{"id":5291,"date":"2016-01-01T17:13:23","date_gmt":"2016-01-01T21:13:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=5291"},"modified":"2017-06-03T12:53:51","modified_gmt":"2017-06-03T16:53:51","slug":"mother-of-god-quick-effective-biblical-proof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/mother-of-god-quick-effective-biblical-proof.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Mother of God&#8221;: Quick, Effective, Unanswerable Biblical Proof"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/01\/Mary24.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-5292 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/01\/Mary24.jpg\" alt=\"Mary24\" width=\"543\" height=\"600\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Adoration in the Forest<\/em> (c. 1459), by \u00a0Filippo Lippi (1406-1469)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Fra_Filippo_Lippi_002.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">(12-11-08)<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">* * * * *<\/div>\n<p>A formerly Baptist woman wrote on the Coming Home Network forum:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If I called Mary\u00a0<em>God\u2019s mother<\/em>, I felt I was saying the human being born at a certain time in history (a creature) had \u201ccreated,\u201d had given life to, God Himself, Who had not previously existed. That was hard for me.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, that was never the intent of the phrase or title in the first place. With Protestants who reason in this non-historical fashion (not knowing what the history of this was), it is always good to clarify: \u201cmother of God\u00a0<i>the Son<\/i>.\u201d This is what the phrase means anyway, and they can\u2019t argue with that logic. It immediately clarifies it and doesn\u2019t allow the misunderstanding to come up at all.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If they deny that she is the mother of\u00a0<b>God<\/b>\u00a0(the Son), then they deny that\u00a0<i>Jesus<\/i>\u00a0is\u00a0<i>God<\/i>, which they don\u2019t want to do.<\/p>\n<p>If, on the other hand, they deny that she is the\u00a0<b>mother<\/b>\u00a0of God (the Son), then they deny the\u00a0<i>Virgin Birth<\/i>, and in effect, also the\u00a0<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Incarnation<\/span>, which they don\u2019t want to do, either.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This resolves the problem altogether. But she is\u00a0<i>not<\/i>\u00a0only the mother of Jesus\u2019\u00a0<i>human nature<\/i>, because motherhood is about giving birth to\u00a0<i>persons<\/i>, not natures (or souls, as in our case, when mothers give birth).<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adoration in the Forest (c. 1459), by \u00a0Filippo Lippi (1406-1469) [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons] (12-11-08) * * * * * A formerly Baptist woman wrote on the Coming Home Network forum: If I called Mary\u00a0God\u2019s mother, I felt I was saying the human being born at a certain time in history (a creature) had [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":5292,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[45,172],"tags":[1619,427,2356,507,681,944],"class_list":["post-5291","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blessed-virgin-mary","category-trinitarianism-christology","tag-annunciation","tag-jesus-christ","tag-mariology","tag-mother-of-god","tag-theotokos","tag-virgin-birth"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;Mother of God&quot;: Quick, Effective, Unanswerable Biblical Proof<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"It&#039;s always good to clarify: &quot;mother of God the Son.&quot; 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