{"id":59428,"date":"2021-09-03T18:55:24","date_gmt":"2021-09-03T22:55:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=59428"},"modified":"2021-09-04T19:25:10","modified_gmt":"2021-09-04T23:25:10","slug":"hebrews-1012-vulgate-the-mass-james-whites-lie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/09\/hebrews-1012-vulgate-the-mass-james-whites-lie.html","title":{"rendered":"Hebrews 10:12, Vulgate, &#038; the Mass (James White&#8217;s Lie)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-59429\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2021\/09\/WhiteGoofy2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"200\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">This is a reply to an article by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/11\/vs-james-white-9-whites-self-title-of-bishop-i-use-it.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Bishop<\/a>\u00a0\u201cDr.\u201d [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/james-whites-bogus-doctorate-degree-part-ii.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">???<\/a>] James White:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.aomin.org\/aoblog\/roman-catholicism\/a-rarely-discussed-vulgate-reading-and-the-importance-of-the-original-languages-of-the-new-testament-illustrated-with-some-reflections-on-romes-claims-appended-a-truly-puritan-style-title\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Rarely Discussed Vulgate Reading and the Importance of the Original Languages of the New Testament Illustrated, With Some Reflections on Rome\u2019s Claims Appended (A Truly Puritan Style Title)<\/a> (2 June 2003). Back in 2003, Bishop White used to actually write articles, too, rather than simply talk on his podcast all the time (ah, the good ol\u2019 Internet days). \u201cDr.\u201d [???] White is, in my opinion, the most influential, well-known, and able Protestant anti-Catholic apologist \/ sophist \/ polemicist of our time: and certainly the most published and \u201cheard\u201d: through his podcasts and oral debates. His words will be in <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In writing a brief<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aomin.org\/aoblog\/2003\/06\/02\/hebrews-and-the-atonement-of-christ\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">exegetical article on Hebrews 10<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">,<\/span> [Dave: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/sacrifice-of-the-mass-hebrews-8-vs-james-white.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I have responded<\/a> to his similar commentary on Hebrews 8]<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> I encountered a little-discussed mistranslation in the Vulgate text that not only illustrates the importance of studying the primary texts of Scripture (over against a secondary translation) but one which also speaks to the issue of the development of the dogmatic structure of Roman Catholicism over time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The reading is found in Hebrews 10:12, but to get the context from the New American Standard Bible we provide verses 10-14:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Hebrews 10:10-14\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<sup>10\u00a0<\/sup>By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.\u00a0\u00a0<sup>11\u00a0<\/sup>Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;\u00a0\u00a0<sup>12\u00a0<\/sup>but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,\u00a0\u00a0<sup>13\u00a0<\/sup>waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.\u00a0\u00a0<sup>14\u00a0<\/sup>For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">[L]ater, in discussing the issue with some friends, I mentioned the Douay-Rheims translation should be consulted.\u00a0 Its rendering truly illustrates the danger of using a translation of a translation of a translation:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Hebrews 10:12 But this man, offering one sacrifice for sins, for ever sitteth on the right hand of God,<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">What a <strong>horrific misrepresentation of the original intention of the author!<\/strong>\u00a0 And to think this was the \u2018official\u2019 version of the Council of Trent!\u00a0 Not only is the present tense \u2018offering\u2019 completely in error, but to even attempt to make sense out of the sentence <strong>the phrase \u2018for ever,\u2019 which is plainly in the context associated with the offering<\/strong>, is transposed so as to become associated with His being seated on the right hand of God!\u00a0 The entire point of the author, that of contrasting the repeated sacrifices of the old priesthood to the singular, forever offering of Christ, is turned upside down, so that Christ ends up offering (present tense) a sacrifice for sins, just like the old priests!\u00a0 A truly amazing example of one translational error leading to another.<\/span> [my bolding in this paragraph]<\/p>\n<p>The only problem is that the notion of \u201cforever\u201d can indeed be applied to the clause referring to Jesus sitting down at the right hand of God. No less a reputed linguistic authority than Baptist A. T. Robertson (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.studylight.org\/commentaries\/eng\/rwp\/hebrews-10.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Word Pictures in the New Testament<\/em><\/a>) says so:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>When he had offered\u00a0<\/b>(<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03c0\u03c1\u03bf\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd\u03b5\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c2<\/span>). Second aorist active participle (with first aorist ending\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">-\u03b1\u03c2<\/span>\u00a0in place of\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">-\u03bf\u03bd<\/span>) of\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03c0\u03c1\u03bf\u03c3\u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03c9<\/span>, single act in contrast to present participle\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03c0\u03c1\u03bf\u03c3\u03c6\u03b5\u03c1\u03c9\u03bd<\/span>\u00a0above.<\/p>\n<p><b>One sacrifice\u00a0<\/b>(<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03bc\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd \u03b8\u03c5\u03c3\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd<\/span>). This the main point. The one sacrifice does the work that the many failed to do. One wonders how priests who claim that the \u201cmass\u201d is the sacrifice of Christ\u2019s body repeated explain this verse.