged in one more dialogue (still in May 2018)<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/05\/reply-to-atheist-seidensticker-on-demands-for-evidence.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> about \u201cevidence\u201d<\/a>. Then he mainly stayed away, but showed up again in August, His behavior was such that I again blocked him, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/why-i-blocked-anti-theist-atheist-bob-seidensticker.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">meticulously explained <em>why<\/em><\/a> (knowing I would have hell to pay for banning an atheist hero and supposed \u201cchampion\u201d).<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">This led to a huge (and utterly predictable) reaction on his blog, where <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/hysterical-frenzy-vs-me-on-atheist-seidenstickers-blog.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I was subject to every imaginable personal attack<\/a>. I documented it for posterity (so people can see how the sub-group of \u201cangry \/ anti-theist\u201d atheists argue). To sum up the anger and supposed \u201crighteous indignation\u201d against me, I was savaged primarily because I had the gall to ban Bob from my page (as if there were no conceivable good reason to do that).<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Then the crowning absurd irony was that Bob banned <strong><em>me<\/em><\/strong> from <em><strong>his<\/strong><\/em> blog, after less than two days (!!!). So the very thing that drew down titanic and volcanic ire upon my head, <em>Bob himself did<\/em>. But he\u2019s perfect and I\u2019m Vlad the Impaler and the biggest scumbag that ever walked the face of the earth. Go figure . . .<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Meanwhile, I wrote two articles critiquing Bob\u2019s views on science, scientism, and Christianity\u2019s relationship to science:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/science-only-discipline-that-tells-us-new-things-about-reality.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Science: \u201conly discipline that tells us new things about reality\u201d [???]: Scientism or Near-Scientism as a Very Common Shortcoming of Atheist Epistemology<\/a>\u00a0[8-9-18]<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/08\/rebuttal-of-seidenstickers-anti-christian-science-history.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Rebuttal of Seidensticker\u2019s Anti-Christian Science \u201cHistory\u201d<\/a>\u00a0[8-11-18]<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Even so, on the attack thread on his blog (which is now up to 561 comments as I write, with a second one partially devoted to savaging me, up to 768 and still rising), Bob still managed \u2014 not long before banning me \u2014 to challenge me to reply to his papers:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/25-stupid-arguments-christians-should-avoid-part-7-2\/#comment-4033896473\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> on 8-11-18<\/a>: \u201cI\u2019ve got 1000+ posts here attacking your worldview. You just going to let that stand? Or could you present a helpful new perspective that I\u2019ve ignored on one or two of those posts?\u201d<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">As a result of that challenge, I decided to do a series of replies to his posts. So far, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong?s=seidensticker+folly+%23\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I have completed 42<\/a>. Thus far, crickets; no response at all [which remains true more than two years later]. Someone informed Bob of #4 (while many of his bootlicking sycophants attacked me up and down in his combox, with his approval). <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/when-christianity-was-in-charge-this-is-what-we-got-2\/#comment-4040780632\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Here\u2019s how Bob responded<\/a>:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I can\u2019t imagine I\u2019m missing much by not reading it.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Why read it? He has no credibility. Posts like that are the equivalent of <em>The National Inquirer<\/em>\u00a0or <em>Weekly World News<\/em>. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/when-christianity-was-in-charge-this-is-what-we-got-2\/#comment-4041744705\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">link<\/a>]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I have no interest in visiting his blog anymore, . . . [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/crossexamined\/2018\/08\/when-christianity-was-in-charge-this-is-what-we-got-2\/#comment-4041811738\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">link<\/a>]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Now, doesn\u2019t all this strike <em>you<\/em>, dear reader, as two-faced, hypocritical, and evasive \/ run for the hills intellectual cowardice (as it does <em>me<\/em>)?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">If he\u2019s truly interested in debate and dialogue with the Christian position, then he needs to put up or shut up. After all, <em><strong>he<\/strong><\/em> was the one who came to me, begging to be \u201clet into\u201d my blog in order to have debates. I was happy to let him, but he didn\u2019t follow my rules, and so was at length banned.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Then <strong><em>he<\/em> <\/strong>(even in the midst of all the asinine, ridiculous personal attacks that he thinks are fine) challenged <strong><em>me<\/em><\/strong> to reply to his papers. I do so [now 42 times], and then he comes back with: \u201cWhy read it? He has no credibility.\u201d<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Fair enough. I will continue to refute his anti-Christian, poorly argued (and that\u2019s putting it very mildly) garbage because people are out there reading it and being influenced by it. Whether he responds or decides to run, lobbing grenades at me all the way, is up to him. I will continue to refute error and lies with regard to Christian beliefs, just as I have done these past 39 years.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>(originally posted on Facebook on 8-15-18; slightly expanded on 8-28-20)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:\u00a0<\/strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Norman Rockwell\u2019s<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockwell-center.org\/image-gallery\/image-gallery\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>No Swimming<\/i><\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">, the cover for <em>The Saturday Evening Post<\/em>, published 4 June 1921<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:1921-6-4_No_Swimming_-_Norman_Rockwell.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Atheist and anti-theist\u00a0Bob Seidensticker,\u00a0who was\u00a0\u201craised Presbyterian\u201d,\u00a0runs the influential\u00a0Cross Examined\u00a0blog. He asked me there,\u00a0on 8-11-18:\u00a0\u201cI\u2019ve got 1000+ posts here attacking your worldview. You just going to let that stand? Or could you present a helpful new perspective that I\u2019ve ignored on one or two of those posts?\u201d\u00a0He also made a general statement\u00a0on 6-22-17:\u00a0\u201cChristians\u2019 arguments are easy [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":50811,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[124],"tags":[1054,4126,11811,5552,11814,6642,11808,11805],"class_list":["post-50808","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-atheism-agnosticism","tag-atheist-christian-dialogue","tag-bob-seidensticker","tag-courage-of-ones-convictions","tag-cross-examined","tag-intellectual-confidence","tag-intellectual-cowardice","tag-intellectual-duty","tag-intellectual-hypocrisy"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Seidensticker Folly #43: Intellectual Cowardice &amp; Hypocrisy Seidensticker Folly #43: Intellectual Cowardice &amp; Hypocrisy<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Atheist and anti-theist\u00a0Bob Seidensticker,\u00a0who was\u00a0\u201craised Presbyterian\u201d,\u00a0runs the influential\u00a0Cross Examined\u00a0blog. 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