{"id":55517,"date":"2021-03-16T12:31:50","date_gmt":"2021-03-16T16:31:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=55517"},"modified":"2021-03-16T12:31:50","modified_gmt":"2021-03-16T16:31:50","slug":"atheist-blogger-renounces-angry-anti-theist-obsessions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/03\/atheist-blogger-renounces-angry-anti-theist-obsessions.html","title":{"rendered":"Atheist Blogger Renounces Angry Anti-Theist Obsessions"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-55519\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2021\/03\/AngryMan25.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\"><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been noting this phenomenon within atheism for a long time: the \u201cangry atheist\u201d and the obsessions and irrational fanaticism of the anti-theist sub-group of atheism (very prominent online): whose <em>modus operandi<\/em> is to demonize and slander Christians, Christianity, and the Bible 24\/7. Believe me, I know about this firsthand. Right now I\u2019m catching hell in not just one but two threads (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tippling\/2021\/03\/12\/religious-conservatives-arent-really-conservatives\/#disqus_thread\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">one<\/a> \/<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tippling\/2021\/03\/11\/differences-contradictions-and-speculations-of-the-resurrection-listed\/#disqus_thread\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> two<\/a>) on the <em>Tippling Philosopher<\/em> blog (both with over 600 comments), in what I call \u201cfeeding frenzies\u201d: all-out personal attacks and attempted collective destruction of an individual as the biggest scumbag in the history of the world.<\/p>\n<p>Why?: because I dared to disagree with their political obsessions and a piece by a guy who claimed over 100 contradictions in the accounts of Jesus\u2019 Resurrection. And (horror of horrors!) I wouldn\u2019t shut up when I was \u201csupposed\u201d to. Nothing makes the anti-theist, obsessed sort of atheist (which are not all atheists, mind you) more angry than disagreeing or (worse yet) directly <em>refuting<\/em> their fallacious and fact-challenged positions.<\/p>\n<p>I simply block folks on that blog as soon as they attack <em>me<\/em> [not my mere opinions] (so I haven\u2019t even read the vast majority of the attacks against me), and I ban them on my page if they can do nothing but <em>ad hominem<\/em>, manure-slinging, bigotry, and verbal diarrhea. And of course that makes them even <em>more<\/em> angry: madder than hornets, that I have less than no interest in their juvenile attacks, and because I expose them for what they are. I\u2019m an \u201cuppity\u201d Christian and conservative, you see: not knowing my place and when to shut up and be sanctimoniously lectured by my atheist and liberal overlords: all of whom know vastly more about the Bible and Christianity than I do.<\/p>\n<p>So it was refreshing to run across a former blogger on the Patheos Nonreligious forum, Matthew Facciani. I happened to see a post of his, entitled, <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20201229170933\/https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/accordingtomatthew\/2020\/12\/my-final-blog-post-reflections-on-the-atheist-movement\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cMy Final Blog Post: Reflections on the Atheist Movement.\u201d<\/a> Alas, it is no longer online, because he stopped bloging at Patheos, after five years and more than three million page views. But I found an archived copy at Internet Archive. I suspected from the title that he might make some of the same points of criticism I have been making, and sure enough, he <em>did<\/em>. Here are extensive excepts:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I also had my issues with the atheist movement. Specifically, I spent too much time\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20201229170933\/https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/accordingtomatthew\/2017\/08\/claiming-religion-mental-illness-conflicts-psychological-science\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">countering the myth that \u201creligion is a mental illness\u201d<\/a>\u00a0and general ad hominem attacks on theists. Despite meeting plenty of smug atheists, my time in \u201cthe movement\u201d has taught me that atheists can be just as irrational as any other group. I\u2019ve also been vocal about my issues with the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20201229170933\/https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/accordingtomatthew\/2017\/12\/sociologists-begin-study-sexism-found-within-atheist-community\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">sexism<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20201229170933\/https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/accordingtomatthew\/2016\/07\/the-atheist-community-needs-to-do-a-better-job-of-welcoming-people-of-color\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\">racism\u00a0<\/a>in the atheist\/skeptic movement as well. The atheist movement has been dominated by older, white, cishet men. And this large, homogenous section of the movement has had a pretty narrow and stale approach to social issues (while also holding many leadership positions).\u00a0\u00a0After Trump got elected in 2016, I lost a lot of interest in this movement as there seemed to be many more pressing issues than debating theists and petty arguments in the atheist blogosphere. I wasn\u2019t alone in this sentiment as many of my atheist activist friends also moved on to other elements of political &amp; social justice activism.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to being tired of spending so much energy in \u201cthe movement,\u201d I also just became tired of regular blog writing in this particular format. Writing a blog made it very clear which topics become the most popular: current events that evoke negative emotion. A path for writing popular blogs is to write about topics that will galvanize a particular group of people.\u00a0 For atheists and progressives, this usually means sharing the rage inducing things that Trump and other conservatives\/theocrats did. While it\u2019s important to cover these topics, I also find it pretty unfulfilling and emotionally draining. Too much online media encourages anger and sensationalism because of the current click-based incentive structure. I really didn\u2019t want to contribute to that type of rage-click-motivated ecosystem anymore. I\u2019ll refrain from going on too much of a rant about my concerns regarding online media, but I\u2019ll just say that it is unfortunate how strongly ad revenue &amp; clicks drives our information ecosystem.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well-said! I am sad to see Matthew leave Patheos, because he would have continued to be one of the voices for rational sanity in the atheist sector. But I can only dimly imagine (from my own experience as an <em>outside<\/em> critic) the living hell he must have gone through if he attempted to make <em>any<\/em> internal criticisms of the anti-theist atheists.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><strong>Photo credit:\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><a class=\"hover_opacity decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/users\/gregkorg-6944886\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">gregkorg<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(4-21-18)<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/photos\/black-white-gray-man-angry-mad-3527812\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a> \/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/service\/license\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay License<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>:\u00a0Atheist Matthew Facciani. wrote a post, \u201cMy Final Blog Post: Reflections on the Atheist Movement.\u201d He made many of the same points of criticism I have made against the widespread \u201cangry\u201d demeanor of online atheists for over twenty years now.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve been noting this phenomenon within atheism for a long time: the \u201cangry atheist\u201d and the obsessions and irrational fanaticism of the anti-theist sub-group of atheism (very prominent online): whose modus operandi is to demonize and slander Christians, Christianity, and the Bible 24\/7. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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