<\/p>\n<p><b>For ever\u00a0<\/b>(<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03b5\u03b9\u03c2 \u03c4\u03bf \u03b4\u03b9\u03b7\u03bd\u03b5\u03ba\u03b5\u03c2<\/span>). Can be construed either with\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03bc\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd \u03b8\u03c5\u03c3\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd<\/span>\u00a0or with\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03b5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b8\u03b9\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd<\/span>\u00a0(sat down). See\u00a0<span class=\"scriptRef clickable\" lang=\"eng\" style=\"box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; color: #c85335; font-weight: bold; cursor: pointer;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.studylight.org\/study-desk.html?q1=heb+1:3&amp;t1=eng_nas&amp;sr=1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hebrews 1:3<\/a><\/span>\u00a0for\u00a0<span class=\"greek-hebrew\">\u03b5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b8\u03b9\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What White thinks is a <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201chorrific misrepresentation\u201d<\/span> and<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> \u201cplainly . . . associated with the offering\u201d<\/span> Robertson thinks \u201ccan\u201d indeed be properly applied to describing Jesus\u2019 sitting down at the right hand of the Father. White can say he knows Greek, but Robertson is the Greek <em>expert<\/em>\u00a0and scholar, and so any reasonable person would defer to him.<\/p>\n<p>And not only that; we also have the evidence of no less than <strong><em>14 non-Catholic Bible translations<\/em><\/strong>, which apply \u201cforever\u201d or similar concepts in the way that White decries and blasts as a supposed outrage:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Tyndale (1526)<\/strong> . . . sat him doune for ever on the right honde of god<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Bishops\u2019 Bible (1568)<\/span><\/strong>. . . is sit downe for euer on the ryght hande of God:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Geneva Bible (1587) <\/span><\/strong>. . . sitteth for euer at the right hand of God,<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moffatt<\/strong> . . . then seated himself for all time at the right hand of God.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Williams<\/strong> . . . and once for all took His seat at God\u2019s right hand.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Wuest<\/strong> . . . sat down in perpetuity on the right hand of God.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"versiontext\"><strong>Darby<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>. . . at down in perpetuity at [the] right hand of God,<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamsa<\/strong> . . . sat down on the right hand of God for ever.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"versiontext\"><strong>Webster<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span>. . . for ever sat down on the right hand of God;<span class=\"p\"><br>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"versiontext\"><strong>Anderson<\/strong> . . . <\/span>he himself sits continually at the right hand of God,<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Godbey\u00a0<\/span><\/strong>. . . forever sat down on the right hand of God;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Haweis <\/span><\/strong>. . . for ever hath seated himself at the right hand of God;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Mace <\/span><\/strong>. . . sat down on the right hand of God for ever:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span class=\"versiontext\">Worsley\u00a0<\/span><\/strong>. . . is for ever sat down at the right hand of God;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">None of these fourteen are<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201c<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">using a translation of a translation of a translation.<span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201d They worked from Hebrew and Greek texts, and not the Latin Vulgate (which is what Catholic versions, till the last fifty years, did). And they all concluded (agreeing with Robertson\u2019s opinion) that \u201cforever\u201d could be applied as it was in their versions. None have a \u201cCatholic bias.\u201d <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If they do not, and can translate this way, then by analogy so can Catholic versions like Douay-Rheims, without being falsely and absurdly accused by Bishop \u201cDr.\u201d [???] White of offering <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201chorrific\u201d<\/span> renderings of the original, because of Catholic bias (or the original Greek passed through an \u201cintermediate\u201d Latin). Thus, White\u2019s argument collapses.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The supposed \u201cDoctor\u201d then goes on to boilerplate polemics against Catholicism for the rest of his article. I have no interest in that (nor should anyone <em>else<\/em> who is interested in rational and objective, fair-minded argument). I have disposed of the heart and essence of his contention, which is vacant and false.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong> <\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cDon\u2019t stretch the truth, Bishop White!\u201d Photo from the mid- to late-1990s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>Summary<\/em>: Bishop \u201cDr.\u201d [???] James White tries to make a mountain of a molehill: trashing Catholic translations of Hebrews 10:12. I cite a Baptist linguist &amp; 14 non-Catholic translations against him.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a reply to an article by\u00a0Bishop\u00a0\u201cDr.\u201d [???] James White:\u00a0A Rarely Discussed Vulgate Reading and the Importance of the Original Languages of the New Testament Illustrated, With Some Reflections on Rome\u2019s Claims Appended (A Truly Puritan Style Title) (2 June 2003). 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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